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Take care on Kaufingerstrasse!

Reinthaler Tiefbau are at work again

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pootle


This was Salamander the shoe shop on Kaufingerstrasse. It is currently under demolition by the same company who worked on the Sporthaus Schuster site.

Please take care as you walk past it.

Poots.
MonksTown
QUOTE (pootle @ Oct 21 2005, 1:34 pm) *
Currently its under demolition by the same company who worked on the Sporthaus Schuster.

ohmy.gif Wonder if the health and safety people have inspected the site yet.
Topsy
bleedin 'eck!
are they still letting those cowboys knock down city center property?
unbelievable
Mr.Mosh
I saw that yesterday and thought to myself "what the fuck are they thinking??".
It looks so dodgy, a couple of policemen were looking at the building shaking their heads too.
Sin
Shit! The city centre looked better in 1945 than it does now.
Editor Bob
For any readers who don't know the background to this, I should point out that there were three accidents involving falling masonry at the Sport Schuster site earlier this year. One of the accidents involved TT's very own Pootle (posting above) who subsequently spent a couple of weeks in intensive care with head injuries - now pretty much fully recovered, thankfully.

Unbelievable that the fence pictured above is so low. The fence currently surrounding the Sport Schuster site was previously the same height. With each subsequent accident the height was raised. It is now six or seven stories high - i.e. roof level.
grazzenger
are they really demolishing it in the open like that? holy crap!
SillyOldSlapper
Apart from the falling masonary, does anyone know if that demolition at Sport Schuster is going to plan? The car park at the back is really suffering from lack of space due to supporting brickwork underground, it makes me think there was an error and the whole place is collapsing. However, I know nothing about buildings, demolition or the like. All I know is - there is nowhere to park!
MonksTown
Seriously has anyone got onto the health and safety people and (justifiably) grassed these cowboys up over the low fence?
Gen
I just called the Baubehörde, they're not responsible for it. I just called the City of München, they're already closed for the weekend and the answering machine doesn't take messages (233000). Lawyer Hubby says it's the city who'd be responsible. I'm going to email the city and the SZ, TZ, AZ, Merkur, and ask if this is really true. Actually I have a friend who's a photographer at the Merkur, maybe he can go take a picture too.

Posted a comment at Minga. http://www.minga.de/archives/2005/08/passant_schwer.html

Email sent:
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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

Ich habe ein Foto gesehen von der Abrissstelle des alten Salamander-Ladens in der Kaufingerstr. mit einem sehr niedrigen Bauzaun. Der britische Passant, der ernsthafte Kopfverletzungen von der Abrissstelle Sport Schuster getragen hat, ist ein Freund von mir. Der Zaun um Sport Schuster musste zweimal erhöht werden, obwohl Abrissvorschriften wohl von vornherein eingehalten wurden. Ist bei Salamander irgendwie besser als bei Sport Schuster gewährleistet, daß da keine Passanten zu Schaden kommen? Sind die Zaunvorschriften eigentlich verschärft worden nach den Unfällen bei Sport Schuster?

Timestamp: 15:10
christine_4none
QUOTE (Gen @ Oct 21 2005, 5:04 pm) *
I just called the City of München, they're already closed for the weekend

already closed for the weekend..what the..what is it--their mother's bday?
Gen
christine, are you new to Germany? All kinds of things close at that time. I already got an answer from the city though:
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Sehr geehrte Frau Cory, vielen Dank für Ihre E-Mail.

Ihre Kritik und Sorge über die Baustelle beim Schuhhaus Salamander ist sicher berechtigt. Ich habe Ihre Anfrage direkt weitergeleitet, zuständig ist die Lokalbaukommission des Planungsreferates.
Das Servicetelefon der Lokalbaukommission erreichen Sie Montag bis Donnerstag von 9 bis 16 Uhr, am Freitag von 9 bis 14 Uhr unter

Tel:(089) 233 - 2 84 84

Herzliche Grüße

Bernd Plank

Very nice. He's forwarded the email to the Local Building Commission of the Planning Department. Vielen Dank Herr Plank!
MPIchaos
Reminds me of the classic Nurse With Wound album "Brained by Falling Masonry".
MonksTown
Herr Plank proving that Munich City Council are not a bunch of errrrm planks! biggrin.gif

Thanks to Herr Plank and to Gen.
It'll be interesing to see what happens.

Although the office is only open Mondy-Friday daytimes, I wonder if they have 24 hour emergency inspectors...Well we have a photo of how the fence was in case they suddenly raise it. ph34r.gif
sarabyrd
Wouldn't be the first time Gen was quoted in the Süddeutsche rolleyes.gif
Gen
nor the last if I have anything to say about it. I'm working on consolidating my political base. ARE YOU WITH ME!
Lupo
Way to make things happen!
MonksTown
QUOTE (Gen @ Oct 21 2005, 4:03 pm) *
ARE YOU WITH ME!

You go for it sister!

