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Stupid E-Mail disclaimers

Many words, dubious legal standing

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BadDoggie
The body of the message was "I''ve uploaded the logs" but the mail filled my screen. Under the sender's name was the following, attached by the corporate mail server:

QUOTE
The views and opinions expressed in this email may not reflect the views and opinions of any member of the group of which NAGE forms part. The information contained in this message is confidential and may also be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee named above. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), please notify the originator immediately by return message and destroy the original message. This message and any attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving the NAGE network. However, NAGE does not guarantee the security of this message and will not be responsible for any damages arising as a result of any virus being passed on or arising from any alteration of this message by a third party. NAGE may monitor emails sent to and from the NAGE network.

Post the worst you've seen.

woof.
Editor Bob
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Jan 19 2006, 3:55 pm) *
The information contained in this message is confidential and may also be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee named above. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly prohibited.

Does unauthorised disclosure include disclosing the disclaimer?
Jeeves
Not if the disclaimer is not contained in the message.
tom_a
So how do you tell if the disclaimer is part of the message or not? rolleyes.gif
Crawlie
The disclaimers are pretty much all the same as that one. They are a pain but very necessary
BadDoggie
QUOTE (Crawlie @ Jan 19 2006, 4:02 pm) *
They are a pain but very necessary

Necesasry for what? They have no legal standing whatsoever. They make unenforceable demands and disclaim all liability. They also get pointlessly longer and longer each year.

woof.
Crawlie
They are very Necesasry to piss off people with too much time on their hands
BadDoggie
Point, Crawlie.

woof.
Darkknight
Here is the current winner of the longest Email disclaimer award.. (Yes it's real)

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This report has been prepared by the division, group, subsidiary or affiliate of UBS AG ("UBS") identified herein. In certain countries UBS AG is referred to as UBS SA, which is a translation of UBS AG, its registered legal name. UBS Warburg is a business group of UBS AG. This report is for distribution only under such circumstances as may be permitted by applicable law, including the following: This report has no regard to the specific investment objectives, financial situation or particular needs of any specific recipient. The report is published solely for informational purposes and is not to be construed as a solicitation or an offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. The securities described herein may not be eligible for sale in all jurisdictions or to certain categories of investors. The report is based on information obtained from sources believed to be reliable but is not guaranteed as being accurate, nor is it a complete statement or summary of the securities, marketsor developments referred to in the report. The report should not be regarded by recipients as a substitute for the exercise of their own judgement. Any opinions expressed in this report are subject to change without notice and UBS is not under any obligation to update or keep current the information contained herein. UBS and/or its directors, officers and employees may have or have had interests or long or short positions in, and may at any time make purchases and/or sales as principal or agent, or UBS may act or have acted as market-maker in the relevant securities or related financial instruments discussed in this report. Furthermore, UBS may have or have had a relationship with or may provide or has provided corporate finance, capital markets and/or other financial services to the relevant companies. Employees of UBS may serve or have served as officers or directors of the relevant companies. UBS may rely on information barriers, such as "Chinese Walls," to control the flow of information contained in one or more areas within UBS, into other areas, units, divisions, groups, or affiliates of UBS.

Options, derivative products and futures are not suitable for all investors, and trading in these instruments is considered risky. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. Foreign currency rates of exchange may adversely affect the value, price or income of any security or related instrument mentioned in this report. Clients wishing to effect transactions should contact their local sales representative. UBS accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage of any kind arising out of the use of all or any part of this report. Additional information will be made available upon request.

