Need info about a murderer from Munich

Hello,

My name is Lisa Space and a very good friend of mine is dating a guy wanted by the München police.

I'm concerned he might be trying to take advantage of her. Please respond quickly, because she is planning to go see him. He told her that the München police are lying just to try and find him.

I tried search myself online for info or anything but its very hard for me because I only speak English. This is truly a life or death matter and I want to help me friend by showing her some kind of proof.

This is not a joke and I'm very concerned for my friend. Please can someone contact me to speak further about this matter.

Thanks for your time,

Lisa Space

** GERMAN BELOW **

Hallo,

Mein Name ist Lisa Raum und ein sehr guter Freund von mir datiert einen Kerl, der von der München Polizei gewünscht wird. Ich werde betroffen, daß er versuchen konnte, Nutzen aus ihr zu ziehen. Reagieren Sie bitte schnell, weil sie plant zu gehen sieht ihn. Er erklärte ihr, daß die München Polizei gerade liegt, um ihn zu versuchen und zu finden. Ich versuchte Suche selbst online für Info oder alles aber sein sehr hartes für mich, weil ich nur Englisch spreche. Dieses ist wirklich ein Leben, oder Todangelegenheit und ich möchten mir helfen Freund, indem sie ihr irgendeine Art Beweis zeigen. Dieses ist nicht ein Witz und ich bin für meinen Freund sehr beteiligt. Bitte treten Dose jemand mit mir in Verbindung, um über diese Angelegenheit weiter zu sprechen.

Dank während Ihrer Zeit,

Lisa Raum

So the guy is supposedly wanted for murder? PM me the name and I'll see if I can find something on the net. Shouldn't be too hard to find out. How does she know that he's wanted for murder anyway? The way you explain it is somewhat confusing!

Yeah Tom A is right (if this isn't a wind up/if it is then it is bloody sick!) we need the name either post it or PM it.
There is no point me looking without a name or at least more details of the alleged murder

Your post is very unclear. What exactly are you trying to find?

This page is the current Most Wanted people. Is that what you're looking for?

Wow, they even have it in English! Didn't know the police was so progressive!

First guy on the list.

He tenderized his wife and then stabbed her. He also has a price on his head of 5,000DM?

How do you know thats the right guy eurovol?
Deutsch Marks? And a time machine too presumably

I got the name via a PM.

Hello,

Yes that is the guy...but here is the thing. He is telling her that the police are lying just to try and find him for a different matter.

I want to know if there is a way to locate the news article on the murder. I dont know what year it was in. I would like to know if there is a name to his wife or anything that might help to show if its true or not.

Thanks

What "Spetim Bitiki"
Lisa shouldn't you phone the Polizei and let them know she is going to meet him so they can arrest him?

HAHAHA

I tried emailing them from their site, but am not sure if they are not answering back because I dont speak german.

If you check their site you will see a few people post about how one thinks its their boss or etc and they are joking about it.

So I think they might feel I'm just another fake person...but its true and I dont know what else to do.

Well, If the guy finds out he's posted here, he'll possibly feel threatened and put the girl in danger.

You guys should think about this this before indiscreetly posting his identity.

As far as the girl who made the original post. Darlin, you probably ought to go to the police right away. Don't worry, they speak english. Your call.

If this were another town, I might not advise going to the police, but like it or not, the cops in this town are pretty professional at what they do.

J

They specifically tell you NOT to email in urgent cases.
PHONE THEM NOW

It's not fuckin' tree surgery. If all is as you say then phone plod. There is no question and any discussion on the subject is nonsensical.

And here are the locations of the Police stations If your don't already know.
Munich Police Station Locations along with phone numbers other contact details.

I know it is a strange thought but how about using the good old telephone and calling them?

Even if the guy told her they want him for another reason, surely she would have to be pretty dumb to consider visiting him?

@Eurovol, are you sure this isn't a wind-up and this person got the name from the posted link and PM'd it to you?? I think most people who are panicking over such a situation would just call the cops and not consider email for an urgent response...

No, not sure at all.

Or just phone the number given on the site
Polizeipräsidium München
Kommissariat 323 - Zielfahndung
89 - 544300-212

Ok...but how willI know if the police are telling the truth or not...shouldnt there be a way to find the news story?

I never called out of state before, so how would I call the number?

I was not going to post here about this, but whatelse was I to do...I tried searching online first for anything but had alot of trouble reading german, so this was a last resort.

And we want a cut of the cash!!

Finger weg! I'm after that money.

For something like this, I'd believe the cops more than the "Supposedly wanted person"... This isn't the DDR ya know..

