The legality of selling T-shirts at Oktoberfest

Hello everyone,

A group of friends and I are thinking of making and selling some T shirts for Oktoberfest. Does anyone out there know the legality, with regard to permits, of selling merchandise at these kind of events?

Also, what are the penalties like for using copyrighted images?

If anybody has any knowledge or experience with regard to this, we would appreciate any feedback you might have!

Thanks
Ambitious T shirt wanna be sellers

i should think you'd need a permit from the organisers to be able to sell anything on the grounds of the Wies'n.

And the name Oktober Fest, and the likes are probably protected.

Don`t even consider it you will get totally fucked over in court if they catch you at it.

email this guy, he makes and sells t-shirts at the oktoberfest every year. His profits go to charity, but he may be able to help you out with regard copyright issues.

http://www.dirtypierre.com

Normally he sells his t-shirts in aussie pubs rather than at the fest.

Forget it. You need a licence to sell anything on the site.

If your mates decide to make up 30 or 40 t-shirts to sell during the fest time, try and make them amusing and flog them in the irish pubs. They don't even need to mention the fest.

There are no permits given for sales other than from stands and inside the tents. Attempting to sell anything by walking around will cost you heavy fines and the merch will be confiscated even if you have a general street sales permit.

You're knowingly going to steal someone else's work/design and sell it? Thief. Massive penalties. Huge fines. And because it's intentional fraud, further fines and possible jail.

woof.

yep you need one, they are like gold dust and the chances of you getting one are as good as me wakeing up with a pair of lesbian kangaroos in iceland, possible but fairly remote. basicly your waiting for someone to die and pass it on or it be sold to you.
dont even go there. unless you think your very clever. there is someone on tt who copied the playboy logo for a uni thing, he can spin you the yarn on that one.

Selling stuff in the Irish Pubs would also require permission...

no idea about the legal consequences, but if he is designing his own T-shirt he is not stealing anybody's work. I have seen T-Shirts everywhere in town, even C&A so I think it's worth a try! (if it's legal) just find out what the story is with the guy from Wee Mun's link. I would welcome a T-shirt that is not as the usual Oktoberfest 2005 2006 2007 ones and a bit "special". Just don't use the official logo! And don't try to sell it in the tents! What about Ebay?

Good luck!

I guess you missed this part:
Intentional copyright infringement. Theft and fraud.

woof.

It s people like you that Copyright lawyers are born for.

If you don't know the law how do you expect to know the loopholes?

Get a street licence, stay far outside of the fair grounds and stay the fuck away from copyrighted images.

Excuse you?

I know the law rather well -- you apparently missed numerous posts of mine in which I've explained it. Having not only had graphics stolen (by the White House [you can only sue the US gov't if it agrees to let you sue it]), but entire articles and even the full contents of two Web sites, I am extremely familiar with copyright law, and not just the basic Berne Convention and the DMCA. I recently advised some friends in Iceland on dealing with some bastard in Japan stealing their copyrighted images and trademarked logos -- they had to work with the Japanese and Icelandic embassies for months.

There are no loopholes which allow jamie to steal someone else's design and sell it as -- or as part of -- his own. None. This isn't parody, it's outright theft as he himself made clear with his question about the penalties for doing so.

woof.