Mohammad cartoon on the TT front page

I just fail to see why the cartoon showing Mohammed with a bomb in his turban is there on the TT front page.

Is there some link between the cartoons and TT?

I would say desensitization to the rioters. If they realise that they can not control the free press around the world, they may start trying to do something more productive for their cause. I am certain there are islamic people and Danish people here on Toytown who are effected by this news. It is probably a poor choice for choosing the one with the bomb in the turban, but I assume that is the one which has caused the problem.

It's probably a moderator.

well, I'd be very surprised if it weren't
it might perhaps even have been posted by Mr GG himself

waht a picture of pootle with a bomb on his head? i thought it was a bob? or does the missing "m" mean mohammed? as to should we shouldnt we? not my call. i did actualy find the virgins one funny. the turban/bomb one is a political statement. good taste bad taste? i'd rather people made their statements with pen and paper than bomb and blood.

I think the question was, why on the home page? I presume it's a statement that we allow freedom of speech on TT? Hmm.

Bad taste IMHO and insulting to Islam, which considers it a taboo to create images of the prophet's face.
Would you publish similarly insulting Nazi style cartoons about Jews on the front page?
Personally I think it should be removed.

But we don't allow Freedom of Speech on TT, that's the point, innit...

I also find it insulting... but that is my opinion. I am not a religious person, but I don't like making fun or cartoons of religions, as that is holy to those that belive.

does freedom of speach include mean that you HAVE to insult people and belittle their beliefs?

I think not.

edit: having said that I don't believe the press in the islamic world acts any differently when portaying judaism, so i suppose what's good for the goose etc.

Frankly I think this entire site is insulting to Islam and should be removed. It's also insulting to Catholics, Buddhists, Jehovahs Witnesses, Irish, Americans, Australians, Chinese, and those people who live in the mountains of Tibet... what are they, Nepalese?

Ban em all I say. Shut the whole thing down. Off with their heads.

Hence my "Hmm", Topsy.


Me neither. But it's a question of where you draw the line.
Edit: As GG implies.

Get rid of the cartoon, it has nothing to do with this website.

I think the one that says "We have run out of virgins" would be more appropriate.

We on this forum are nothing but part of a little experiment on social behaviour.

I could care less one way or the other, but the longer this thread grows the more appropriate it becomes.

I believe this is the true reason for it. The mods are sitting back and having a good laff. Their prerogative

it should be rotated out with caracatures of jews, hindis, buddhist, christians, pegans, etc. just like the advertisements are rotated.

I agree.

this cartoon makes fun of my religion, beliefs and fellow celts. I want it banned! I am going to start rioting outside every bookshop that sells them!

Of course, that is the benefit of having our freedoms, to express our personal beliefs.

In fact, you have just insulted my freedoms by telling me that I cannot insult people and belittle their beliefs.

Thank you very much, I hope you have a nice day ... me no, it's ruined!

Well, according to last year's "Are you religious?" poll there's only one moslem on TT.
And we've already established many times that there's no such thing as freedom of speech on TT.
So I'm still struggling to see why it's on our front page.

It's good for business (draws attention) and has entertaining value for the people who placed it there.

i can't actually see it on the home-page. Has it been removed already?

It's still there

Since, we wouldn't under any circumstance want to offend a muslim, I've come up with a list of changes TT should implement immediately to ensure we don't offend any of our Islamic friends.

1. Delete all the accounts of women - We cannot be sure that the women will be participating with the permission of their husbands, so no more female members.
2. Delete the Adult Chat
3. Circumcision for all male TT "members"
4. No more alcohol at TT events
5. Women must cover their heads at TT events - Just to be sure.
6. Just to be safe, no Jews until they give back Palestine to the Palestinians

I guess there must be more, but this is after all a process. We'll learn together how not to offend anyone ever again.

It's on the far left of the home page in the blue part.
A head of a man with a beard and a bomb on his head. It is quite small.