Vote Gen für Oberburgermeisterin!
UrbanAngel
Good work Gen! Keep us posted, and thanks for the warning Pootle, I'm very tempted to go spray paint their posters with something abusive, or hang up abusive banners.
Editor Bob
The company in question is:

Reinthaler Tiefbau GmbH
Lindwurmstrasse 29
80337 München
Tel. 089 532616

www.reinthaler-tiefbau.de

musikman
so what happened, what happened, it's been 4 days already...
meckle
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I'm very tempted to go spray paint their posters with something abusive

That doesn't sound like a good idea - something might fall on you !!
Gen
Haven't heard anything, but I don't get the paper every day, and I haven't been by the site to see if anything's changed... has anyone else been by?
pootle
I walked pass today, but forgot to take my camera.

They have errected a semi permanent barrier much further out in Kaufingerstr. but its only the same I would guess, maybe half a meter taller

P
canuck
biked by the site a few days ago and saw a few police officers stationed out front. Looked like they were trying to keep people back from the wall/site.
siobhan_prawn
ummmmm oh my life! i didnt know sport schuster had been injuring other people too! Just found this thread... am a bit of a newbie to this site!

i was in there on Oktober 1st trying to buy some trainers... and a whole shoe rack i was standing by fell off the wall on to my head! Some german ladies were very nice to me after though!

It just led to ineresting dr visits and faffing about with insurance etc... they have to pay for my physio etc (sprained neck muscles!)
The insurance people have also renamed me "Herr Stobhan" instead of Frau "Siobhan " for some inexplicable reason. i was a bit amused

Obv is nothing though compared to poor guy with the rock... blink.gif

Nobody go near that shop! Does anyone want my compensation voucher? heh. unsure.gif
Grinner
Unbelievable...
sarabyrd
@ siobhan prawn: Order online biggrin.gif
sarabyrd
The Süddeutsche Zeitung ran a story about the construction sites in the pedestian zone today with a picture of what Pootle's accident site looks like now. He is mentioned in the article as well (as the guy who got his skull fractured). The file of the picture is too large for an attachment; basically, the whole construction site is encased in heavy plastic sheets which are held in place by horizontal beams attached to the buildings across the way.
Tim Hortons Man
I can't believe that Germans who regulate everything would let the company get away with that. I mean I couldn't buy new rims without having them Tüv'd for god's sake!
bubblylady
They have permission to do that and they only work at nights from 22:00 till 7:00 am in the morning. Even at the week end. Yes it's far too loud and no, there is nothing we can do. The health and saftey authority is informed but can't do anything about it. When they work they close the whole area and we can't come to our house anymore but have to wait at the gate to have some worker accompanying us. There is no way to get home from Kaufingerstrasse, so we actually have to walk around the block. We are still in negotiations about rent deduction as it is not possible to sleep there right now. I can see the crane from my bed (Literally 10 m away, quite scary). The whole house is shaking. We can't open the windows as the dust is so bad and I'm sure not healthy at all. We started to sleep in the living room which is on the other side of the house, u still can hear the noise but it's kinda bearable.
It will still take them another 2 weeks, maybe more to demolish the house left alone to build the new one afterwards.
They have to work at night as there were injuries. When I talk to the authorities they told me everything about poor poots (without mentioning names) As it is too busy during the day, they will buíld the whole construction during nights.
Kza
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They have permission to do that and they only work at nights from 22:00 till 7:00 am in the morning

Really? When its cold, slippery and dark? Seems a bit counter productive to me, in the sense that its merely shifting the danger from the general public to the workers. I guess theres probably something in the employee contracts that makes it easier for the company to deal with an injured worker than a member of the public.
don_riina
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Really? When its cold, slippery and dark? Seems a bit counter productive to me, in the sense that its merely shifting the danger from the general public to the workers.

Well, the general public are not often well trained in the jedi arts, and cannot predict a piece of building falling onto their heads, but workers are generally trained to do their jobs. And they get paid. And they have invented artificial lighting. And its often cold and slippery in the daytime too BTW
Hazza
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They have to work at night as there were injuries.

This surely reduces the chance of injury as there are fewer people around, but surely doesn't eliminate the risk totally. Some unlucky person walking home from Kilians in the early hours could still conceivably get hit.

That's pretty unacceptable...
6784kqe
on a related topic, has anyone seen the massive poster on the building site near Marienplatz ? It's a big advertisiment for apple. It's well cool.

as for the building sites, I just try to stay away from them full stop.
Grinner
QUOTE (Hazza @ Nov 9 2005, 1:12 pm) *
This surely reduces the chance of injury as there are fewer people around, but surely doesn't eliminate the risk totally. Some unlucky person walking home from Kilians in the early hours could still conceivably get hit.

That's pretty unacceptable...

Where as if they went to The Arc for a drink they would avoid this potential danger... Eh Hazza? ph34r.gif
sarabyrd
QUOTE (Grinner @ Nov 9 2005, 12:08 pm) *
Where as if they went to The Arc for a drink they would avoid this potential danger... Eh Hazza?

Not so sure, the street outside was quite a pit-fall last Saturday, and it wasn't due to the delicious, cold and refreshing beer which is always served with impressing promptitude and a cheery smile (what about a freebie for that, Hazza? smile.gif )
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