fletch
Aug 23 2005, 8:33 pm
Ok I am flying back to Dallas on Friday and I would like to take back some pony kegs for a bbq and would like to know if anyone has tried this before.
If so did you check them or carry on? Any issues?
Showem
Aug 23 2005, 8:36 pm
"Some"? You are willing to take more than one and risk getting taxed duty on it? Get one at the airport and take it as hand luggage in a plastic bag. 5L Lowenbrau available from duty free, they give you the bag for free, even double bagging if you like.
one51
Aug 23 2005, 8:44 pm
Eh, the duty can't be much. I'd just carry 2. Luggage might not be a great idea, one of them babies springs a leak and that's a lot of beer in your suitcase.
Usually US customs is pretty nice, tho I haven't flown into that airport. I never got bothered even when I had 5 or 6 bottles of liquor (and the max tax-free in my state is supposed to be 2).
edit: I saw Paulaner mini oktoberfest kegs on sale somewhere, either V-Markt or Tengelmans. Probably the former. I think it was under 10eur.
I flew a mini-keg from Munich-Frankfurt-Boston and then a few days later down to Houston. I documented the whole saga somewhere around here but its been removed. I took mine on as handcarry and it was fine. It got fondled a lot by security but it was fine. Showem's right you can buy them at the airport, though I'd recommend you bring an empty rolly bag. I declared mine and payed no taxes...it was under 10 euros...and I kept my receipts as proof of purchase value.
HugoBush
Aug 23 2005, 9:42 pm
depends on the US national alert level and how you "look" like
pheller
Aug 23 2005, 11:22 pm
QUOTE (one51 @ Aug 23 2005, 9:44 pm)
edit: I saw Paulaner mini oktoberfest kegs on sale somewhere, either V-Markt or Tengelmans. Probably the former. I think it was under 10eur.
I have seem a similar Paulaner Oktoberfest minikeg for sale at Superior Liquors in Louisville, CO.
So, it might pay to make a couple calls to liquor stores local to where you're going to save yourself the trouble, or at least identify what brand of beer to purchase, lest you show up with something that can already be bought stateside.
--phil
Lupo
Aug 24 2005, 7:30 am
Although I´d venture to say, a keg of Munich beer bought here in Munich vice in Colorado would be better tasting because beers meant to last are usually brewed differently, filtered and stabilized sharper, and pasteurized longer. Not to mention the unknown age of the beer found in the Colorado store and how it´s been stored (a beer can only take a certain amount of hot/cold temp changes before it´s negatively affected.) Fresh beer (after a certain age) is the best as opposed to wine. Generally all fresh beers are good, but the lesser quality ones fall out with time. Mistakes make themselves noticeable in e.g. precipitants, negative taste profiles, even biological infections (gasp!) etc. There are exceptions to the rule, these usually being smaller breweries with very good hygiene programs. I´d buy the keg here!
Hutcho
Aug 24 2005, 10:19 am
I took 3 kegs last time I went back to London.. 2 in my suitcase and 1 in hand luggage (I also took a couple of kilo's of bratwurst).. its obviously a bit different than going outside the EU and back to the States, but I had no problems..
I thought for sure they would ask to look at it when I got the hand luggage scanned in Munich, but they really didn't care..
meckle
Aug 24 2005, 10:20 am
QUOTE
depends on the US national alert level and how you "look" like
Yeah if you look middle-eastern and wear a turban I really wouldn't try this.
Lupo
Aug 24 2005, 10:51 am
They may be on the lookout for these guys as well:
hockeywidow
Oct 25 2005, 7:53 pm
My husband is getting ready to leave for Canada and I wanted to send my dad one of the mini kegs of beer. It would be packed in my husbands' bag on the plane, is it going to blow up?
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Is that his handbag or in the cargo hold?
hockeywidow
Oct 25 2005, 7:59 pm
cargo hold
no, but you should wrap them in plastic bags as they will be very cold and slightly wet.

ps: depending on where he is flying to, he should check his alcohol import allowance and keep his mini-keg receipts. the guys at the US customs were shocked that my christmas mini-keg was only circa 5euros.
