Does anyone have any experience importing cars to Germany?
The last time I was in the US, it really struck me how much cheaper the cars were, especially when you consider the current exchange rate.
Anyone know what it costs to import one? I suppose there is also the hassel of making sure that the car conforms to German/European standards, going through customs etc.
Could it be worth it?
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Ketchup, absolutely BUT it will be cheaper to keep it registered in the US. This you can do if you can claim another residence there. Cars also have to be more than 6 months old and (maybe 'or' can't recall) have more than about 6000km to escape import duty.
I'll be shipping a car over in a few months; costs range from $1000-$2000 depending on whether you want to drop-off/pick-up on the water or have it go door to door.
I'll be shipping a car over in a few months; costs range from $1000-$2000 depending on whether you want to drop-off/pick-up on the water or have it go door to door.
@DW - if you're picking up, I'll go with you to keep you company and provide that much needed spare driver in case you feel tired driving it back into town. And no, I'm serious mate...
what a suck-up jimbo!
DW, no, I'll go with you and make sure, as your much needed spare driver, that you don't get tired on the way back into town. i can think of a few activities to keep you awake
DW, no, I'll go with you and make sure, as your much needed spare driver, that you don't get tired on the way back into town. i can think of a few activities to keep you awake
But isn't there some rule that you must register your car here after 6 mos. or so?
I am most worried about conforming to EU standards. I think that could be tricky for a sports car (haven't bought one but would like to).
@DW
I think you better ask Jimbo if he knows how to drive on the right...
@Elfenstar
I am most worried about conforming to EU standards. I think that could be tricky for a sports car (haven't bought one but would like to).
@DW
I think you better ask Jimbo if he knows how to drive on the right...
@Elfenstar
Exporting
From what I understand. You can buy a car here in Germany and pay the German Tax. If you export it before 6 months, you get a refund of the German tax and then have to pay the tax of the country you are importing to (17.5% for UK) plus any other import duties. If you wait the full 6 months, you only pay the German tax and any import duties.
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As for importing a car from somewhere else, its not difficult. My friend recently bought a car in the UK and brought it straight over here, only change he had to make in the specification was changing the headlights. I never asked him about the tax though, so not to sure on that front.
My Uncle is in the business of importing bikes from the US to the UK and when he does this he simply hires a shipping crate, I think it costs him around $500 for the crate, then he has the import duties on top of that. Although, that is to the UK and not Germany so I am sure the costs will be different.
From what I understand. You can buy a car here in Germany and pay the German Tax. If you export it before 6 months, you get a refund of the German tax and then have to pay the tax of the country you are importing to (17.5% for UK) plus any other import duties. If you wait the full 6 months, you only pay the German tax and any import duties.
Importing
As for importing a car from somewhere else, its not difficult. My friend recently bought a car in the UK and brought it straight over here, only change he had to make in the specification was changing the headlights. I never asked him about the tax though, so not to sure on that front.
My Uncle is in the business of importing bikes from the US to the UK and when he does this he simply hires a shipping crate, I think it costs him around $500 for the crate, then he has the import duties on top of that. Although, that is to the UK and not Germany so I am sure the costs will be different.
@Ketchup - European approval of American models may be tough - what did you have in mind? You might be best off importing a Japanese or European model if the TüV bothers you - specifically European models. I would be hugely tempted by a Z4, Boxster, or TT. Japanese cars will need a little work, but not much. Interestingly I read in an English car magazine that lots of Germans are now importing German cars from the US as it's cheaper than buying them at home - big expensive stuff is quite a bit cheaper in the US (now there's a surprise).
And of course I can drive on the right - I can drive upside down if the car's a '67 Mustang.
And of course I can drive on the right - I can drive upside down if the car's a '67 Mustang.
@ jimbo & elf
HAH! Here's a teaser:
[img]http://www.ghma.on.ca/images/album_img/1967/238.jpg[/img]
but medium-blue metallic. It was just painted this weekend and I hope to have pics in a few days!