It doesn't matter if he's wanted for Murder or wanted for some other crime.. Bottom line HE'S STILL A WANTED PERSON...

Because this is Germany not some dodgy dictatorship perhaps.
If you are legitimate call the Polizei.
Its for them to decide if the info is relevant or not.

OK this is getting silly.

The guy is wanted for Murder. The police don't just make this shit up.

Call or don't call. It's up to you.

Guys look...I just want to find out if its true or not...the money is not an issue right now.

Shouldnt it be possible to find the news article or something if it did happen?

Date and place of crime?
He is still wanted and has money on his head. That sounds serious to me.

Why do you keep going on about the news article? Why would a news article be more credible than the official police website? Sorry, I just don't get it.

How the f**k is a news article going to put you in a position to second guess the info the Polizei have?
I'm starting to have serious doubts about you.
Either your very very stupid or this is a windup.
The Polizei have no interest in getting the wrong person for a crime.
If this is for real I hope they do you for withholding evidence, helping to conceal the whereabouts of a fugitive or something

This is funny. It's not your position to decide what is true or not. If you are genuine and your friend is genuine then simply show her the pic and call plod. Simple. You have two choices. Either do nothing and your friend can associate with someone wanted for murder or you can call the cops. Don't be a fucking idiot. The more you argue against calling the cops the more you sound like someone using a fake ID and creating a thread for your amusement.

And here's the "Most wanted" list from the BKA - LINK

It' appears that the 1st guy on the Munich Police site, is not just wanted by the munich cops, he's wanted by the "Feds" AKA BKA=German FBI

Here's the Info page (In English) and more current - LINK

I understand everyone view on this...but the only part I find hard to unnderstand is why I cant find a news article.

It is possible that the police might try and say this if they were trying to find him for something else that might be as serious but not murder...maybe if he part of some group...I dont know.

Its just weird that I cant find the name of his wife or an article.

Idiot or Troll?
You decide

This isn't the US, there doesn't have to always be a story in the paper for every crime commited.. WAKE THE F*CK UP AND CALL THE COPS!!!

@Darkknight- Wrong guy.
Her name is on her gravestone. What more do you want?

What the hell would you do with a news article anyway? It's not like you would understand the text in the article anyway.

Just to sum up:

- She's never met the guy
- He told her his name before meeting up, and says that he is wanted for murder, but that it's not true, and that in reality he is wanted for something else (something apparently unspecified)
- She is so in love with him (though she's never even met him!) that she decides to go and see him

Sorry, this is the weirdest story I've heard in a long time!

And probably only a co-incidence that good ole Spetim appears only twice in Google - once on the Police website and once on Toytown

What does eBob want with this guy?

Look why is it hard to understand that I just want to be able to know for sure if its a tue story or not. I know that no matter what if the police are writing this then it has to be serious...but I just want to see if I can find the truth or not.

I did write the police 2 times and have heard nothing back...it only takes a few sec to try and contact me, so why have they not?

I will try and give a call...but wish someone here would try and just see if there is a news article or not...thats all.

Thanks for all the help.

hmmm

I think she used Babelfish or something like that. The whole translation has a very automated sound to it. For example, the word "can" which was used as a verb in the English version, was translated into German as "Dose" which means "beverage container", though it should have been "können" as in "to be able to".

Hey Deco...your dumb...the reason it shows my last name different is from using the AltaVist Babel Fish Translation. When I had it translate my english into german is changed also my last name.

I did this so if someone who might not know english could still read it...thanks for your kind support anyways...god bless

Lisa

Yeah right...this sounds reallllll...

Taken from the Polizei website quote below

I have already pointed this out to you. Which part are you finding it difficult to understand?
It takes you a couple of seconds to ring them so why have you not ?

If I were you I would start praying he doesn't commit another crime while you are pissing about playing amatuer detective.
The phase "blood on your hands " mean anything to you

@fst2011
Where in the US are you?

Maybe he killed his wife back in Macedonia or wherever he's from and came to Germany to escape. Maybe you should go to Toytown Skopje and ask there for help finding articles.

heya, this is serious business. perhaps someone on the board should just call the police. i'm sure they'd be responsive and very interested in your information. as it was noted, the munich polizei are damn good at what they do and am certain they can track you down and get to the bottom of this.

so is it a matter of life and death or not.

ok...thanks for all the help. I didnt think me asking for some help would casue this kind of reaction.

I just thought that maybe the peoplehere would be better with idea's on what newspaper to contact or etc.

Thanks in advance,
Lisa