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Living by the bible - but only selectively

Adhering to some teachings, but ignoring others

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mork
QUOTE (Sin @ Jan 24 2006, 5:09 pm) *
Fuckin' good job we're not livin' right next door to all those Iraqi civilians then, ain't it.

I feel very sad about any war, not just in Iraq, but worldwide. Why is it always the innocent that get slaughtered and abused

QUOTE (papa_geno @ Jan 24 2006, 5:09 pm) *
@mork: whaddya mean, 'love'?

The love in this context would be spiritual (like caring for those around you). No monkey business. I see it when I look at children who love unconditionally. I see it when I see two old people going for a walk in the park. I saw it recently on the news when people banded together to assist victims of natural disasters. I could go on and on, but I think you get the idea.
Crawlie
THat is the bloody problem with these bizarre religions. They are like the set menu's. You either take the menu or go with something else. None of that swapping and changing.

Now, if religion were more like the Pick and Mix at Woolworth's then it may be worth considering.

"So I will have a handful of those eternal life cola bottle style chews but leave out the be-banished-to-the-depths-of-hell-if-you-shag-before-you-are-wed lollipops. Ta"
Keydeck
QUOTE (psioni @ Jan 24 2006, 5:22 pm) *
Didn't say anything about a 'a bit'.

If you are dead, Physically you are dead. but 'you' as a soul/spirit lives on.
(Why are you people so uneducated..huh?)

Ignorant motherfucker of a comment, part I.

Disagreement with what you happen to believe does not denote lack of education.

By the same token, a propensity to use a lot of bad language does not necessarily indicate a lacking in ones vocabulary...fucktard.
Pirulero
"Why is it always the innocent that get slaughtered and abused "

because by definition the innocent are stupid...
Eleanor Rigby
no no no. Religion is a very individual and personal thing. You can make it up as you go, you can even start your own religion if you like.
papa_geno
Yeah, I generally find people who call me thick very persuasive.
Crawlie
So who is going to list all of the perceived "benefits" of these various religions? I cannot be arsed. But I guess we would then just pick out the ones we like and form our very own personalised religions. A religious form of 1to1 marketing as it were
papa_geno
I'm tellin' ya, Paroxysm is the religion of the future. Get in on the ground floor. Big dividends. We're writing up the holy book now. You can influence people five bloody thousand years from now.

POWER! Man...
Keydeck
QUOTE (Crawlie @ Jan 24 2006, 5:27 pm) *
So who is going to list all of the perceived "benefits" of these various religions? I cannot be arsed. But I guess we would then just pick out the ones we like and form our very own personalised religions. A religious form of 1to1 marketing as it were

Well we can start with the 80 or so virgins. Although that one was qualified in such a way that at least a few of them should know what they are doing.

I'll go with fish on Friday's too so long as it includes crustaceans as well.
Kza
@Crawlie it kind of is pic n mix. My current one is protestantism, with bits of rastafarianism and 5 percenter thrown in.

BadDoggies view is naive in the extreme. The rules are only a small part of religion, and even when we only consider the rules, as I said before, I doubt any two people even of the same sub-group within a religion share exactly the same set of beliefs etc.

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But I guess we would then just pick out the ones we like and form our very own personalised religions.

Thats what everyone does anyway. And has done for most of history. Thats why things change. We arent still ancestor worshipping anymore. We have selected what we like, as time goes on, from other cultures and adopted them into our own. Nothing wrong with that.

It would require a very simple religion in the first place to even make it possible to obey consistently, and exactly like other people who share that religion.

I dont know where the idea that religions are some solid set of rules comes from, its anything but. Even catholics, who are supposed to believe and obey exactly what the pope commands dont do that.
mork
QUOTE (Pirulero @ Jan 24 2006, 5:24 pm) *
because by definition the innocent are stupid...

Not in my book mad.gif
Keydeck
QUOTE (mork @ Jan 24 2006, 5:31 pm) *
Not in my book

Mork is right. The innocent are not stupid, that's the meek. The meek are stupid. Stupid meek bastards! The innocent are merely misguided.
Crawlie
QUOTE (papa_geno @ Jan 24 2006, 5:29 pm) *
I'm tellin' ya, Paroxysm is the religion of the future. Get in on the ground floor. Big dividends. We're writing up the holy book now. You can influence people five bloody thousand years from now.

POWER! Man...

