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Average wages for nannies and au pairs

Info on the usual rates of pay for a nanny

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HighLife
Hey I know this sounds rude, but I have to ask for my own well being. If there are any nanny/aupairs (native english speaking) out there that could share what they're making per month and what their jobs involve, I'd appreciate it. I feel as if i'm unjustly and unfairly underpaid, and before I approach my employers I'd like some more evidence supporting my claim. Thanks to all!
eurovol
Mywife was an au pair in the states. She had the same problem and mostly it was because she didn't talk to her family. There are stated rules in an au pair contract. If you don't have one, then your a private nanny. Payment varies on responsibility and duties, living conditions, food, etc..
Showem
Well, the thing about au pairing is that you aren't really supposed to be "paid" per se, you are given pocket money, on top of being given room and board. I could tell you what I made 10 years ago, but I don't really think it's relevant anymore.
profundo
Setting the ground rules with your nanny

This site is for people hiring nannies but you get some good insight as to what the rules 'should' be. If your nanny job is not meeting your expectations you might think about getting another one. The problem there is the emotional impact that jumping in and out of kids lives might cause, but if it is bad enough that you believe that you are taken advantage of then say something.
margret
Another way is to go applying for nanny jobs now. That way you have real good arguments, when you go negotiating with the family. You have more leverage. Munich is expensive, and this should be reflected in your pay.

I personally know of a familiy who sent their children's nanny to the Goethe Institute and even arranges things so she can go to Munich's LMU University. There is good situations to be had in Munich. Shop around.
BeautyIsTheBeast
I was an aupair in Munich last year tho Im not a native english speaker but I speak fluent English. My main task was to take care of the child, take her/ pick her up from school be with her entertain her til her parents came home and of course light housework (usually just cleaning the dishes and cleaning my own room and bathroom) I got paid 220 Euro/month plus insurance and the monthly ticket

The working hours is usually 5 hours a day 6 days a week or 6 hours a day 5 days a week and 2-3 evening babysitting and the public holiday is also your holiday
dotchi
I just started working as an au pair in Munich and I earn 65 euros a week, plus a monthly ticket and ten euros worth of phone calls a month. For this I look after just the one little boy from about lunchtime till about 6pm every weekday and one nights babysitting a week. smile.gif
BadDoggie
Nannies run €7-10/hr.

woof.
Darkknight
Nannies or AuPairs 260-500 Eur Per Month
Jules Winnfield
Can anyone tell me what the right compensation is for an au pair? Room, board, both plus a monthly salary? I have no clue and was wondering if someone could give me some pointers please. Thanks.

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CanadianGal
The law is a minimum of 260 euros pocket money per month, plus insurance and transportation costs, as well as providing a decent room.
CanadianGal
Oh and language school fees as well. (VHS is the most common)
Minna
It's actually not always required that the host family pay for the language courses themselves. It's only required that they give the au pair the opportunity to attend language classes. However, since most families that have au pairs are loaded, they offer to pay for language courses as an incentive to work for them. Also, some agencies require the family pay for language courses, it is optional for others.
Also, although transportation costs and insurance must be provided, some people only receive the bare minimum. For example, you may find yourself with a bus ticket only good after 15:00, and only insurance for emergency medical care. Make sure you check what the specifics.
PES
QUOTE (Minna @ Mar 11 2008, 5:05 pm) *
For example, you may find yourself with a bus ticket only good after 15:00, and only insurance for emergency medical care. Make sure you check what the specifics.

Jules is looking for an Au Pair (and is likely loaded tongue.gif ).
cabbagefairy
If you are looking to hire an aupair it is better to pay over the bare minimum as that really is a silly amount. I got paid 100 euros a week, my first language course and basic insurance (although I actually think they took that out of my pay :S )

To have a good relationship with the aupair you should be paying between 300-400 euros a month, covering a monthly transport pass and insurance. Paying for the language course is also a nice extra. Another thing that would of been nice is for the family to cover cellphone calls to the parents, drove me crazy always having to call them back for things and being charged for it.
ezied
yep its 260 euro min, that what most people do. plus transport and insurance.
there are a few rules about the size of he room and such. but details are on www.aupair-world.com
globalgirl
The law used to state a maximum salary in germany of €200 a few years ago, as it was not ment to be for more than a year long cultural exchange type thing. Which is why I ended up picking another country where they didn't have this restriction so I could earn a bit more. Although there were some families that would pay a bit more and because it was in cash they wouldn't have to declare the full amount to the government.

I know a lot of families choose and aupair instead of a nanny due to money restraints, €100/week for on call childcare 24 hours a day is not that expensive. I was recently making over €10/hour just babysitting after school a couple days a week (including a cook making dinner for me and the kids)
Showem
One thing I had when au-pairing that I really appreciated was a weekly schedule of when I was working. I had my hours laid out for me, including the nights I was expected to babysit. I was never on call 24 hours a day, like globalgirl suggests or like others I know were. It offered a lot more peace of mind and freedom than a few extra Euros a week did.
YorkshireLad6
QUOTE (CanadianGal @ Mar 11 2008, 3:53 pm) *
The law is a minimum of 260 euros pocket money per month, plus insurance and transportation costs, as well as providing a decent room.

QUOTE (ezied @ Mar 12 2008, 1:29 am) *
yep its 260 euro min, that what most people do. plus transport and insurance.

