Dog owners beware, poison found in English Garden

Actually the smaller the dog, the more likely that it will not recover from the warfarin poisoning. Simple volume of distribution!

True, but we can control our dogs better. And, at the very worst, we can pick them up and carry them away from something. That said, digging around in that little mouth (with those sharp teeth) to find something before it goes down can be next to impossible.

All this talk about dogs is making me REALLY want my own dog.

A big boxer. Stupid and friendly and strong. That shits big.

dogs are great, but their owners (here, at least) here are not. I also have had a few run-ins with dogs on my bike.. I don't feel like breaking my neck because some dickhead can't keep an eye on his dog.

I don't undertand why they don't just enforce some rules here.. for instance, in Central Park you can have your dog off-leash before 9 am and after 6 pm.. it might be a bit strict, so they should have dog-specific areas where they can all play, but no dog-runs made of tiny pebbles please, those smell like absolute hell.

Oh, and if you leave their shit behind it's a big bastard of a fine.

Remember the old way of training animals? If they had an accident indoors you rubbed there noses in it?

Owner lets dog off lead, dog craps in public place, owner ignores, law enforcers grab owner... Well I think you know where I am going with this.

Will probably stop them doing it again

When I lived outside of Milwaukee, dogs weren't allowed in the parks there at all, unless it was a specified "dog park," of which I think there was one in the entire city. And even there they had to be on-leash all the time.

I thought that was a bit extreme, though. I think they did it because a lot of people were getting rottweillers and German shepherds to make the owners look tough, and then not training them.

Sorry, no poll. Can one of the old-timers help us out? Thx.

@brokenm - well aware, but they don't get around as much or go as far, and the spoiled ones are carried most of the time.

I can't tell you how many times a German has pointed out or mentioned that they feel keeping a dog on a leash is unfair to the dog. One neighbor told me that person had actually cut the leash of another person's dog because they felt it shouldn't be on a leash. Sure, there are laws, but the Germans don't feel they are ones that should be enforced because it's unfair to the dog.

well, if that's the way they really feel than dogs shouldn't have owners at all or have to listen to commands and obey. Keeping a dog on a leash is the only way to protect their safety and the safety of other people until they are well-trained enough to listen, come, and heal or stay.. even then they could freak out on someone.. or eat poison

Canine, heal thyself.

not quite sure about point 1, though I agree with you on point 2; some dog owners don't give a toss about clearing the dogshit up afterwards...it's disgusting, and dangerous too! I've heard about kids being blinded after coming into contact with dogshit, point 3 is bullshit, as is point 4; I don't own a dog, nor do any of my friends or family here, hardly 'everyone' then.

I totally agree with the leash bit. Mine is always on a leash and big dogs off leash are always coming up to him to see what he is, scaring the hell out of the little bugger. Pisses me off royally. I was training the mini-pup off leash in Golden Gate park and a lab came over to check him out, so he ran off toward home and out into a one way, 3 laned street with timed lights. By the grace of God he made it. poor little 6 month pup shat himself too he was so scared. Always been on a leash ever since.

One dog owner I saw recently started shouting his head off about me having a big dog on a lead. Turned out to a good guy, and actually I think he wanted my big dog to "teach" his pups to submit, because he'd been having a few dominance problems apparently.
I've had many more complaints about letting the hound stroll alongside me without a lead though. People have actually come out of their houses to chastise me for letting a German Shepherd loose. I can understand it, some people don't like dogs. I let him off in the woods every day, but around people, I keep the lead on, for their peace of mind. I had him on the lead at GMs last sunday though, and he got bored and ate most of it. oops.

Fook'em Don - let the hound run. That was what he was built for.

You of course would be liable if he savaged a child, but we can't all worry about "possibilities". We'd never walk out the door of a morning t'otherwise.

Like The Don said, the lead is there for other people's peace of mind. If you need a lead to control your dog you haven't trained them properly.

A dog is like a well designed fighter jet - instability is built in - keeps em dangerous.

My mum's little mutt bitch runs up to an hour with me when I am back in London. We go over Hampstead Heath. She really is the only London memory that brings a lump to my throat.

Have you noticed the pure unadulterated joy a dog experiences when it just . . . runs? Ears flopping, tongue lolling out. God I miss that bitch.

"Im Jahr 1985 in München gegründet, ist das Deutsche Tierhilfswerk e.V. (DTHW) mit seinen 210.000 Mitgliedern eine der mitgliederstärksten Tierschutzorganisationen seiner Art."