See PG. Good idea in theory but obviously you have failed to think ahead. I mean, what use (see the comma?) is the book to me now if it will only become popular in 5000 years? Or is this promising eternal life as well? Just seems like sales are going to be a little slow at first and your outlay will be huge. Or maybe you will just leave random scrolls lying around and rely on your future partners to find them and bring them together? I want IMMEDIATE results man
Yeti
BadDoggies view is, however, the view of the majority of people higher up in organised religions.
papa_geno
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obviously you have failed to think ahead.

You're the one talking about immediate returns. I'm thinking five bloody thousand years ahead, you uneducated idiot.
Crawlie
Ah yes. I see my point was slightly incorrect. What I meant is that you failed to think ahead to satisfy YOUR needs. Or are you one of those who does such things without thought of financial gain? Twat... Ahem.. Just think. The babes would be all over you if you could get them believing in this shit now. And they would be willing to pay for it too... Just look at those TV evangelists. They get laid all of the time and earn a fucking fortune in the process
Pirulero
...innocent are stupid...

...meek as well...

actually, estimate 98% of people are stupid... nuff said...
Crawlie
QUOTE (Pirulero @ Jan 24 2006, 5:38 pm) *
...innocent are stupid...

...meek as well...

actually, estimate 98% of poeple are stupid... nuff said...

The other too persent carnt spel
Pirulero
troo enuff

woznt including myself in the 2 precent though.!
papa_geno
@crawlie: obviously not, because I obviously don't believe in any of this stuff. It's not like this is my day job, or something.

Cunt.

EDIT: where the hell are those pics of scantily clad women? Jesus Christ, I can't rely on you bunch for anything...
mork
QUOTE (Pirulero @ Jan 24 2006, 5:38 pm) *
...innocent are stupid...

...meek as well...

actually, estimate 98% of poeple are stupid... nuff said...

The innocent people I was referring to are mostly women and children. Is your granny/mother/sister/aunt stupid? Are the children in your family stupid?

Maybe 98% of poeple are stupid, you would know. Are you also a poeple?
Pirulero
lol, funny u getting that pissed off bout it! ok, for reasons of diplomacy, please replace stupid with ignorant...

and i dont know many grannies who are innocent...they all have their skeletons...the friendlier they are...
Kza
QUOTE (mork @ Jan 24 2006, 5:44 pm) *
Maybe 98% of poeple are stupid, you would know. Are you also a poeple?

I would say its about 85%, according to at least one religion.

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The 85%, who are the "humble masses," mentally deaf, dumb, and blind to the truth about themselves and the world they live in.
Pirulero
thanx, same thing only with DADAHMMMMMM, references!
Sin
QUOTE (mork @ Jan 24 2006, 5:23 pm) *
Why is it always the innocent that get slaughtered and abused

Coz of people doin' God's Will, innit.
Topsy
QUOTE (papa_geno @ Jan 24 2006, 5:41 pm) *
EDIT: where the hell are those pics of scantily clad women? Jesus Christ, I can't rely on you bunch for anything...

At times like this the best first port of call, I find, is IW's back catalogue.
E.g. Get up and dance!
or Get up and dance!
papa_geno
well, if you're gonna make an omelette...

OK, obviously, this isn't gonna devolve into anything really random anytime soon, and it's drifted far away from the original topic (drift instigated by the original poster, might I add), so...

EDIT: ah. Thanks for that, Topsy. Much appreciated. Thread was doin' my head in.
mork
QUOTE (Sin @ Jan 24 2006, 5:47 pm) *
Coz of people doin' God's Will, innit.

That's what the butchers would like everyone to believe. I did not read anywhere of Jesus going around killing people.
Pirulero
he pissed off some priests though, and they killed him...
Kza
And he will lead an army to slaughter all unbelievers when the armageddon comes. But that will be a righteous killing.
Pirulero
...because we will deserve by then...
Crawlie
QUOTE (papa_geno @ Jan 24 2006, 5:41 pm) *
@crawlie: obviously not, because I obviously don't believe in any of this stuff. It's not like this is my day job, or something.

Cunt.

EDIT: where the hell are those pics of scantily clad women? Jesus Christ, I can't rely on you bunch for anything...

Who are you calling a cunt? Nobcheese...

The pictures are posted but non-believers cannot see them I'm afraid...
phaedrus
Yes where is g*d?
psioni
QUOTE (Tomasino @ Jan 23 2006, 8:51 pm) *
OK, so now that we have flattened the snow, let's mush those religious huskies.

Question (I guess to TT-er "Space"):

Let's assume that the Bible has some level of credibility, if not in its entireity, than partially. And that lots of messages therein could be applicable to many.