You know, it will fit 4. Not comfortably by any means but it will.
HAH! Here's a teaser:
[img]http://www.ghma.on.ca/images/album_img/1967/238.jpg[/img]
but medium-blue metallic. It was just painted this weekend and I hope to have pics in a few days!
You know, it will fit 4. Not comfortably by any means but it will.
Beautiful mate, utterly beautiful. Can't wait to buy me that Boxster S and take you on at the lights...
I thought you had to pass an test after 6 months, and that implied your car met the pollution standards here - catalytic converters, unleaded petrol and the like.
http://www.radlhammer.com/car.htm
Sounds like a painful process to me.
http://www.radlhammer.com/car.htm
Sounds like a painful process to me.
@Jimbo
Was thinking along the lines of a 350Z...
350Z
You can get it for almost $10k cheaper in the U.S. at today's exchange rate!
Boxster S would be nice too but a bit pricy...
Was thinking along the lines of a 350Z...
350Z
You can get it for almost $10k cheaper in the U.S. at today's exchange rate!
Boxster S would be nice too but a bit pricy...
Danger Will Robonson!!!
I am new to Toytown Munich and it's pretty funny this was the first message I saw, you are in luck.
My wife and I recently imported an 2002 Ford focus, just like the german ones, to germany with the idea that it is easy to do the work, just a few modifications and we're on the road, boy were we wrong. Here is the low down...
Tax and customs...
we brought the car as a whole shipment containing household goods and our car therefore we did not pay customs or tax because my wife is a german and resided out of germany for a year, some weird law there, without that you will pay the 16% MWS and customs. we can't sell our car for a year or we have to also pay customs and tax...sorry, but you have to research that a little further.
T.U.V...the enemy
We did as much research as possiable before we shipped the car, and concluded that it was worth the money, but we ran into a problem...to register the car, it needs the local TUV test, american cars do not fare well here. SOME cars specs are in the TUV mainframe, making it easier to import because you as the owner do not have to provide the information, which is impossable to get anyway. We were told by the offical TUV guy in Garching that our car needed small modifications like we expected, but also...
Emissions...not just how much your car spits out, but what exactly is in the exhaust...cost...1600€...in Ingolstat
Noise...how much noise your car makes at 50 and 100 kph...cost...300-400€
Brake skid test...how far and how long you need from 150 kph to standing still...cost...over400€
This information was not in the mainframe for the TUV so we had to provide the information.
So we cant sell the car, we can't use the car...but there is a solution...
www.tuev24.de
we arranged with the ONLY company in germany who specializes in ami cars. they did all of the modifications, paperwork and TUV in one day for a pretty chunk of change. i highly recommend this company and suggest you do this before you even think of what car you would like to bring.
a good shipping company is Navtrans (it's in the phonebook, good english)
thay work hand and hand with tuev24 in shipping.
now we drive our car legally and totally germanized!
there is a lot more, so do the homework...good luck
I am new to Toytown Munich and it's pretty funny this was the first message I saw, you are in luck.
My wife and I recently imported an 2002 Ford focus, just like the german ones, to germany with the idea that it is easy to do the work, just a few modifications and we're on the road, boy were we wrong. Here is the low down...
Tax and customs...
we brought the car as a whole shipment containing household goods and our car therefore we did not pay customs or tax because my wife is a german and resided out of germany for a year, some weird law there, without that you will pay the 16% MWS and customs. we can't sell our car for a year or we have to also pay customs and tax...sorry, but you have to research that a little further.
T.U.V...the enemy
We did as much research as possiable before we shipped the car, and concluded that it was worth the money, but we ran into a problem...to register the car, it needs the local TUV test, american cars do not fare well here. SOME cars specs are in the TUV mainframe, making it easier to import because you as the owner do not have to provide the information, which is impossable to get anyway. We were told by the offical TUV guy in Garching that our car needed small modifications like we expected, but also...
