Starbucks bombing

Good news for all in that somebody tried to bomb a starbucks establishment. Sadly, it was defused, but I feel a warmth in my heart that at least one other person out there thinks this chain of scum should be destroyed.

I guess terrorism, in your eyes, has a place everywhere... even if the Latta sucked!

bit drastic, though, innit?
i mean, can't they just buy their coffee somewhere else if they're not keen on starbucks?

why do you feel it is a chain of scum (or do you just feel this way about all chains)?

edit: wow, it was in SF. I wonder which one it was.

scum, and not the good kind as in SCUMM...more like the sheen of additives on the top of their mochas...

How can that be good news !!!

A bomb is a bomb is a bomb - Despite the fact that I agree with you about the need to rid the world of Starbucks, I feel that your statement is a little insensitive... The good news should be that the bomb was found before if could cause any harm !

Could this be the thread that Rus has been searching for...it has potential.

One more of them here in munich and I might think about a visit to the SB toilet as well... People always thought McD is bad... they have no idea! SB is EVIL!!!

damage done! doesnt matter whther it was a bomb or not. Now people will associate Starbucks with bombs in the toilets. if that was the point, very clever, very humane terrorists...

To prevent people using the toilets @SB...?

what specifically do you all have against Starbucks? If it's perceived treatment of the coffee growers in 3rd world countries, okay then I'm with you. If it's just because it's been successful at selling an enormous amount of coffee at ridiculous prices, then it's plain stupid as you only have the people to blame for making them so big, not the company.

for me its about the coffee price-fixing subsidising crap that they rely on to do business...dunno bout the others..

If you want an eye-opener on Starbucks, try reading "No Logo" by Naomi Klein.

@DR:

It ain't just one person.

Some less violent ways to disrupt business at your least fave coffee shop on that link, if you're interested...

MacCoffee. Yuck!

The staff at the Starbucks on Leopaldstr. always give me a funny look when I pass wearing my Starbucks 'Fuck Off' T-shirt.

@pirulero - not heard of that. do you have an article on it? just quickly googled and didn't come up with anything.

He provided a link.

Easy: their coffee sucks! They just drown the whole thing with their flavours and syrups and sell it as "coffee-culture"! Don't get me wrong, SB is the best you can get in the states, but why the f%&§ do they need to sell it over here?

sounds like a lot you just have a problem with capitalism. doesn't it pay your bills?

@helterskelter - I agree on the coffee quality. Blech, particularly here. But they sell it here because the people buy it. period. And there is better coffee in the US though. I used to love Peet's in SF, which the opportunity to go global before SB and decided against it. Sigh.

Er...no.

where.

@SiM - unless you live in a communist country, it sure does, either directly or indirectly.

When I read the thread title I thought I was going to read about a failing starbucks losing money hand over fist. You understand my disappointment when I read about a bombing. Hold on...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/stor...5535959,00.html

where does it discuss price fixing. if you look at my post, that is what i was asking about. not about the original article ffs.

D'oh!

@whiners

Tell me where in Munich I can sit down, in a comfortable chair and take a break during the day? At a fine, traditional, german Stehcafe? At SFCC? Where?!

Much of Starbucks is about having a place to relax. God, at least the storefronts are more attractive than Subway, McDs or Burger King! They are a publicly-traded company, which entails the evils of capitalism and the need for growth.

Ten years ago they were avant-gard and cool. Now they're McCoffee. Well, start something new and quit bitching.

Capitalism is just an economic model and doesn't actually pay my bills, thank you. Plus we live in a pretty much mixed economy, not a true capitalist one.

That's true... most people buy any shit if you wrap it nicely... sad but true...

But apart from the taste, SB is the destroying a variety they pretend to offer in a chick and trendy way... not even talking about their other business-parctices...

Zur Brezen on Leopoldstrasse.

Stupid question, close the door on your way out won't you.

I still don't see it. Money from the government (not implying you're on the dole here!) is tax money, largely from capitalist companies, money from trust funds or nonprofit funds are also largely from contributions from companies or wealthy individuals. Money in your paycheck is too.

Stupid answer.

Don't want a bar at 10 in the morn', don't want smoke, and Zur Brezn has only chairs and stools, as far as I know.

Point of fact, the mindless drones who buy their coffee are destroying the variety they pretend to want in a 'chick' and trendy way...