Not to sound like a "pick-and-chooser", but isn't it ok to follow parts of the Bible but not other parts? (There are definitely other parts of this question, but let's go in stages, shall we?)

Anyway, what do you people think?

Any super religious TT-ers like to weigh in?

Any atheists? What do you think?

Going back to the original question...( Geez..you people can't even focus...!)

There is really no pick&choose possible if you are "true" to a religion.
Chrstianity is the same.
Those who pick and chose WILLINGLY are in trouble. ( like the health-wealth gosple )...
Those who make mistakes and fail to obey , can be forgiven as long as they accept it and repent of it.

So, Christianity is no exception here.

rolleyes.gif

Glad to be followers of 'the ONE'.

rolleyes.gif
grazzenger
oh what a load of old cobblers. i can't think of many people who live by the rules of christianity 100% of the time. particularily those paedophiles in the vatican for starters and they're supposed to be holier-than-thou.

i believe that there are some good ideas by which you can guide your life and a lot of cobblers which has been and continues to be misconstrued and abused. we live in the 21st century and old-fashioned burn-in-hell-for-swearing-type-christianity has no place imho.

good, done, now off to watch episode v, the empire strikes back.
psioni
Exactly as I said.

No Christian can live 100% as God wants.
That is Why we all need Jesus to take our place bro.

Atleast we don't give up ...and yes 21st century is nothing compared to the coming eternity...

eternity is a long time comapred to twenty-one centuries of human history...

you have been warned!

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theLSB
[img]http://www.1pov.com/_borders/popcorn.gif[/img]
psioni
Was that popcorn?

Baddoggie...are you going to complete your post??
BadDoggie
QUOTE (psioni @ Jan 24 2006, 10:26 pm) *
eternity is a long time comapred to twenty-one centuries of human history...

Twenty-one centuries of human history? So not only don't you accept that humans have been around more or less in their present form for around a million years, you don't even accept that the Ancient Egyptians existed or that a pre-Augustian Roman empire ruled Europe? Were most of the Chinese dynasties a big lie?

woof.
sea-king
Watching and waiting

psioni
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Jan 24 2006, 10:39 pm) *
Twenty-one centuries of human history? So not only don't you accept that humans have been around more or less in their present form for around a million years, you don't even accept that the Ancient Egyptians existed or that a pre-Augustian Roman empire ruled Europe? Were most of the Chinese dynasties a big lie?

woof.

OK, if I am wrong, let's say a million years of 'human' history...
So million years compared to Eternity...Do you know how that compares?
it is like a drop of water to the Sea...

boy oh boy... laugh.gif
sea-king
@ Everybody Look the guy is a trolling prannit why get upset, his god is not our god, our god sends us beer and well form ladies wot like a bit of slap and tickle. His god doesn`t even allow a good old 5 finger shuffle. Sad bastard really. blink.gif
psioni
QUOTE (sea-king @ Jan 24 2006, 10:43 pm) *
Look the guy is a trolling prannit why get upset, his god is not our god, our god sends us beer and well form ladies wot like a bit of slap and tickle. His god doesn`t even allow a good old 5 finger shuffle. Sad bastard really.

May God Bless you Bro.
sea-king
My god I bleedin`hope, you nonsense spouting fuckwit. blink.gif
psioni
There is only One.
Sadly true.

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theLSB
ammm excuse the uneducated question, but... who is that god guy everyone is mentioning all the time?
Is he like a president or something? blink.gif
sea-king
@ psioni Actually, wrong jerk-brain there are 1,000`s out there, but you are so narrow minded you don`t see this.
"I must not let myself be draw into an argument with this eejit" Say`s to himself and shambles off for a wank. blink.gif
psioni
QUOTE (theLSB @ Jan 24 2006, 10:50 pm) *
ammm excuse the uneducated question, but... who is that god guy everyone is mentioning all the time?
Is he like a president or something?

You ignorant human!
You don't even know your own creator? Who blinded you ?

Yea...I tell you, He created you , but you rejected Him.

Yet He still loves you and wants you to come back to Him.

rolleyes.gif

BTW: all presidents are below Him, and one day they all will give an account for all wickedness they have done...
sea-king
Should`ve brought more pop-corn. blink.gif
psioni
QUOTE (sea-king @ Jan 24 2006, 10:52 pm) *
@ psioni Actually, wrong jerk-brain there are 1,000`s out there, but you are so narrow minded you don`t see this.
"I must not let myself be draw into an argument with this eejit" Say`s to himself and shambles off for a wank.

You say so.
You wnt me to believe that... laugh.gif
Sorry..not too reliable...
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