Emissions...not just how much your car spits out, but what exactly is in the exhaust...cost...1600€...in Ingolstat
Noise...how much noise your car makes at 50 and 100 kph...cost...300-400€
Brake skid test...how far and how long you need from 150 kph to standing still...cost...over400€
This information was not in the mainframe for the TUV so we had to provide the information.
So we cant sell the car, we can't use the car...but there is a solution...
www.tuev24.de
we arranged with the ONLY company in germany who specializes in ami cars. they did all of the modifications, paperwork and TUV in one day for a pretty chunk of change. i highly recommend this company and suggest you do this before you even think of what car you would like to bring.
a good shipping company is Navtrans (it's in the phonebook, good english)
thay work hand and hand with tuev24 in shipping.
now we drive our car legally and totally germanized!
there is a lot more, so do the homework...good luck
Ketchup
350Z, VERY NICE. They're right about stuff like specific headlight, etc. but for the most part very few mods will have to be made. I *think* you might need a kph speedo but any Nissan dealer in Germany can swap it out for you for a few hundred E (may still be worth it depending on how much cheaper it is there.
Still, if you can a claim US residence, you are exempt from everything. Geico will even insure your US-spec car overseas.
350Z, VERY NICE. They're right about stuff like specific headlight, etc. but for the most part very few mods will have to be made. I *think* you might need a kph speedo but any Nissan dealer in Germany can swap it out for you for a few hundred E (may still be worth it depending on how much cheaper it is there.
Still, if you can a claim US residence, you are exempt from everything. Geico will even insure your US-spec car overseas.
oh, aaron. am drooling. guess it'll be a fun road trip
but seriously, got this info for you and you can import your car if you had owned it for 6 months, and you are not allowed to sell it for 12 months after it has arrived in germany.
the site also gives you info on what needs to be done to your car to be able to drive it here. of course they charge a fee to estimate: TUV USA.
but seriously, got this info for you and you can import your car if you had owned it for 6 months, and you are not allowed to sell it for 12 months after it has arrived in germany.
the site also gives you info on what needs to be done to your car to be able to drive it here. of course they charge a fee to estimate: TUV USA.
I'm hugely surprised to hear that the Ford Focus wasn't on the computers - was anything special about it? I assume that the USA still uses the Zetec engine? Or was it something a little more unusual that never made it to these shores???
As for the choice of car, Drew - 350Z - good call my man, good call. Also check out the Mazda RX8 (worse emissions probably as it's a wankel engine). Both are real beauties though. Chrysler Crossfire is also not too bad if you prefer to cruise and pose.
Can I also take this opportunity to offer to passenger in any of the cars that you guys import - you both have impeccable taste, for which I commend you (never thought I would say that to an American, let alone TWO Americans).
As for the choice of car, Drew - 350Z - good call my man, good call. Also check out the Mazda RX8 (worse emissions probably as it's a wankel engine). Both are real beauties though. Chrysler Crossfire is also not too bad if you prefer to cruise and pose.
Can I also take this opportunity to offer to passenger in any of the cars that you guys import - you both have impeccable taste, for which I commend you (never thought I would say that to an American, let alone TWO Americans).
Hey all,
cool finally Car-talk. I´d go for the RX-8. That car is so amazingly beautiful.
Other interesting car in that range is the Golf (V) Gti, (thats if you dont give a hoot about the stereotypes associated witht hat car).New SLK is also cool but everybody knows that in less than a heartbeat you will see fleets of them parked down Schwabing, so its not too orginal.I like the Nissan 350 Z but Im affraid, seeing its a french design, that in a couple of years people will start saying, "What the hell were they thinking? " Also, seeing Im a big fan, keep a lookout for the new S3.
max
cool finally Car-talk. I´d go for the RX-8. That car is so amazingly beautiful.