EEA: This report has been issued by UBS Warburg Ltd., regulated in the UK by the Securities and Futures Authority. In the UK this report is for distribution to persons who are not UK private customers. Customers should approach the analyst(s) named on the cover regarding the contents of this report. For investment advice, trade execution or any other queries, customers should contact their London representative. Switzerland: This report is being distributed in Switzerland by UBS AG. Italy: Should persons receiving this research in Italy require additional information or wish to effect transactions in the relevant securities, they should contact either Giubergia UBS Warburg SIM SpA, an associate of UBS SA, in Milan or UBS Warburg (Italia) SIM SpA, a subsidiary of UBS SA, in Milan or its London or Lugano Branch. South Africa: UBS Warburg Securities (South Africa) (Pty) Ltd. (incorporating J.D. Anderson & Co.) is a member of the JSE Securities Exchange SA. United States: This report is being distributed to US persons by either UBS Warburg LLC or by UBS PaineWebber Inc., subsidiaries of UBS AG; or (ii) by a division, group, subsidiary or affiliate of UBS AG, that is not registered as a US broker-dealer (a "non-US affiliate"), to major US institutional investors only. UBS Warburg LLC or UBS PaineWebber Inc. accepts responsibility for the content of a report prepared by another non-US affiliate when distributed to US persons by UBS Warburg LLC or UBS PaineWebber Inc. All transactions by a US person in the securities mentioned in this report must be effected through UBS Warburg LLC or UBS PaineWebber Inc., and not through a non-US affiliate. Canada: This report is being distributed by UBS Bunting Warburg Inc., a subsidiary of UBS AG and a member of the principal Canadian stock exchanges & CIPF. A statement of its financial condition and a list of its directors and senior officers will be provided upon request. Singapore: This report is being distributed in Singapore by UBS Warburg Pte. Ltd. Hong Kong: This report is being distributed in Hong Kong to investors who fall within section 3(1) of the Securities Ordinance (Cap 333) by UBS Warburg Asia Limited. Japan: This report is
being distributed in Japan by UBS Warburg (Japan) Limited to institutional investors only. Australia: This report is being distributed in Australia by UBS Warburg Australia Limited in relation to fixed income securities, and UBS Warburg Australia Equities Limited in relation to equity securities. New Zealand: This report is being distributed in New Zealand by UBS Warburg New Zealand Ltd in relation to fixed income securities and UBS Warburg New Zealand Equities Ltd in relation to equity securities.

+ 2001. All rights reserved. No part of this report may be reproduced or distributed in any manner without the written permission of UBS. UBS specifically prohibits the re-distribution of this report, via the Internet or otherwise, and accepts no liability whatsoever for the actions of third parties in this respect.

Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com

This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.

E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
YorkshireLad6
This is one I had recently. Apart from the text below the mail body said "Fine, see you tomorrow" (in response to an earlier mail I sent setting up an appointment)

QUOTE
Diese Information ist ausschliesslich fuer die adressierte Person oder
Organisation bestimmt und koennte vertrauliches und/oder privilegiertes
Material enthalten. Personen oder Organisationen, fuer die diese
Information nicht bestimmt ist, ist es nicht gestattet, diese zu lesen,
erneut zu uebertragen, zu verbreiten, anderweitig zu verwenden oder sich
durch sie veranlasst zu sehen, Massnahmen irgendeiner Art zu ergreifen.
Sollten Sie diese Nachricht irrtuemlich erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie,
sich mit dem Absender in Verbindung zu setzen und das Material von Ihrem
Computer zu loeschen. Sie haben uns gebeten, mit Ihnen ueber das Internet
per E-Mail zu korrespondieren. Unbeschadet dessen ist allein die von uns
unterzeichnete schriftliche Fassung verbindlich. Wir weisen darauf hin,
dass derartige Nachrichten mit und ohne Zutun von Dritten verloren gehen,
veraendert oder verfaelscht werden koennen. Herkoemmliche E-Mails sind
nicht gegen den Zugriff von Dritten geschuetzt und deshalb ist auch die
Vertraulichkeit unter Umstaenden nicht gewahrt. Wir haften deshalb nicht
fuer die Unversehrtheit von E-Mails nachdem sie unseren Herrschaftsbereich
verlassen haben und koennen Ihnen hieraus entstehende Schaeden nicht
ersetzen. Sollte trotz der von uns verwendeten Virus-Schutz-Programmen
durch die Zusendung von E-Mails ein Virus in Ihre Systeme gelangen, haften
wir nicht fuer eventuell hieraus entstehende Schaeden. Dieser
Haftungsausschluss gilt nur soweit gesetzlich zulaessig.

