Should women be allowed to smoke?

I saw a woman smoking today. Looked awful.

Does not make them look sophisticated at all. I think they should be forbidden from smoking.

Now when it comes to the men, I think we look cool with a cigarette in our hands. It does look decidedly "Marlboro country" to smoke if you are male. As a non smoker myself I have been thinking of taking up the hobby. Perhaps a couple of nicotine tabs on the arm here and there to start with then a couple of low tar a day then progress to the better cigarettes.

Advice would be appreciated.

yer mad! i wish i could hoof the tabs but your thread has now got me thinking about going for one, git! (but they do make men look cool and sofisticatit like!)

that's better. christ, i only came online to have a quick scan through the posts at 10pm and it's 1:30am now. this site is more chuffing addictive than the tabs.

I smoke and I hate it. I hate the way my clothes smell and my breath stinks but it relaxes me like nothing else

but it is our choice-- not yours

You want to ban women from smoking because it doesnt look good?? Here is the deal...if a woman is smoking, and you dont like it, dont ask her out. Its very simple. (coming from a woman who smokes)

I thought I was going to open this and see all the medical reasons women should be banned from smoking. Like ...

Smoking, in fact, takes a greater toll on the health of women than men; a smoking woman loses, on average, 14.5 years of her life while a smoking man loses just over 13 years.

Today, more women die each year from lung cancer than breast cancer, uterine cancer, and ovarian cancers combined.

Smoking doubles the risk of having a heart attack, and increases the risk of dying from a heart attack within the first hour. This is an especially serious problem for women since women are more likely to die after a first heart attack than men.

Smoking also increases a woman's risk of low bone density and osteoporosis.

Smoking can cause infertility in women (and lowers sperm count in men). If a woman becomes pregnant, smoking increases her risk of miscarriages, stillbirths and premature births.

and just for you men who look cool smoking

Living with a smoker can also be deadly for adults, especially women. Indeed, more women than men die as a result of second-hand smoke induced lung cancer and heart disease.

Women and Smoking

(I do smoke so Im not trying to lecture...but if your going to tell me to quit better come up with a better line than you look like shit when you do it)

The one thing I do not like is someone telling someone what to do. If women,men,blacks,whites,sheeps,goats want to smoke..I say go for it. Jeremy I thought you were an artist.

WTF? Should Jeremy be allowed to post at 1 am after drinking red wine?

Some hysterical replies to a tongue in cheek post. Again.

Cigarettes are fabulous!

has anyone invented a way of injecting cigarettes?

rectally??

mines a bit over the top...probably comes from not being about to have a cig since Friday...feeling very

women that smoke should be respected. the health benefits of cigarettes are actually quite encouraging but the anti smoking lobby dont like to publicise it.

Or a horse. Refer to Marlboro (Montana) ad.

Ow! Just removed my tongue back out of my cheekl!

I am not a smoker, never will be, hate it and will strongly discourage my children from the habit. Funnily enough to be serious for a minute, it actually IS bad for a woman to smoke. Especially during pregnancy.

BTW is also looks ridiculous on men too, for the record.

Many newbies to TT won't know when I was on TT in the office I used to come up with "wind up" posts, but they were never serious enought o earn me the "troll" name!

pffffffff amateur.

I don't think there's anything sexy on men or women, about smoking...would never try to stop anyone smoking though.
as a non-smoker I find it IS horrid snogging someone who smokes though...boyfie's a non-smoker like me though so it's all good!

do get annoyed when smokers hold their cigarettes away from themselves (to the side or over their shoulders) so the smoke isn't going over them rather it's billowing over me and making me ming.
or if someone in front of me on an escalator sparks up the smoke just goes behind em and onto me. then I do the old dramatic cough and theatrical glare.

wot's sexy about cancer-sticks.

that escalator thing is so true
smokers don't realise that the whole flippin escalator gets a lungful of nasty smoke as well

why are you complaining its free!!!