Other interesting car in that range is the Golf (V) Gti, (thats if you dont give a hoot about the stereotypes associated witht hat car).New SLK is also cool but everybody knows that in less than a heartbeat you will see fleets of them parked down Schwabing, so its not too orginal.I like the Nissan 350 Z but Im affraid, seeing its a french design, that in a couple of years people will start saying, "What the hell were they thinking? " Also, seeing Im a big fan, keep a lookout for the new S3.
max
I really like the RX-8 as well although in all the reviews I have read comparing the RX-8 to the 350Z, the 350Z came out on top. The 350Z also has more horsepower and is faster. I also really like the looks of it regardless of whether or not it's a French design!
I like the new SLK too although many in Germany consider it to be a woman's car. There is a huge two page ad for it in the latest GALA (only thing they had in the doctor's office) if that's any indication. It's certainly debatable but I think Mercedes is too expensive for what you get anyway.
I would NEVER EVER buy a Golf V. BORING!!! I don't doubt that it's technically a great car but I think the Golf IV looks better. Why would you pay that kind of money when you could buy something better looking. I would probably go for a Lexus or a Mazda 6.
I like the new SLK too although many in Germany consider it to be a woman's car. There is a huge two page ad for it in the latest GALA (only thing they had in the doctor's office) if that's any indication. It's certainly debatable but I think Mercedes is too expensive for what you get anyway.
I would NEVER EVER buy a Golf V. BORING!!! I don't doubt that it's technically a great car but I think the Golf IV looks better. Why would you pay that kind of money when you could buy something better looking. I would probably go for a Lexus or a Mazda 6.
I wasn't aware that the 350Z was a French design - the bloke who styled it is English and works in the Nissan design studio in California. Though if it's the underpinnings that are French, well, that's understandable since Renault own Nissan these days.
The 350Z is certainly more powerful, but EVO (and English magazine) rated the RX-8 very highly because of the handling balance...and apparently as the engines loosen up you gain speed...
Golf Mk.V GTi, looks like it will be a great GTi, but the RX8 and 350Z will blow it off the roads for speed and style. Merc SLK - it's a cabrio - what more can I say - in weather like this I would want that above all else (except maybe the 350Z cabrio).
As for the S3 - dunno when that will appear, but it will be bloody fast.
The 350Z is certainly more powerful, but EVO (and English magazine) rated the RX-8 very highly because of the handling balance...and apparently as the engines loosen up you gain speed...
Golf Mk.V GTi, looks like it will be a great GTi, but the RX8 and 350Z will blow it off the roads for speed and style. Merc SLK - it's a cabrio - what more can I say - in weather like this I would want that above all else (except maybe the 350Z cabrio).
As for the S3 - dunno when that will appear, but it will be bloody fast.
hey Ketchup,
Dont get me wrong I love the 350z. Plus I love the way it somehow recalls the classic Datsun Z series (Paul Newman's car).However if you look at when the Nissan 300 Z came out, in the early 90', its design was such that it looks pretty cool even by todays standards. Can the 350z's desgin be equally longlasting? No doubt, the 350Z looks awesome and outperforms the RX-8. (Although the sound of the Wankel is really something.) The fact is french designs look really cool initially, but tend to sag and look weird quite a lot after even short periods of time, unlike some really cool american deisgns that seem to never fade, regardless of their age. Not just the instant classic american dream cars ie. Vettes and 60-70's muscle cars, but some recent designs as well, i.e. Dodge Stealth, 90's Mustang etc...
About the Golf V gti...does this look boring?
Dont get me wrong I love the 350z. Plus I love the way it somehow recalls the classic Datsun Z series (Paul Newman's car).However if you look at when the Nissan 300 Z came out, in the early 90', its design was such that it looks pretty cool even by todays standards. Can the 350z's desgin be equally longlasting? No doubt, the 350Z looks awesome and outperforms the RX-8. (Although the sound of the Wankel is really something.) The fact is french designs look really cool initially, but tend to sag and look weird quite a lot after even short periods of time, unlike some really cool american deisgns that seem to never fade, regardless of their age. Not just the instant classic american dream cars ie. Vettes and 60-70's muscle cars, but some recent designs as well, i.e. Dodge Stealth, 90's Mustang etc...
About the Golf V gti...does this look boring?
