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1972 Munich terror attack - TV documentaries

24/26.Jan.2006 on BBC2 and Channel 4

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pjoyce
Jan 24 2006, 12:34 pm
Steven Spielberg's "Munich" film starts at Cinema München this Thursday (26.Jan.2006) and as a build up to the film those who have access to BBC2 and Channel 4 may be interested in two upcoming documentaries. Note: UK times are listed.

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The real story of the Israeli Mossad's "Bayonet" unit responsible for Israel's retaliation against the Palestinian Black September terrorist organization, following the 1972 massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics.

With Steven Spielberg's film Munich about to hit cinemas, many accounts exist of the Mossad's operations throughout the Middle East and West Europe. This World revisits the actual scenes of the operations with the Mossad agents responsible, as well as presenting the personal accounts of CIA operatives

This World - Munich: Operation Bayonet
BBC2 Tue 24 Jan, 11:20 pm - 12:10 am 50mins
BBC - This World website


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Munich: Mossad's Revenge
Channel 4 Thursday 26 January 10pm
Channel 4 microsite

Set after the massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics, Steven Spielberg's latest film Munich follows a secret Israeli squad assigned to track down and kill the 11 Palestinians suspected of having planned the attack.

At the beginning of the film, Spielberg and the screenwriter Tony Kushner state that it was only 'inspired' be true events, and they have admitted that much of the detail is fictional. Channel 4's documentary Munich: Mossad's revenge investigates what really happened after the years after the 1972 Olympics.

It will be accompanied by a website: Tit for Tat: Acts of vengeance and their consequences. As well as covering the revenge carried out by the Israeli covert intelligence agency Mossad for the Olympics massacre, this will examine a number of other acts of violence that led to further bloodshed, including Ghenghis Khan's invasion of Turkey in 1220, the 1942 assassination of Nazi boss Reinhard Heydrich and the murder of Indira Gandhi in 1984
Editor Bob
Jan 24 2006, 2:35 pm
This has been quite an eagerly anticipated movie. Indeed, some critics are even calling it Spielberg's most dramatic production to date. Plus, of course, there is the local interest for readers of TT.

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MonksTown
Jan 24 2006, 2:58 pm
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the massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics

Weren't the majority of the athletes killed by a botched police operation in 'brück?
Yeti
Jan 24 2006, 3:04 pm
Hardly, the kidnappers blew up a helicopter containing hostages and shot other hostages at Fürstenfeldbruck. Two hostages were killed earlier when the kidnappers stormed the athlete's quarters.
MonksTown
Jan 24 2006, 3:06 pm
I was never sure if the terrorist killed the athletes at 'brück or whether the cops did during the botched action they did there.
boomtown_rat
Jan 24 2006, 3:12 pm
I should think the grenade the terrorists let off in the helicopter wiped out at least a few of the athletes. Its possible that some were 'collateral damage' of course. The police hit one of their own snipers IIRC which didn't really help. As usual, I recommend 'One Day in September' for details of the events in Munich and the following hunt throughout Europe by the Israelis (including one spectacularly bad action in Norway!)
Pirulero
Jan 24 2006, 3:15 pm
does a hostage-taking/assasination constitute a terror attack? Or is it more of a one-off operation...?
Yeti
Jan 24 2006, 3:30 pm
A terror attack can't be a one-off operation ?
SleeplessInMunich
Jan 24 2006, 3:31 pm
QUOTE (Pirulero @ Jan 24 2006, 3:15 pm) *
does a hostage-taking/assasination constitute a terror attack? Or is it more of a one-off operation...?

It depends who carries it out and who is doing the reporting.
Pirulero
Jan 24 2006, 3:34 pm
"A terror attack can't be a one-off operation ?"

Not sure, if they were part of an ongoing campaign then yes, if they were just ransoming or whatever then i would say no...
Fluffy Bunny
Jan 24 2006, 3:40 pm
QUOTE (Yeti @ Jan 24 2006, 3:30 pm) *
A terror attack can't be a one-off operation ?

but an operation can be a one-off terror attack...they ripped me to ribbons when I had me appendix out... NHS butchers!
Exile
Jan 24 2006, 5:09 pm
QUOTE (boomtown_rat @ Jan 24 2006, 3:12 pm) *
I should think the grenade the terrorists let off in the helicopter wiped out at least a few of the athletes.

IIRC the grenade set the helicopter alight and it exploded setting the other alight. The aftermath pictures show at least one burned out copter.

At the time Germany didn't have a specialist anti-terrorist or hostage rescue team.
bluedave
Jan 24 2006, 5:11 pm
QUOTE (Exile @ Jan 24 2006, 5:09 pm) *
At the time Germany didn't have a specialist anti-terrorist or hostage rescue team.

Was GSG9 setup in response to this ?
Yeti
Jan 24 2006, 5:19 pm
The establishing of special police units was actually being discussed at the time of the Munich attack but nothing had been decided yet at that point.

Automatic weapons for the police were frowned upon, no SEK teams existed and the police snipers had no special training.
Exile
Jan 24 2006, 5:23 pm
Also wasn't the civilian government squeamish about elite military units due to the history of the SS. Hence GSG9 is formed from the Border Police rather than the army like the UK's SAS.
missy
Jan 24 2006, 5:51 pm
Answer me this.

Why did they (the media) still have a live camera rolliing (I've been informed an E.German camera) while the rescue mission was in progress so the terrorists were aware of every move the rescue team were trying to make?

very baffling (like fighting a war with no protective sheild)

Missy
boomtown_rat
Jan 24 2006, 5:53 pm
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Why did they (the media) still have a live camera rolliing (I've been informed an E.German camera) while the rescue mission was in progress so the terrorists were aware of every move the rescue team were trying to make?

because they were very stupid (cross reference with the rest of the catalogue of errors made)

I assume you are talking about the planned storming of the flat in the olympic village which was aborted
missy
Jan 24 2006, 6:33 pm
Yes Boomtown, this was a major major error, that if did not occur , the rescue attempt could have been suscessful.
bluedave
Jan 25 2006, 12:20 am
This program about to start on BBC2 for anyone interested.
Nadia
Jan 25 2006, 7:18 am
There was a great documentary that came out a couple of years back, you may be able to rent it in Germany, I'm not sure:

One day in September/Ein Tag im September
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