bluedave
Dec 19 2005, 10:23 am
also from the same article comparing the respective capabilities :-
QUOTE
One must bear in mind that the full details of the simulation have not been released, making it hard to verify whether it gives an accurate evaluation of the capabilities of these aircraft (for instance, whether they had adequate knowledge of the Sukhoi and Raptor to realistically simulate their combat performance). Another problem with the study is the scenarios under which the combat took place are unclear; it is possible that they were deliberately or accidentally skewed to combat scenarios that favoured certain aircraft over others;
Bottom line is the first time you know how good your toys are is when you get to pit them against someone elses unless of course you have the advantage of Tom Cruise flying " inverted "
DrivinWest
Dec 19 2005, 10:25 am
QUOTE (Kebab Meister @ Dec 19 2005, 10:14 am)
What you forgot to quote was that was no way intended to be official because of the lack of information available on the latest aircraft...
Indeed, that was in the link though (cuz there's LOTS of it!):
QUOTE
D'oh, bluedave beat me to the link
etc., etc.
Do you know of any handicapping in Red Flag?
Timmeh
Dec 19 2005, 10:38 am
QUOTE (DrivinWest @ Dec 19 2005, 10:11 am)
Blasphemy! It's gorgeous:
You've got a picture of it from it's good side, with all it's make-up on and nice lighting. I agree with the previous comment on it's ugliness, especially front on.
SleeplessInMunich
Dec 19 2005, 3:44 pm
Yet another one.
Just heard it in Unterschliessheim.
Hutcho
Dec 19 2005, 3:44 pm
Feck me.. that one was so big it set the car alarm off on a car over the road!
Small Town Boy
Dec 19 2005, 3:44 pm
I am going to get a heart attack soon. Just had another one, sounded as if it was actually breaking the sound barrier in the ceiling above my head.
Edit: I should point out that I am 40kms away in Freising. So if I'm having a heart attack and Hutcho has car alarms going off, then I think we can appreciate the area that one of these booms covers. Still, I'm sure the pilot is having fun.
Tobi
Dec 19 2005, 3:44 pm
boom
Just G
Dec 19 2005, 3:45 pm
SAme here in the South of Munich.
Lupo
Dec 19 2005, 3:45 pm
Dammit!
Yup, I was just looking up the thread in order to post.
Tobi
Dec 19 2005, 3:46 pm
Currently playing:
Coldplay
Speed of sound
Tom17
Dec 19 2005, 3:46 pm
Was very quiet here in Riem.. But it was cool cos this time I announced to the entire office "sonic boom coming" and we all sat around waiting for it for about 10 secs.
Good times
So TT also acts as an early warning system!
Tom17
Dec 19 2005, 3:49 pm
Naah it was Blimeygirl on MSN... Sorry to dissapoint
I just heard a faint one. Could have been aliens though.
oli2000
Dec 19 2005, 3:51 pm
I don't get this one... I heard a bang, but after that I also heard the plane. I thought you either hear the bang or the plane, but not both.
Lupo
Dec 19 2005, 3:52 pm
I heard both - In
Pasing (Pun intended)
space
Dec 19 2005, 3:53 pm
Here is a Promo clip from The Eurofighter guys.
NothingComesClosehave fun and 35Mb,
take care,
space
Lupo
Dec 19 2005, 3:56 pm
We could almost figure out the flight path if we had more exact times. If STB heard it in Freising, then I did at about 1544..etc. I wonder how long it´d take to fly from above STB´s house in Freising to over Munich...Pretty damn fast...not altogether a "peaceful easy feelin" sound on the ground though!
Pirulero
Dec 19 2005, 4:17 pm
"Here is a Promo clip from The Eurofighter guys.
NothingComesClose
have fun and 35Mb,
take care,
space"
WOW, im willing to accept that kind of shit froma hollywood blockbuster like "behind enemy lines" or something like that, but as an ADVERT!! Christ, what a bunch of bullshit, 3 SAMs, 1 dogfight, solo, not a scratch...funny...
Timmeh
Dec 19 2005, 4:22 pm
QUOTE (Pirulero @ Dec 19 2005, 4:17 pm)
an ADVERT!!
I didn't bother with the link, but I'm kinda amazed that they advertise their planes, I would've thought that the person in the market for a hi-tech fighter plane would know everything there is to possibly know about them. I guess it is plausible that some chap in charge of an air force gets wowed by the bright lights and cool soundtrack and decides to go for a EuroFighter over a Raptor or whatever they're called
Rizzo
Dec 19 2005, 4:36 pm
Looks to be more geared towards the general web-site audience and anoraks. Makes a change from techy stuff though. Fun if you've got the PC Oomph to run it.
HartlepoolLad
Dec 20 2005, 12:26 am
I have heard them often in Fuerstenfeldbruck and shook the building... just thought it was maybe a quarry or the soldiers at Fliegerhorst exploding something... guess it must have been Sonic Booms then...