No, it certainly doesn't look boring. My comment was more a general comment about the Golf V. VW didn't change the Golf much and still except people to trade-up which many will. Anyway, without having any definite figures, I would bet that the price of the GTI in the picture is comparable to the price of an RX-8. Don't know how anyone could really justify a GTI instead of an RX-8 though.
I think I am going to have to test drive an RX-8 and a 350Z to see which I prefer. I've sat in a new RX-8 and it is very impressive although I fail to see how two normal size people could fit, as advertised, in the back. No matter though, I wouldn't buy one to haul people around in anyway!
As for the 350Z's looks, it's hard to say if they'll stand the test of time but I'd be willing to bet that in 10 years, you'd still say it looks cool!
I think I am going to have to test drive an RX-8 and a 350Z to see which I prefer. I've sat in a new RX-8 and it is very impressive although I fail to see how two normal size people could fit, as advertised, in the back. No matter though, I wouldn't buy one to haul people around in anyway!
As for the 350Z's looks, it's hard to say if they'll stand the test of time but I'd be willing to bet that in 10 years, you'd still say it looks cool!
If you get the 350Z remember to get the Rays alloy wheels, and get it in black - they look cool as fcuk in black IMHO.
Hey Ketchup,
no doubt. RX-8 is another world comapred to the Gti. Blows it away in everything and as you said the Gti will probably end up costing about the same if not more than an Rx-8, so there's no contest there.
With the 350z I kinda get the feeling that its designed will be changed quite frequently to keep it "avant-garde", but only time will tell, and thats just my impression anyway. If only they could keep the designs as orignal as say a Honda NSX. that thing looks the same, more or less, as it did 10+ years ago and still looks cool, and is still sold.pity it costs so damn much.
The Honda s2000 is also a pretty mean car, just a shame they didnt integrate a vario top like on the merc.
no doubt. RX-8 is another world comapred to the Gti. Blows it away in everything and as you said the Gti will probably end up costing about the same if not more than an Rx-8, so there's no contest there.
With the 350z I kinda get the feeling that its designed will be changed quite frequently to keep it "avant-garde", but only time will tell, and thats just my impression anyway. If only they could keep the designs as orignal as say a Honda NSX. that thing looks the same, more or less, as it did 10+ years ago and still looks cool, and is still sold.pity it costs so damn much.
The Honda s2000 is also a pretty mean car, just a shame they didnt integrate a vario top like on the merc.
@Jimbo
Wouldn't think of leaving out the alloy wheels. Those make or break the whole car in my opinion. Sort of like showing up in a new custom tailored 1000 EUR suit and forgetting to get a haircut. I'm also partial to black although I have to admit I like the blue as well. I like red too but I used to have a 240SX in red so i'd like to change. Loved the 240SX although it really wasn't technically a sports car.
@maddul
Love the NSX. It is indeed a pity that it's so expensive. Collegues at work are trying to talk me into a Boxster. Their arguement is that even though it's more expensive, it holds its value better. A Boxster would have to be used though because I wouldn't want to (or be able to) shell out the dough for a new one. Then they tried to convince me that a 911 would hold it's value EVEN MORE. It never ends!
Wouldn't think of leaving out the alloy wheels. Those make or break the whole car in my opinion. Sort of like showing up in a new custom tailored 1000 EUR suit and forgetting to get a haircut. I'm also partial to black although I have to admit I like the blue as well. I like red too but I used to have a 240SX in red so i'd like to change. Loved the 240SX although it really wasn't technically a sports car.
@maddul
Love the NSX. It is indeed a pity that it's so expensive. Collegues at work are trying to talk me into a Boxster. Their arguement is that even though it's more expensive, it holds its value better. A Boxster would have to be used though because I wouldn't want to (or be able to) shell out the dough for a new one. Then they tried to convince me that a 911 would hold it's value EVEN MORE. It never ends!
