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Big snow melt coming - danger of flooding

Thaw to start 15.Feb.2006, and again 10.Mar.2006

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Editor Bob
After weeks of heavy snow falls, some of which have caused roofs across Bavaria to collapse, the big thaw is predicted to start mid-February.

The ground remains frozen in many places though, so this means the melt-water can't be absorbed and instead flows away and swells the rivers. We could see floods coming in the next few days.

Keep an eye on the Bavarian flood water information service for updates, Hochwassernachrichtendienst, and if the floods do arrive maybe we should all take refuge in The Arc.



Last time we had flooding in Munich was in the summer. See previous TT topics: July floods, August floods, and flood photos.

See also: Yahoo! weather forecast for Munich

Related info in German: br-online.de / schneechaos
byrdbrain
If I'm due for a flood, the last place I want to be is underground. Remember the almost Venetian conditions in defunct O'Reilly's?
Jeeves
QUOTE (Editor Bob @ Feb 13 2006, 12:20 pm) *
if the floods do arrive maybe we should all take refuge in The Arc

In a cellar on the Isar flood plain? Hmmm.
UrbanAngel
It's due to rain as of Wednesday for the next 7 days at least as well!
byrdbrain
Let's all move to dugouts, the rain-soaked snow will lead to mass roof-collapsing. Hmm, landslides and avalanches, too. Dugout not such a good idea after all. Treehouse?
MonksTown
QUOTE (byrdbrain @ Feb 13 2006, 12:31 pm) *
Remember the almost Venetian conditions in defunct O'Reilly's?

That was a water feature!

Though the lasses who gave blowjobs at the far end of the bar where they couldn't be seen looked a bit damp and dishevelled on occasion! wink.gif
grazzenger
noah's..., oh never mind. it's monday morning, perhaps a wee bit too early for some smile.gif
Daisy
Flooding everywhere these days! At least the past year or two.
darn that global warming! mad.gif
Darkknight
Wonder if it will be as bad or worse than the last floods Munich Had.. (The Great Flood of 2005) Pix in the Gallery..
arshoo
friggin hell just when we are to go up the igloo's mad.gif , wanted to snowboard not surf, shall monitor the flow of events
Beg Tets
QUOTE (Daisy @ Feb 13 2006, 1:07 pm) *
Flooding everywhere these days! At least the past year or two.
darn that global warming!

nope, not global warming, housing developers getting permission to build on flood plains that they were denied in the past, thereby affecting more people, thereby becoming more of a media issue.
robbieinmunich
Hey i really feel for these folks but i really think for a country where you pay LUFT TAX when a sign sticks out onto the street from a cafe or the likes you'd think that they would have this flood issue sorted out!
grazzenger
arshoo, i think you'll be ok in the mountains even if the freezing level rises to around 1500m as predicted but 3 german weather sites reckon from wednesday onwards it could get unseasonally warm down here in the flatlands.

although i liked freising, our cellar had a propensity to flood (as we lived slap-bang next to the small river that ran through the middle of town). so the highlands of erding now seem appealing!!

i found the hochwassernachrichtendienst very interesting during the last flood particularily comparing the highest flow through munich/freising and that through passau. the donau must have been an incredible sight just downstream of the 3 rivers' confluence.
pootle
This is the picture from our tramstop this morning. Its hard to see the tramlines under the water. Tram driver has being really careful and crawled so slowly through this...

UrbanAngel
The puddles are getting larger and deeper where I live too; having to find alternative paths to walk on.
DDBug
Had to take take a detour to kindergarden this morning - halfway down the path in the park was about a foot deep under water - and no way of getting around it.
Anyone know where to buy rain boots cheap ??
don_riina
QUOTE
Anyone know where to buy rain boots cheap ??

Aldi - but they only sell them in August or something. You have to think like a krout, and buy when Aldi have stock, not when you actually need it.