NO eating beef to avoid offending Hindus

And no pork, hmm it will be tricky to eat in Munich. Well, I guess there will just have to be a vegetarian only policy so nobody's offended.

initiate historian mode


The Nepalese live in Nepal (next to Tibet). The ones that live in Tibet are Tibetans (with the addition of Chinese since China took over Tibet in 1950)

end dry history/geography lesson

Dammit, and I thought they were Neapolitans. Anyway, the Neapolitans offend me and ought to be destroyed. Along with their sherpa mountain goats or whatever the hell they are.

Also, Iceberg Slim has a pink button-down shirt that I find particularly offensive. I think it ought to be burned in a pit along with all the pikeys.

Agreed - why can't they accept that deep pan is the way forward? Bastards.

Can't you put this picture on the front instead?
Also topical (and although not very Koran-safe, it is however easier on the eye).

you know, the thing is that there are a lot of people who actually think that way, that's the sad thing

most of whom you seem intent on appeasing.

I am for removing it as well, but only because Islam forbids any picture of Mohammed. Respect is the first step towards understanding. Sounds unctious, so what.

Oh, I thought you were joking, IS - were you seriously suggesting that we should do all those things to pander to muslims, then?
Have you actually met many muslims? Of those, are there any that genuinely think that way?

politicaly correct mode

take over sounds so nice. the brutaly invaded the country destroyed its culture imprisoned and killed its monks and has disapeared fom the map as an independant country
end of google.com mode google.cn is somewhat different

Personally, I'm offended by all those who pander to religious extremists that use violence to express their viewpoints.

Slim's pink shirt really is worse than violent religious extremism, though, so it ought to be taken care of first. Or maybe I just want to see him without his shirt on.

This thread needs more Memo and don_riina...

This is not about respect. It is whether you believe the same as the religion. Mohammed was a real person, to draw him is not disrespectful, to draw him while believeing in the tenets of the Isalmic faith may be, but not for a person who is not Islamic. And this statement should go both directions. The idea that another culture believes and acts differently than you do or may not think it is false idoltry by printing a cartoon. o me this has distorted the whole intent of forbidding images of Big Mo from being made. They have idolized him by forbidding him to be drawn.

?!?!??!?!

Respect!??!? Understanding!??!?

There is fucking NOTHING to respect, and nothing to be "understood". Worse than pikeys

I was joking Topsy. Perhaps I didn't read well-enough what you wrote.

But the same people who are rioting and burning embassies in the middle east would have us converted or destroyed. Appeasement of the extremist element of Islam is a path to nowhere good. They would have us implement a theocratic society everywhere but starting in their own backyard.

We are spiralling quickly towards a full-on confrontation of ideologies. I shudder to think what the outcome will be. On the other hand, I refuse to relinquish the freedoms won over centuries of struggle against religion and ruling elite to appease a foreign religion and ruling elite.

I don't think Islam-baiting is right. But I also don't think we should limit the speech of even the most tasteless of publications in order to appease Islam. Liberty is an all-or-nothing state of affairs. You cannot be partially free.

Wrong. See my post on the other thread.

It sounds tedious and hackneyed and feel-goody and it's utter bullshit. I have no resppect for those who show me none. I'm fighting the urge to make a comment about the appropriateness of the new nick.

Edit: Holy shit! Will don_riina explode now that he's in agreement with this mutt?

woof.

So am I, absolutely.
But I am also against tarring the vast majority of muslims with the same brush as the minority nutjobs.
*sigh*

But Topsy, it's the "minority nutjobs" who are causing such a fuss over the cartoon to begin with. Censoring the cartoon only makes their overreaction an effective solution to the problem.

AAAAAGGGGH. STOP IT!! Minority my fucking aching arse.

That's a bit excessive isn't it GG? I mean, you get Vanilla, Strawberry AND Chocolate ice cream in one handy tub. Why not just throw away the flavour you do not like and eat the others?

And Topsy. Yes. IS is totally serious. He is, in fact, starting up a "doing all those things he said to pander to muslims" Clique. You can sign up under www.icebergslim.com/muslimsarewellcoolandgreat

Diversity offends me. And only gay people eat strawberry ice cream.

It IS a mi-fucking-nority.
How many flippin muslims live in Germany, ffs, and how many have been out on the street rioting?
How many in the UK? How many in Denmark?
Islam is the second biggest religion in Denmark (according to the link posted by canaryman), but there haven't been any riots there, have there?