Boxster S mate. It is the future. Black, maybe silver, top down, Leopoldstrasse, Playboy model in the pasenger seat... Now we are talking mate. Hop over to Italy for a weekend - hit 160mph on the Autobahn...arrive, pick flies from your teeth and make love to the playboy model sitting next to you hiding under the mess of wind blown blonde hair... Motoring does not get any better than that. And yeah - forgot the Honda S2000 - pretty rapid but of kit that.
Hey Ketchup,
Wow, the Boxster is a fine car and if you shop arround you are bound to find some pretty good deals. On the fact that it holds allot of its value I wouldnt be so sure. Depreciation is about the same as an Slk or Z3/ Z4. Actually, supprisingly in Italy, (just as an example) , the boxster depreciates even more than the Slk, given that there is such a high demand for used Slks. But its probably just a specific case. Still though its a much better investment (if you can consider a car an investment??!?) than say a TT.
I however would probably go for a new 350z / RX-8 over a used Boxster. Probably get shit-all of what you paid for it in 5 years time but thats just the market...cant do much about that.
911? Well now we are in a completely different class. Totally out of my league.
Why then not one of the finest of all time...F355? lets not get carried away.
Wow, the Boxster is a fine car and if you shop arround you are bound to find some pretty good deals. On the fact that it holds allot of its value I wouldnt be so sure. Depreciation is about the same as an Slk or Z3/ Z4. Actually, supprisingly in Italy, (just as an example) , the boxster depreciates even more than the Slk, given that there is such a high demand for used Slks. But its probably just a specific case. Still though its a much better investment (if you can consider a car an investment??!?) than say a TT.
I however would probably go for a new 350z / RX-8 over a used Boxster. Probably get shit-all of what you paid for it in 5 years time but thats just the market...cant do much about that.
911? Well now we are in a completely different class. Totally out of my league.
Why then not one of the finest of all time...F355? lets not get carried away.
Damn right Jimbo, doesnt get any better than that...
612 Scaglietti - why stop at the F355...
Jimbo ,if your name is Larry Ellison, sure why not...or SLR McLaren?
BTW Still Prefefer the 456 over the 612. but I guess the design will just grow on me. My dream...412i...metallic blue.
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Boxster S mate. It is the future. Black, maybe silver, top down, Leopoldstrasse, Playboy model in the pasenger seat... Now we are talking mate. Hop over to Italy for a weekend - hit 160mph on the Autobahn...arrive, pick flies from your teeth and make love to the playboy model sitting next to you hiding under the mess of wind blown blonde hair... Motoring does not get any better than that.
Ground effect lighting. Don't forget the ground effect lighting.
So whats everyone driving now? Anyone got anything now thats rather special or that they are rather proud of? My old Audis rather mundane unfortunatley, so I wont post a pic, especially in comparison to some of the other nice machines in this thread.
kza,
I am a very proud driver of a Black Opel Tigra. Love the little car. i wouldnt change it for the world right now,and prfundo is right, ground effect lighting is really really cool. Must get some the little cat.
I am a very proud driver of a Black Opel Tigra. Love the little car. i wouldnt change it for the world right now,and prfundo is right, ground effect lighting is really really cool. Must get some the little cat.
I have a '93 Golf III. Hence, the need for a new car. Thankfully, I can afford a little more than the used Golf without A/C that I bought in '98 although I still can't afford the Boxster!
So that's that then - a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (and no, the 456 will always be the better looker - but the 612 is supposed to be a great drive), with ground effect lighting - about quarter of a million Euros all told i should think.
And as for Kza - in Munich I am car-less, but used to have a BMW MINI Cooper - how I loved that car. Quite fancy a cheap S2000 once I return to the UK, but house prices probably mean a Fiesta...maybe the new Fiesta ST if I'm lucky...or a motorbike...
And as for Kza - in Munich I am car-less, but used to have a BMW MINI Cooper - how I loved that car. Quite fancy a cheap S2000 once I return to the UK, but house prices probably mean a Fiesta...maybe the new Fiesta ST if I'm lucky...or a motorbike...
...or maybe a kick-board with racing stripes and ground effects!