As it happens when I first met her indoors in London back in the last century she was a smoker. We went out on a few dates, started getting it on etc. I did however inform her as politely as possible that "I do not go out with girls that smoke, so if this is going beyond casual sex you will need to stop". Sounds like an arrogant ultimatum now, but was just a simple fact for me.

She made the wrong decision, gave up, and is stuck with me. But I think she does at least appreciate having given up the smoking. It really is a hideous habit people, and like swearing, goes worse with the fairer sex.

Arnie-I-am-not-a-Nazi shows how it should be done:

Have licked an ashtray twice and swore never again. Admittedly, I could have a one-night stand with a smoker, but a relationsip with one would never work because it stinks and it says something about the person's personality that they do it despite the fact that it is unhealthy and smells like shit. As if it really looks cool! Not!

I personally am shifting my support over to a total public ban on smoking. Jus cos its in smoking out in the open, I've lost count the number of times I've been walking behind a smoker and got a lungfull of their cigarette smoke!!

Litter!!

What I find quite sad and I am sure everyone else sees it too, is when you are waiting for a tram at a stop, most smokers will try to get a quick fag in before it arrives or they take the last drag, put out the cigarette on the floor...littering!!! and then wait till they are on the tram before they exhale the smoke!! Or when getting off at a U-Bahn stop, they cant wait the 1 minute it will take to get off the platform before lighting up again. As this is a 'Jeremy' thread, I'll add 'What the hell' is up with that?

Litter!!

As for banning it in Bars/Clubs, well that should be left up to the individual owners, all they need to do is to show on the doors if it is a smoking or non-smoking place.

Oh and the littering really pisses me off.
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finally a bit of sense from you

i was hearing of a guy in london who smokes and in his local area there are 5 pubs - 3 non smoking and 2 smoking. therefore there is a choice. a total ban would give NO choice. i agree with you that it should be up to the owners. well said.

This is contantly a problem with me. I move the cig smoke away from the non smoker next to me, just to hit the non smoker on the other side. Thats when I start flapping my hand about (which I have heard is really annoying) or stand up.

I completely get this one...when Im not smoking I hate the smell of it anywhere near me. Sounds rediculous but its true...

3 Lions - is it true you only smoke after sex?

(awaits answer before calling stockbroker to go long on British American Tobacco stocks)

first of all yes I smoke, and I hate the fact, I used to be competitive swimmer (Masters) for fuck's sake, and would do a straight 3km swim when I could not be bothered to train properly. Last week I stopped for a couple of days, and the difference it made when I went to the gym in terms of strength, stamina and recovery is horrifying.
It depends on the person, some women look damn hot when smoking and others urghhh, and i imagine the same is true of men.

Dunno how accurate this is:

The American Lung Association says that the damage done to your lungs is almost completely reversible in 15 years, although one should experience better lung function in as little as three months and near-complete recovery of lung function in less than a year.

We all do stuff that is bad for us, just smoking seems to me especially expensive, pointless, stinky and harmful. But in their defence most "mature" smokers (say over the age of 15!!) seem to wish they had never started and would like to give up if it was easy.

agree with 3Lions. The think I find most irritating with smokers is that they think its ok to chuck the stubs all over the place. They probably wouldn't do it with other litter but find it ok with fag ends

euhw...yukky cancered lung pic! [img]http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/scared/scared0018.gif[/img]

yeah...and dontcha just hate it when cars pull over, or while they're at the traffic lights, they open the door and lob out a load of ciggy butts onto the road.

(sorry I'm not anti-smoking or anything and think do actually believe 'each to his own')

My mate in the UK rides a motorbike, and wears an open face helmet. It ain't much fun if someone chucks a lighted fag in your path. If they chuck 'em at traffic lights he jumps off his bike, picks up the fag, knocks on their window and says "I think you seem to have dropped this???".

Not sure that approach would work over here. I can just see Helmut saying "No, I vanted to throw it avay".

To which I'd happily reply, "That's correct, well spotted."