It's not a minimum, it's the maximum (and typical) allowable pocket money, increased from €205 in 2006. If an au-pair is paid any more (at least officially) then they have to enter into a formal employment agreement with the family which involves a lot of paperwork, additional costs (tax and social insurance) and possibly a different form of residence permit for non-EU nationals. "Theoretical" maximum hours is 6 hours per day, 30 hours per week, plus 2 days paid holiday for every month worked
cabbagefairy
Bullshit. It's a minimum of 260 euros a month as of 1st January 2006, prior to that it was 205. Anyone who would expect someone to look after their kids for 120hrs a month for less needs to think again. Actually people who pay their au pairs minimum for that amount of work are pretty tight.
YorkshireLad6
You didn't read my post. It's the maximum allowable pocket money without further formalities. Room and board on top. Au-pairing is not supposed to be a job where you earn money. It's a travel experience. If paid more then officially at least you become a child minder, where additional responsibilities, liabilities and most of all taxes apply. Let's say you consume about €15 of food and drink per day and that the value of a heated, furnished room with shared bathroom is about €300/month, then your effective "salary" is over €1000, which runs at about €8.50 an hour on the basis of a 120 hour month
CanadianGal
True, but I believe as cabbagefairy stated before 260 is the required pocket money to be paid. Obviously when you add in everything else the overall "salary" is much higher.
cabbagefairy
It is not. I got paid 400 euros a month allowance. Stated on a form handed over to the kvr as part of the forms for my aupair visa.
YorkshireLad6
€400 is the coincidental maximum salary for a mini-job with minimal formalities. Doesn't stop you being an "au-pair", nor does it affect your visa, but it does make your employment status somewhat different as it's no longer officially "pocket money" as intended formally and your hosts are considered as "Privathaushalte als Arbeitgeber".
cabbagefairy
I can't because the visa states you are not allowed to earn wages. It has to be considered pocket money. I also know a guy who earned over 400 euros so it's nothing to do with minijobs, although they might not have stated how much they were paying him.
kritzykins
I was working crazy hours for €450 a month. It was suppose to be 37 hours a week but it never was. Usually about 50+ and I only had sundazys off. In a little village with no transport that is hard. I used to start at 6.30am and often work through (with usually a couple of hours break but sometimes nothing) untill 8pm. It was horrendous for other reasons too.

This however is NOT NORMAL and I wish that I had changed families earlier. I moved in a couple of days ago with a family that pay €260 a month and expect 6 hours a day with far easier kids. That is normal.

You should also be health insured and you should never pay for board/food etc.

I hope this helps.
eurovol
QUOTE (cabbagefairy @ Mar 11 2008, 8:36 pm) *
To have a good relationship with the aupair you should be paying between 300-400 euros a month, covering a monthly transport pass and insurance. Paying for the language course is also a nice extra. Another thing that would of been nice is for the family to cover cellphone calls to the parents, drove me crazy always having to call them back for things and being charged for it.

You mean bribing the Au Pair to live up to their end of the bargain. We are currently looking for an Au Pair and that attitude would be an immediate disqualification. Oh, we will give a lot of extras, but unreasonable expectations on either side is a recipe for disaster. That attitude says "I am looking for an employer and not a host family". An Au Pair is not a nanny which is closer to a TagesMutti, but if we were going that route we would probably hire a TagesOmi. However, we want to be a host family. It is a tradition in my family to be a host family. We are still close to people we have hosted since the early '70s. You don't get that when you are simply reduced to being an employer.
mere
the most that i've heard aupairs generally being paid is abotu 400 so anywhere from the minimum to 400. (obviously you can pay more, but factor in you're also paying room and board)

Eurovol- bribing the aupair no, but paying better probably ensures you get better work. also, if you want more of a host family thing then get an exchange student. Everyone is different, but from the aupairs i've met age matters a lot (yes, exceptions and i don't mean to generalize, but this is my experience) the younger ones will want to party more. The older won't. The older might also want to be paid more.

Some families pay for transportation either a monthly ticket or whatever. Some also pay for the airfare there and back.
anna.trent
Hi there,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea what the average payrate for nannying work is in Munich. I have been offered a job working 27-33 hours per week (1child) and the pay would be a flat rate of 250 euros per week. I would greatly appreciate any feedback as to what others think of this and what their experiences have been.

Cheers
Anna

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mix_twix
€250 per week?? That's more than some au pairs looking after several children get per month!

Haven't been one myself but if it is indeed per week then I say go for it...
Kay
QUOTE (mix_twix @ May 29 2008, 2:47 pm) *
€250 per week?? That's more than some au pairs looking after several children get per month!

Yes, but au pairs don't pay for room and board.
mix_twix
exactly, doesn't that make it even more of a steal?
kitkat64
No, it makes it more of a bad deal because she will have to pay for her room and board and transportation to and from herself.

Check out the 'Salary Guide' under the Felicity Nannies website. Live out nannies are making a lot more than that.
mix_twix
ooh I see now. So nannies have to pay for room and board? Well in that case, not so much of a steal. In any case, good luck with the job search smile.gif
Kay
QUOTE (mix_twix @ May 29 2008, 4:56 pm) *
So nannies have to pay for room and board?

A part-time nanny, like a babysitter, presumably doesn't live with the family (and even some full-time nannies live out).
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