I'm pissed I don't have time to really join in on this thread! However, to sum it up:
If I were to import a new car from the USA it would either be a Subaru WRX STi or the new Ford Mustang.
I had the standard WRX (still 0-60mph in 5.4s) and adored it. The US-spec STi has an extra half liter an 24hp over the STis in the rest of the world. While it doesn't offer a ton more power in stock form, the extra 0.5L really starts to breathe with a bigger turbo. 400hp out of these 4-bangers is laughably easy. 4-doors and AWD also make it practical.
New Mustang. What can you say? 280hp, 6 speed, and styling to die for; looks like a modern car with retro cues NOT like a retro-mobile like the PT cruiser or T-Bird. I might have to wait until the Cobra or Shelby version came out though. The Cobra should be good for 400hp stock, the Shelby? God only knows. Silver with Blue Le Mans stripes... *drool*
If I were to import a new car from the USA it would either be a Subaru WRX STi or the new Ford Mustang.
I had the standard WRX (still 0-60mph in 5.4s) and adored it. The US-spec STi has an extra half liter an 24hp over the STis in the rest of the world. While it doesn't offer a ton more power in stock form, the extra 0.5L really starts to breathe with a bigger turbo. 400hp out of these 4-bangers is laughably easy. 4-doors and AWD also make it practical.
New Mustang. What can you say? 280hp, 6 speed, and styling to die for; looks like a modern car with retro cues NOT like a retro-mobile like the PT cruiser or T-Bird. I might have to wait until the Cobra or Shelby version came out though. The Cobra should be good for 400hp stock, the Shelby? God only knows. Silver with Blue Le Mans stripes... *drool*
Oh, and when I get back to the USA this is on my to-do list
351W stroked to 393 or 427
Tremec 5-Speed
Halibrand knock-offs
Huge smile on my face
351W stroked to 393 or 427
Tremec 5-Speed
Halibrand knock-offs
Huge smile on my face
Buy a bike mate - Suzuki GSX-R is defo on my shopping list along with a Yamaha R6 - serious bits of kit - 0-100 in 5.4 seconds - you'll utterly waste a Ferrari if you have arm muscles capable of hanging on. And there's always those 'big and throbbing' between my legs jokes...
Failing that - yeah, the Subaru is hot, but what about the Mitsubishi Lancer FQ-330 - 330 horses from two litre in stock form with a trick limited slip diff and anti yaw control - over a wet road you need a jet aircraft to keep up with one.
Failing that - yeah, the Subaru is hot, but what about the Mitsubishi Lancer FQ-330 - 330 horses from two litre in stock form with a trick limited slip diff and anti yaw control - over a wet road you need a jet aircraft to keep up with one.
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make love to the playboy model sitting next to you
you must have a very long, bendy one
Jimbo, wow that FQ330 is tight BUT, it costs in GBP what an STi costs in US Dollars!
I've I ever were in the market for such cars, specifically from the US, then the only beast that would make my list is the all new, awe inspiring FORD GT.
A little tech. specs? Sure...here goes...DOHC 5.4L supercharged aluminum V8.Classic big block bad ass motherf..er, which rates this little number a cool 550 bhp at 6,500 rpms or in other words a mere 92.6 hp/liter!!!.
More impressivley...this "thing!" has 678 Nm of torque !!! at 4500!!! Lord help us! the term road ripper would not do it justice.Ricardo 6 Speed Manual gearbox and looks to kill anybody are just some of the cream that tops off this Behemoth.
The perforamnce figures have not "officially" been released yet but, Im sure you boys can guess what kind of class we're dealing with.
Also available in white with blue Le-Mans stripes.
A little tech. specs? Sure...here goes...DOHC 5.4L supercharged aluminum V8.Classic big block bad ass motherf..er, which rates this little number a cool 550 bhp at 6,500 rpms or in other words a mere 92.6 hp/liter!!!.
More impressivley...this "thing!" has 678 Nm of torque !!! at 4500!!! Lord help us! the term road ripper would not do it justice.Ricardo 6 Speed Manual gearbox and looks to kill anybody are just some of the cream that tops off this Behemoth.