Hutcho
Oct 25 2005, 9:45 pm
I have taken these kegs on a plane before, its fine..
A lot of people believe that the cargo hold of a plane is not presurised.. it is.. it is also heated, so the beer will certainly not freeze either..
I flew a pair on LH cargo about a month ago. They weren't frozen at all but they were definitely cold and a bit damp.
Darkknight
Oct 26 2005, 12:17 am
Hummm
As a person who used to do cargo loading on aircraft, I wouldn't advise putting the keg in the checked baggage (In the hold)...
Yes, some A/C hold are pressurized, and heated, but these are only the smaller ones (Either in the front or back of the main cargo deck)..
The reason for this is for live animal transport. The main cargo hold usually IS NOT pressurized/heated, as baggage isn't alive..
It all depends on the type of A/C and it's configuration.. But only 1 of the holds is used for animals thus pressurized / heated..
Remember kegs are also already under pressure...
benpanter
Oct 26 2005, 8:40 am
I can understand why it's not heated, but why would you put flat pressure walls/ceiling which will require strengthening round a massive area when you could just continue the cylindrical wall of the plane? I think you're wrong on this.
EDIT: It's not proof, but have a look at a selection of letters "Flying SRM cranks" from
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tec.../letters/may27c - as I thought, the heating is optional but the pressure is not.
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Flying SRM cranks #4
I can assure you that the cargo holds of any major airliner is pressurized at the same pressure as the passenger cabin. Taking the cranks off and carrying them on-board would not solve any issues other that those related to baggage handling. Also, because they may be used as a weapon, it is probable that they would be confiscated at the security screening. While not specifically on the list of banned items, they are large enough, and sharp enough to cause a TSA screener to find them objectionable.
With regards to the rules on deflation of tires, we most certainly DO understand physics. There are other things inside the cargo compartment than your bicycle and it's tires, and those things shift slightly in flight. There does exist the possibility of a puncture, and the sharp report from that could conceivably be heard in the cabin. The Flight Crew would then be required to investigate, etc., etc.
Stephen Hill
Senior Engineer - Cabin Systems
Delta Airlines
Wednesday, May 14 2003
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Flying SRM cranks #6
The entire fuselage of a commercial aircraft is pressurized from the front bulkhead (just fwd of the windscreen) to the aft pressure bulkhead. In other words the pressure in the hold is the same as in the cabin, which is about equivalent to 8000ft altitude, irrespective of what height the aircraft is at. So if you think your cranks could make it up an 8000ft ascent, then it'll be ok! The temperature is also about the same in the hold as in the cabin. This is why when you put your pet in the hold it doesn't die. I'd say leave the cranks on.
Rowan Geddes, A cyclist who just happens to be an aerospace engineer
Australia
Thursday, May 15 2003
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Flying SRM cranks #7
I flew as a flight engineer on 747s and 727s for about 8 years. Cargo holds on modern jet aircraft are pressurized and heated just like the cabin is. The most pressure change you will experience is a rise in cabin altitude of approx 6000 feet or so. The cabin altitude is determined by the actual aircraft altitude and normally is in this range. This should not harm the cranks since most of the higher mountainous areas exceed this to begin with. I don't think you will have a problem.
Scott Holcombe
Charleston SC, 29418
Wednesday, May 14 2003
Chicago
Oct 26 2005, 9:52 am
if I understand you correctly, the answer is simple:
have you ever squeezed 1/2 an egg shell?
benpanter
Oct 26 2005, 10:02 am
Indeed! (I think

)
TabulaRasa
Jun 12 2008, 5:57 pm
Isn't it quite sadistic to show foreigners how good our german beer tastes? I mean, they could become addicted... and a keg doesn't last forever.
hughk
Jul 17 2008, 3:47 pm
We carried a couple of German mini-kegs from Frankfurt to St Petersburg (RUS) without problems, but obviously checked in. They went down very well, especially given the fact that they were 'fresh' from Germany.
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