I've just been out stumbling about the fields for the last hour or so, and its bloody horrible. Quite simply put, it was like a marshland. More like ponds than puddles, separated by landmass like reefs of ice. So you can go through the water, and get wet, or take your chances slipping on the ice. mad.gif
DDBug
Sounds just like the park I have to walk through or all the way around.
With a 5-year old who wants to walk through every single puddle. sad.gif
byrdbrain
Can any of you science freaks out there explain the affinity between a nice crisp morning newspaper and the deepest puddle in a 100-m-radius? Works every time.
Grinner
I am sure they can explain, but having just been called a freak... I am not sure they will. unsure.gif
Persius
Murphy's law.
It's been scientifically proven
kitkat64
My whole yard was a puddle pond today. I looked out this morning and was thinking 'well, at least our underground tanks will be full when we need to flush the toilet!!'
Kay
Watch out for the ice from above as well - earlier today I almost got hit by a big chunk of ice that fell off a roof and landed just in front of me.
byrdbrain
QUOTE (Grinner @ Feb 16 2006, 11:00 am) *
I am sure they can explain, but having just been called a freak... I am not sure they will.

Freak is a term of endearment for somebody who is highly informed and specialized regarding a certain field. If I wanted to insult them I would use the standard "bozo".

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
freak
9 entries found for freak.
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freak[1,noun]freak[2,adjective]freak[3,verb]freak[4,transitive verb]freak of naturefreak-outfreak showspeed freakcontrol freak

Main Entry: 1freak
Pronunciation: 'frEk
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
1 a : a sudden and odd or seemingly pointless idea or turn of the mind b : a seemingly capricious action or event
2 archaic : a whimsical quality or disposition
3 : one that is markedly unusual or abnormal: as a : a person or animal with a physical oddity who appears in a circus sideshow b slang (1) : a sexual deviate (2) : a person who uses an illicit drug c : HIPPIE d : an atypical postage stamp usually caused by a unique defect in paper (as a crease) or a unique event in the manufacturing process (as a speck of dirt on the plate) that does not produce a constant or systematic effect
4 : an ardent enthusiast <film freaks>
kathie
And having avoided falling over on the masses of snow and ice that have covered the pavements on the way to the S-Bahn for the last 3 months, I managed to slip and fall in a huge puddle of slush on the way to work this morning mad.gif
Grinner
I have seen the city workers collecting snow from the side of the roads and transporting it to one of the overflow carparks at the Messegelande..

Oh well.
perdido
I came into Munich today from Regensburg and the country side creeks are already flooded. You can also see large batches of ice along the banks starting to melt very fast. I usually take this trip twice a week and for the last three months there have been a lot of places to ice skate. Well those large frozen patches of water are thawing also. If there is any sudden increases in warmth(along with the expected rain) then it should flood even more quickly. It rained really heavy here(Regensburg) this morning and there is a slight swell in the Danube.
Small Town Boy
QUOTE (Editor Bob @ Feb 13 2006, 12:20 pm) *
The ground remains frozen in many places though, so this means the melt-water can't be absorbed and instead flows away and swells the rivers. We could see floods coming in the next few days.

That risk of flooding turned out to be rather a damp squib.

To be fair, river levels in the north of Bavaria were running high.


Isar in Munich. From Hochwassernachrichtendienst Bayern
garibaldi
QUOTE (DDBug @ Feb 16 2006, 9:48 am) *
Had to take take a detour to kindergarden this morning - halfway down the path in the park was about a foot deep under water - and no way of getting around it.
Anyone know where to buy rain boots cheap ??

There's a sale on in Brown Thomas this week. Wellies €19,95. all sizes.
cool.gif
Small Town Boy
The thaw in the northern part of Bavaria is well and truly underway; the graphic below shows the water levels of the Danube in Donauwörth. The Isar, though, has hardly risen at all, since the snow melts much more slowly in the alps.

Hazza
I reckon we'll be alright in Munich.

From the looks of it, more than half the snow has melted already and apart from a lot of offensive puddles (particularly where you want to cross the road), it's not too bad...
Small Town Boy
Although of course the water level of the Isar in Munich is determined by the rate of melting in the Alps. Howver, the snow normally melts at a fairly consistent rate, so spring flooding is the exception rather than the rule.
Kay
It's rain snowing again... rolleyes.gif
Kay
But it didn't last very long... dry.gif
Small Town Boy
Hmm, sunshine... then a shower... then sunshine again... it must be... SPRING!

But then wetter.com says snow overnight.
Yeti
Marshbot is posting about diving lessons. She may know more than she is letting on.
pootle
As I went across the Isar earlier, its looked very high and wet.



34 cms to warning level 1. Not seeing many pebbles with water across the full width...
Grinner
I drove past the Isar this afternoon, down near Talkirchen..It was rather flooded there!
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