Don't like it? Don't buy it. That'll show 'em.

@Chris
At least tehy didnt go for the starbucks tower in Seattle!

still, if the people are dumb enough to fall for it, so be it. what are they supposed to say? "Please don't give me your money"?

here I think it's a bit of youth preferring to buy things American. the number of Yankees hats and kids dressing as gansta rappers...shudder...appalling to even Americans...

Just by writtin you don't lnow where else to go, it shows you've never actually been looking for something else than the big green sign... doesn't it?

@bb: True!
@pg: Never bought one over here... to be honest I prefer my own machine and grinder above everything else anyhow...

I prefer the bombing option.

Coffee is a drink to have in the morning, end of discussion.

Considering that the Germans have laws where you cant cross the road when the red man is on, even though its 4 in the morning and there are no cars about and you are at fault if a bike hits you in the bike path , even though the prick on the bike has seen you. They should pass a law that bans coffee drinking after 10am.

I hate Starbucks and any type of coffee shop.

Can I have a Coffee please?

Do you want a Cappucino, Mocca, latte blah, blah, blah!!!

No I just want a NORMAL coffee, no fancy shit!!

I agree with Don...bomb the fuckers!!

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bloody hell, u wanted a link...
http://www.organicconsumers.org/starbucks/coffee-beans.cfm

plus a hundred others, dunno what google u were using..

My money is on E.L.F. or Earth First. I do not for a sec believe its anything international.

Starbucks--I, too, dislike it. I dislike people with no bloody taste more, though.

Um, I was just at Starbucks today. It's not the best coffee I've ever tasted, but I don't think I'm a "mindless drone" for stopping in there.

Every time I want a schnitzel, I don't seek out the absolute best schnitzel in town. Often I go to whatever's most convenient.

See Life Cycle of a TTer:

"If there's some serious political discussion (don't we come to the Intarweb to get away from all that?), post a joke. "

Q. Why don't cannibals eat clowns?
A. Because they taste funny.

Just give it a day and SB is gonna offer the CannibalBananaClownMoccaLatteFrozenShake...

There's the rub.

I'm not the one advocating bombing, even in jest.

I think Starbucks is somewhat irresponsible, as a corporation. And my personal choice would be not to frequent them because that would make me an irresponsible consumer.

That, and the taste thing. I can make coffee at home. And do so well after 10 am in the morning.

I think it belongs under the heading of "freedom of choice", no ?

Just because you personally don't like any particular place doesn't mean that evry bugger else has to go along with your view and ban / abolish / bomb it.

I don't drink coffee at all but don't see that therefore all coffee shops should be closed, live and let live innit

snore

Aye, live and let live. But SB's policy is to saturate an are with their shops and force out all other competitors so that there is no choice for the consumer.

This is a bit OT, but when I heard Starbuck's was coming to Germany (lo these many years ago, when it was still talk and speculation), I was really interested to see how the company would impact the old German go-to-a-cafe-sit-down-order-and-drink-it-there culture.

Take-out coffee was just not done before. Neither was standing in line for your food, except at a Stehcafe or Imbiss.

This style (call it "American" if you want) of cafe culture has really caught on among young people. You don't see too many older people at SB or San Francisco Coffee Co, though. I like it. Because I HATE cafes with bad service like Richart Marienplatz or Tombosi, whose coffee beverages are also WAY overpriced, IMHO.

i searched "Starbucks price fixing" on google.com. Nothing came up on the first page which, if it's that well know, it should.

that article blames Procter & Gamble Co., Philip Morris Cos.'s Kraft Foods Inc., Sara Lee Corp. and Nestle SA of Switzerland, which apparently control about 40 percent of the world's coffee, as ell as the US withdrawal of coffee subsidies after the wall fell in 1989. In fact it actually says

@Sleepless

Do you think San Francisco Coffee Company will be forced out of business by Starbucks? They might be "just the same" in many eyes, but they're competition, nonetheless.

Where I'm from, the competition is alive and well. In fact at least four independent houses have evolved into small chains, and many one-off shops are thriving. You just have to come up with something that folks like, be it coffee, decor, music, free-wlan, etc.

Hard as it might be to believe, I'm reallly not a huge fan of Starbucks, but I like getting out of the house to read, draw, work, surf, meet up, etc. If I find better places to go than Starbucks, I will frequent them.