Smoking is cool. FACT. However much people try and tell you it's not, it is and it's as simple as that. The coolest ever James Bond (played by Sean Connery), smoked like a chimney, gambled like a premiership footballer and drank like George Best - ergo drinking, gambling and smoking are all cool. QED.

at which point he then flicks the lighted tab onto the cloth seats of your Mitsubishi Wanker. (that is I believe the correct translation?)

No really. The Mitsubishi Pajero. See here:

Brand name differences between countries

What would have happened had she not stopped? You would have given up the love of your life because she's a smoker? Seems pretty shallow to me.

yerano! I work with a few Spanish people!
it's STILL funny when you see em round town!

I think its actually a case that all women should stop smoking before the age of thirty five, or they will look and sound like Dot Cotton, who in real life is actually 42.

Yup. That's me. Shallower than a puddle, and lower than a snake's belly. I just dont find permanent self-induced halitosis attractive.

I smoke then I give up then I smoke again. Would like to give up permenantly but finding it very difficult. It's not an overly pleasant habit the same as the lazy shits who drive their massive 4x4's 50 metres down the road to the shop because they can't be arsed to walk.

Therefore they should put more tax on cigaretts and petrol. That would put a few people off and certainly a lot of the Germans with their 'Geiz ist Geil' mentalities.

The only thing that would put me off giving up is if they banned smoking in all pubs and bars as I think that is wrong. I think it has to be the owners choice. Would be like the government saying no driving cars on Saturday and Sundays to cut down on pollution.

Talking of halitosis they should ban coffee as well. As a non coffee drinker it absolutely reeks on someones breath.

They usually do stop smokin' around then.

@JE, it's a Galloper actually so there [img]http://www.keydeck.com/smilies/moon.gif[/img]

Fair point. Smoking speaks volumes about how much a person values their health and respects their body.

Totally disagree - you probably start when you're quite young, and then you're hooked - no matter how much you value your health, it's a bastard hard habit to break.

Actually I must concede on that point. Alcohol on the breath, when you haven't been drinking yourself can also be pretty grim, along with spicy foods as well.

So we all need to give up smoking, curry, and alcohol.

jeesus.

as a confirmed cigar smoker, beer lover and curry lover i'm starting to worry about this thread.

maybe ttm is only for health loving berg wanderers who occasionally ( very naughitily ) indulge in a spot of kaffee and küchen on a dry sunday ??

Not true, as with maintaining an an exercise routine or sticking with a healthy diet if you want it badly enough you CAN do it. I'm fiercly addicted to smoking so this statement makes me a blatant hypocrit but there will come a time when I am motivated enough from within (not because some guy won't go out with me) to do it. If it ever comes down to it and I hope I've quit long before then, the very second another being starts to grow inside me, the cigarettes are gone. It's one thing to disrespect your own body but another entirely to effect the health of another with your own selfishness.

That being said I did quit once for a year and it was for a man. He had quit and started again so in my infinite stubborness I had to prove that I could do what he couldn't. He had the last laugh though as I started again soon after we broke up.

I wouldn't even look at a smoker. I find it so repulsive that I would automatically not be attracted to a man if he smokes. This has never happend to me (becoming attracted to a smoker), the moment they are within 1 meter away from me I can smell their sour, nicotine smell. Gross! I have a very strong sense of smell. Worst is doing sports in a small room with smokers..when they start sweating and you have to, say, do partner-training with them. Yuck! You smell the nicotine in their sweat as well, clings to their skin.

I especially like going to Italy nowadays. Smoking is not allowed in restaurants and pubs and it's working really well, even the smokers prefer it on average. The smokers all smoke outside and return to their tables after getting their fix. The air is clean, you don't have to have their second-hand-smoke-smell over your skin, long hair and clothes, you get to taste what you are eating and best of all, you don't get cancer from their second-hand smoking! It's such a pain in the arse going out in Germany, you put on fresh clothes, washed your hair, used your nicest perfume and then you enter a room with smokers. I can only say, bella Italia!