Elfenstar
Oct 31 2005, 3:24 pm
does anyone have a good rule-of-thumb on how to use hyphens with prefixes? since i have a lot of german speakers who write english, i even get confused cause they throw them in everywhere. one uk collegue said the americans tend not use hyphens and the brits do, or was it the other way around? for example, which one is correct:
sub attributes
sub-attributes
subattributes
i have gone to the online chicago manual of style, but i was left more confused. 'course LEO & other online dictionaries only recognize "sub attributes", but i would never write it that way.
i have a helluva time trying to get developers to write "design time" as two words, but "runtime" as one and not use any hyphens.
Jeeves
Oct 31 2005, 3:28 pm
QUOTE
subattributes
is correct. The hyphen is totally unnecessary. And two words are simply wrong here (as you say, "sub" is a prefix).
It's a case-by-case case. But in general prefix+noun/adjective/adverb/verb makes one word. Hyphenation only necessary to avoid ambiguity and general confusion.
The case of "runtime" is not as simple as "run" is a noun/verb in its own right. That really is a case-by-case problem.
bonydebbie
Oct 31 2005, 3:36 pm
as jeeves states subattributes is right.
the Hypen is less used in US pratice. im in the communication dept and i have this trouble all the time. these rules are for UK english.
words with prefixes are often set as one word, but use a hyphen to avoid consufsion or mispronunciations, particularly where there is a collision of vowels or consonants. re-entry, de-ice, etc.
use a hyphen where a prefix is repeated (eg. re-release) or with another word (eg. re-form)
Elfenstar
Oct 31 2005, 3:47 pm
thank you. it's a helpful start.
Jeeves
Oct 31 2005, 3:49 pm
A "sub attribute" would be the attribute of a sub.
Debbie puts it much better.
"re-form" meaning "to form again" to distinguish from "reform" meaning "to reform"
Elfenstar
Oct 31 2005, 4:33 pm
QUOTE (Jeeves @ Oct 31 2005, 3:49 pm)

A "sub attribute" would be the attribute of a sub.
well i would say submarine, anyhow
QUOTE
Debbie puts it much better. "re-form" meaning "to form again" to distinguish from "reform" meaning "to reform"

i think i got it!
Iceberg Slim
Nov 2 2005, 12:52 pm
There is an ok
article in the
Wikipedia.
Tomasino
Mar 27 2006, 12:30 pm
Speaking of which, does anyone know which keyboard combo one uses to get the longer dashes?
Showem
Mar 27 2006, 12:35 pm
If in Word, it will happen automatically if you write the first word, leave a space, type a dash, leave a space, type the next word and add a space.
Tomasino
Mar 27 2006, 12:36 pm
Cool, thanks, beer.
Small Town Boy
Mar 27 2006, 12:56 pm
Usually, but sometimes it doesn't kick in, so you can create a shortcut. Go to Insert, Symbol, find the relevant symbol and then create a shortcut. But this only works within Word, I haven't worked out how you get the longer dash into emails or here on Toytown - and using that pathetic short one annoys me. (And is wrong.)
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