SleeplessInMunich
Dec 20 2005, 11:46 am
Next one just happened. Listen out folks.
Showem
Dec 20 2005, 11:46 am
11:46, boom in Maxvordstadt
Timmeh
Dec 20 2005, 11:46 am
Also just geheard it in Gern
Hutcho
Dec 20 2005, 11:46 am
Happened at 11:45.24 here in Friemann..
Jeeves
Dec 20 2005, 11:46 am
Yep. That's the first one I heard. Now I'm beginning to believe you guys.
oli2000
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 am
Wow. This one sounded like a big gun.
Lupo
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 am
Dammit, I´m trying to study!
Jaz
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 am
11.45 BOOM in Schleissheimerstr
rubens
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 am
Crawlie
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 am
Heard it too. The Germans get nervous when they hear it. They think bomber Harris is coming to visit again
abra
Dec 20 2005, 11:49 am
Not a fan of this, as it just woke up the baby that I take care of here in
Lehel.
Elfenstar
Dec 20 2005, 12:00 pm
okay, so i heard it both just now and yesterday too. it sounded like someone threw something onto the top of the tin-covered car garages down below. but i face SE. i am at
Harras.
i feel special now!
oli2000
Dec 20 2005, 12:05 pm
QUOTE (Crawlie @ Dec 20 2005, 11:47 am)
Germans get nervous when they hear it. They think bomber Harris is coming to visit again
A bit lame that one. Suggest you give that rats maze of yours you call brain a rinse of the alcohol before posting idiocies, or just focus on whatever it is you masquerade as as being employed
Keydeck
Dec 20 2005, 12:10 pm
QUOTE (oli2000 @ Dec 20 2005, 12:05 pm)
A bit lame that one. Suggest you give that rats maze of yours you call brain a rinse of the alcohol before posting idiocies, or just focus on whatever it is you masquerade as as being employed
QUOTE (oli2000 @ Nov 8 2005, 11:43 pm)
"Wenn ein Polizeiauto auf der Strasse steht , ist es wohl klar dass kein Auto vorbei kommt" is what this German bitch replied. I answered that she had obviously not registered that
a. the war's over and
b. Germany lost
and she immediately ran away screaming some shit about "Aufstand" and "Hilfe" and I couldn't believe the taxi driver quickly pulled back his car, did a powerslide to get in the next side street and drove me home saying "You're right – Germans haven't comprehended that the war is over and they lost".
Jimbo
Dec 20 2005, 12:11 pm
/runs around room with hands held over eyes to look like goggles whilst humming the 'Dam Buster' tune...
Lupo
Dec 20 2005, 12:32 pm
Groundhog day?
tigress
Dec 20 2005, 12:39 pm
At work we are in the process of moving offices to a different building and so there has been some banging going on with the removals guys and everytime theres a real loud bang they all think its the removals guys and no one would believe me that it was a sonic boom even after showing them this post. Now the removals guys are gone and of course, there are still happening and so finally my colleagues are starting to believe me and not think that Im mad!
bluedave
Dec 20 2005, 12:43 pm
couldn't hear it in Hamburg . . .
sarabyrd
Dec 20 2005, 12:49 pm
Loud and clear again in
Lehel, getting boring. It should be like a soccer game: 3 booms, 1 bail out.
@ bluedave: Have a Kilkenny for me at Finnegan's Wake!!!
bluedave
Dec 20 2005, 12:51 pm
@ sarabyrd
will do, am in there tonight, buggers made me fly up here for three days so need a relaxing libation
DDBug
Dec 20 2005, 1:41 pm
I was at a red light when the 11:45 one hit - I thought something hit the car - but no one was behind or near me. Does anyone really know what this is?
SleeplessInMunich
Dec 20 2005, 1:53 pm
QUOTE (DDBug @ Dec 20 2005, 1:41 pm)
Does anyone really know what this is?
Er...a sonic boom caused by the Euro fighter
bluedave
Dec 20 2005, 1:59 pm
QUOTE (SleeplessInMunich @ Dec 20 2005, 1:53 pm)
Er...a sonic boom caused by the Euro fighter
some 212 posts later . . .
SleeplessInMunich
Dec 20 2005, 2:02 pm
Hey, I was answering DDBugs question. she wanted to know what it was.
iain
Dec 20 2005, 2:05 pm
heard it again today while standing in
Marienplatz (freising), looked up and saw the jet stream. quite the shake if your standing underneath the flight path.
DDBug
Dec 20 2005, 2:18 pm
I was only wondering if that was REALLY what it is - since it seems to be happening so often. (I grew up near mine blasting, which felt oddly similar to what I felt today). But if someone really saw the jet stream them I'm happy..
iain
Dec 20 2005, 2:20 pm
be happy, i saw it.
and living not to far away from your self, i have also been hearing it frequently, at first i thought it was the people in the hof behind my apartment.
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