"Wer etwas erreichen will, muss gemeinsam mit Anderen handeln. Deshalb haben sich 50.000 Menschen in Deutschland im Kinderschutzbund zusammengetan."

So the Animal and Environment Protection Association has 210,000 members. The Deutscher Kinderschutzbund (Child Protection Association) has 50,000. No wonder kids aren't allowed to play ball but dogs may merde up the parks.

people make light of it, but children are looked down upon whereas dogs are held in high esteem.

I find dog ownership absurd.

Absurd? How so?
I find the thought of having a child absurd, I suppose. But only personally, I don't begrudge anyone else the joys of having mini-me's running around.

Wrong, disgusting is poisoning animals. A dog splashing on you or running into you is simply inconvenient.

I'm tired of dog-haters. There is no leash-law in Munich, end of story.

Edit: Obviously there are places where you can't take a dog, for example to playgrounds or in the English Gardens when the sheep are out - there dogs have to be on leash. I have no problem with this at all.

I think it's partially a sign of the times - people are waiting longer to have children mainly due to financial reasons, but still desire the affection and ability to care for something that relies on you (and unconditionally loves you, in the case of the dog).

There are absurd dog owners and absurd parents. Dog ownership is about as absurd as parenthood.

btw, in a few posts back, I didn't mean "you" specifically or mean to threaten you, but rather you as in "a person" who would do so, which maybe I should have used (or perhaps just not posted at all after a night out). sorry.

Absurd to own a dog? Cannot come close to riding up and down a hill REPEATEDLY. Thats fucking seriously absurd.


Do you also find yourself washing your hands 16 times a day, or flicking the light switch on and off 24 times before leaving a room?

Yes there is, in the English Garden, except for dedicated areas. It's just that most dog owners don't give a damn. There is also a difference between a dog-hater and being in favour of a leash-law.

Dog ownership can be absurd, but doesn't have to be – it obviously depends on the owner. I don't like dogs running loose in the streets, e.g. sometimes they'll go chasing after a cyclist or jogger for no apparent reason, or chase another dog and start fighting and the like, and I don't know how often I've had to stop or swerve around a loose dog on a cycle path. In dedicated areas in parks, fine, let them run. Should be a fair compromise.

Munich is a city in which dog owners have substantial freedom. Dogs are even allowed in restaurants - which I don't like. In several German communities (I think Leipzig is one) there is a law that says all dogs on public streets/sidewalks must be on a leash no longer than 1m, and there is a severe fine to ensure it's followed.

Please note my edit. Of course there are places in the English Gardens where dogs need to be on leash, including the Biergärten etc. Most places (especially in the north where there are less people) dogs can run free, though.

So you have to swerve for dogs sometimes when you're on your bike. Sometimes you have to swerve when a kid runs in front of your bike. Worse things have happened.

if you are referring to OCD, no I am lucky enough not to have OCD. But I know people who do and it is truely a miserable affliction

I keep reading the title to this thread as "God owners beware! Psioni found in English Garden".

I hate those examples..a friend of a friend of a friend has this horrible problem..therefore I am closer to the sadness of it as I have this connection.

A friend of a friend of mine is a right pain in the ringpiece. I can relate.

Yes, but my point was that although they should be on a leash, most of them are not.

Yes, worse things have happened than a dog blocking a cycle path, but my point here is that there are worse things than putting a dog on a leash when going for walkies on a public sidewalk.

Nah, I'm going to go and hang around with 20 year old boys down the park.

perhaps in your experince but quite a sweeping generalization I'd say.
I don't look down on kids OR dogs. (well physically I do cuz I'm 6'2")

On a sideline: In Vienna, dogs are not allowed on public transport without a leash and muzzle; we saw the guards turning back a dog owner whose dog didn't have the equipment.

You're supposed to have a lead and a muzzle on a dog when you use a DB train here but I've only been asked to do this once.

Whatever?

Never had a dog, have you?

Here's what I do/have done. My dog went to doggie school and is trained. He stays on a leash whenever in public, except when we are in an open area (farmlands, woods, etc.) and is NEVER allowed to be off the leash anywhere else. Dogs have a brain the size of a walnut, and although mine is the gentlest, nicest dog there is, I do not think he is smart enough to look both ways for traffic when a squirrel decides to dart across in front of him or when another, unleashed dog decides to attack him (which has happened numerous times, I just attack the dickhead owner).

If in a rare case my dog decides to poop where he shouldn't, I ALWAYS have two of those special plastic bags in my pocket. No problem.