The perforamnce figures have not "officially" been released yet but, Im sure you boys can guess what kind of class we're dealing with.
Also available in white with blue Le-Mans stripes.
And according to Evo magazine the Ford GT will murder a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale...now THAT is cool.
two different classes Jimbo. No way a 360 can be considered a match for the GT, its about half the car. Would be more correct to compare it with an Enzo, but then we def. start going into hyperspace pricewise.
And just think, the Ford Gt is supposed to hit the streets for a mere $150,000. If Ford can pull that off I will find a way to buy one. I mean, my 'spare' kindey has got to be worth something to somebody right?
You've also got to check out the new Cobra concept. It is based on GT technology (and many parts too) but is a front engine roadster:
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You've also got to check out the new Cobra concept. It is based on GT technology (and many parts too) but is a front engine roadster:
[img]http://www.maximum-cars.com/temp/shelby/images/31.jpg[/img]
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Not sure about the treatement on the nose...as for the GT, it compares OK with a Ferrari Challenge Stradale (you know - the track spec job), and although the GT maybe the better car and quicker, it's a Ford - couldn't part with that much cash for a Ford, I really couldn't...
Nice one DW. That new cobra is one awesome piece of hardware...
Can only imagine the powerplant...at least a 427
Can only imagine the powerplant...at least a 427
Well Jimbo consider that the vintage Ford Gt 40s go for pretty big lumps of money at auctions these days, so value for money the Ford Gt wouldnt be a bad deal (at least as value keeping as your average modern modenese work of art), if someone actually has the brass the shelve out that much money for a car, that is.
Seems like all the major car manufactures are putting there paws into the Supercar market in some way or another these days. Lets just hope we actually see some mithology being created and not just one of stands alla Cizeta Moroder V16 T.
Seems like all the major car manufactures are putting there paws into the Supercar market in some way or another these days. Lets just hope we actually see some mithology being created and not just one of stands alla Cizeta Moroder V16 T.
Saw the new SLK yesterday for the first time (roof was up unsurprisingly) - don't like the looks of it at all. Too fussy on the doors and wings, and does look like an SL500 that backed into a wall at speed...
Looks sort of cheap I think. The nose looks good when one is behind you though.
BTW I sat in a new 350Z on the weekend and the salesman let me start it up. Sweet music. I'm convinced that the premium pack is a must too. Sitting in there is really really nice. Pity that it didn't have any plates on it or I would test driven it. Gonna have to make an appointment... Sad thing is i'd probably have to keep the Golf though because there is virtually NO trunk space whatsoever in the Z!
BTW I sat in a new 350Z on the weekend and the salesman let me start it up. Sweet music. I'm convinced that the premium pack is a must too. Sitting in there is really really nice. Pity that it didn't have any plates on it or I would test driven it. Gonna have to make an appointment... Sad thing is i'd probably have to keep the Golf though because there is virtually NO trunk space whatsoever in the Z!
That's one of the problems with the Z - Nissan insist on putting that strutbrace in their performance models, and whilst it improves things marginally, it halves boot space (notice use of the word BOOT not trunk)...
Great looking cars tho - personally I am still intrigued by the RX-8. 4 seats, bigger boot, funky suicide doors...
Have to say tho - I would probably end up buying the Z - and yeah, Premium pack is a must have, as are those Rays wheels - and remember DO NOT BUY IT IN BLUE! I've got some write-ups at home on the new Coupe market - I'll put 'em to one side for you and bring out next time you're gonna be around.
Great looking cars tho - personally I am still intrigued by the RX-8. 4 seats, bigger boot, funky suicide doors...
Have to say tho - I would probably end up buying the Z - and yeah, Premium pack is a must have, as are those Rays wheels - and remember DO NOT BUY IT IN BLUE! I've got some write-ups at home on the new Coupe market - I'll put 'em to one side for you and bring out next time you're gonna be around.
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