English: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which
it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material.
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of
any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other
than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error,
please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.You
have asked us to correspond with you via the Internet per e-mail. However,
the written version signed by us is the only authoritative version. We
draw your attention to the fact that such messages can be lost, changed or
falsified, with or without any interference by third persons. Normal
e-mails are not protected against access by third persons and, therefore,
their confidentiality may not be assured in certain circumstances. We
cannot be responsible for the integrity of emails after they have left our
sphere of control. We shall not, therefore, indemnify you for any damages
resulting out of these circumstances. If, despite our use of anti-virus
software, a virus enters your systems in connection with the sending of
the e-mail, you may not hold us liable for any damages that may possibly
arise in that connection. We will accept liability which by law we cannot
exclude.
Jimbo
This is my firm's one. For a bunch of lawyers it's worryingly to the point:

QUOTE
This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.

E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
interplanetjanet
Um, I guess academic institutions (where most of my incoming email originates) aren't so overly-protecty, because I've never seen one of those disclaimers before. Or is it just not an American thing? I've definitely received emails from friends working at Yahoo, Netscape, Sun and Google, and they've never had such a disclaimer.
AnthonyDoesEurope
Here is our official disclaimer:

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WICHTIGER HINWEIS: Diese E-mail, die angehängten Dateien und deren Inhalt sind ausschließlich für den oder die oben bezeichneten Adressaten bestimmt und können vertraulicher Natur sein und/oder Geschäfts- oder Betriebsgeheimnisse enthalten. Jeder Zugriff sowie jegliche Nutzung, Verbreitung oder Speicherung durch andere Personen ist nicht gestattet. Eine Zuwiderhandlung kann strafrechtlich verfolgt werden. Sollten Sie diese E-mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie, den Absender umgehend zu benachrichtigen und anschließend die E-mail zu löschen.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email and any attachments are intended for the recipient(s) named above only and may be of confidential nature and/or contain trade secrets. Any unauthorized review, printing, copying, use or distribution of this email by other persons is prohibited and may constitute a criminal offense. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the original message.
BadDoggie
This email and any attachments are intended for the recipient(s) named above only and may be of confidential nature and/or contain trade secrets.

If I got the mail, I am a named recipient. It's in the "To:" field. If you don't want me to see your trade secrets or confidential information, make sure YOU send mail to the intended people. Do not try to make your responsibilities mine without paying me.

Any unauthorized review, printing, copying, use or distribution of this email by other persons is prohibited and may constitute a criminal offense.

Prohibited by whom? By law? Nope. You sent it to me whether you meant to or not. The onus is on you to handle and protect your distributions.

If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the original message.

If the sender is willing to pay for my time I'll notify him. Freelance I charge €200/hr or any portion thereof unless otherwise contracted.

In the case of US companies, US Postal Law has been continuall applied to E-Mail. One important law is that if someone sends ou something you didn't ask for or order (and was not ordered on your behalf fraudulently in order to take advantage of this law), you haev a right to keep it. You may open any mail addressed to you. Send me confidential information and I have the right to read it and do with the information whatever I care to. Send me a trade secret and it's no longer a trade secret; I'm not bound by any NDA other than the one I signed for my current employer.

As I said, all a loada bollox.

woof.
don_riina
Its is complete bollacks. Just pointless little addendums. Hate pointless un-needed crap like that.

Woof
(wink.gif Irrrrrrresistable...)
AnthonyDoesEurope
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Jan 20 2006, 10:22 am) *
As I said, all a loada bollox.

It's just a scare tactic, innit? "may constitute a criminal offense". Hell, everything I do "may constitute a criminal offense" ... and often is wink.gif
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