It's all about RESPONSIBILITY my friends. This also applies to my kids. They are polite, play nicely with others, share their toys in the sandbox, etc. Not like these sociopathic children I see everywhere, whose parents don't care what they do and never watch them.

Basically most of the human race has deteriorated into a group self-absorbed, uncaring, belligerent, violence-prone, finger-pointing whiny assholes who have no social skills or give a rat's ass about ANYthing.

Those who would poison the animals for the irresponsibility of their owners are the scum of the Earth. And I am going to find out how to crush these bastards who have the anti-dog group and website.

@ami58

No I've never had a dog, that whole bestiality thing doesn't do it for me.

However we always kept dogs at home, Jack Russels, a Border collie and various mongrels. Some trained, most not.

Current dog is a retriever/pointer. If I tell her to heel she heels. She won't run across the road after a squirrel and she will have a serious problem with another dog attacking her unless I tell her to go.

I try to be responsible about it. I don't let my dog run up to joggers, cyclists, kids, old people or anybody that looks like they don't need the attention of a smelly hairy and usually wet animal who expresses joy by running around like a lunatic.

My point: the lead is the last resort, if you can't control your dog using the tone of your voice and the correct command then you weren't watching what was happening.

Poisoning animals! Humans are disgusting! Have they by now found the criminals who do this kind of thing? Does anybody know?

Amen Ami58 I am soooo with you.

What is this, 5th grade? I thought there were adults here.

What is this, the interweb ?

Never been in the 5th grade.

It was an attempt at humour.

Keep 'em coming. Its a numbers thing.

You have to be kidding me! What's wrong with dogs being allowed to run free? How about not wanting to be sniffed and licked by "a member of YOUR family?!

There is a reason why the leash laws are in place around the world (probably even in the country you come from). One of the reasons I like Germany is the fact that most laws are actually enforced. And yes, even the "silly ones" like against jay walking and ridding your bike in the wrong direction...
Maybe not being so self-absorbed and self-righteous (as people tend to be in countries like the US) would help you enjoy your life in a foreign land a little better...

LOL On the other hand, you could just let your dog shit in the living room and totally avoid the threat poison...

If you had a labrador or a boxer I'd be only too glad if he ran up to me, bowled me over, and licked me.

Christ I might even nick him and take him home!

Well, I agree about a Lab, but about a Boxer... Too much saliva

I got one of them cheap Siemens handys. The S55. One of the screen savers is a Boxer's face. Big old ugly one with huge jowels. I pretend its my dog back home. I show it to people and they believe me.

I need help.

Only problem I had when dog sitting here was the fighting. Having only had experience of bitches before I didn´t realise how aggressive male dogs are with each other, strangely enough, only when both on the lead, although he did run up to a fighting breed in the park from behind and the other dog went mad, I thought mine was dead but it always looks worse than it is, he came away better off actually, just a hole in his ear.

Even small dogs like to have a go, turn a corner and there´s a handbag sized thing which just explodes, big black doggie gets a chunk of its fur before we can separate them, again, no real harm done, both just shrugged and smiled.

On the shitting front, he was trained to go in the bushes, and mostly I took him to the woods anyway, plus also the parks are small here, never far for him to go ´off road´.

By far the worst I´ve seen was when I was up in Aachen, staying in a less salubrious part of town, no greenery at all, so the pavements were covered in it. Getting to work was an exercise in looking at your every step.

What I hate about Germans, is the fact the catagories all dog owners by their seemingly own standards!
I have the most gorgeous standard poodle (you can see him in my profile- he is a handsome boy- and not with a silly haircut either). I always have poo bags and always pick up Jacob's poo, I have had people stand over me watching me do it as if to make sure I am doing it, yet I am sorry to say it but the Germans are the ones who I have repeatedly watched just walk away and leave after there dog has had a poo. I mean it's not the nicest job in the world but when you take on the responsability of a dog then you take on the responsibilty of it's poo too.
I am lucky enough to live near the pinakotheke museums(Theresienstr) where dog are allowed to run free. Just in case any dog owners out there are looking for a new venue as the Englisch gardens are a no no at the mo!
Sick Bastards. I can't understand why anyone would do such a horrible thing to such innocent beings, it's not the dogs fault that the poo is left, it's the owners.
I know not everyone likes dogs but dog owners have to respect the wishes of non dog owners, so non dog owners must also respect that a lot of us love the pooches and will continue to have them...

perhaps the locals are "watching over you" as you pick-up the dog poo because they are wondering "what are you doing?"