Jacket stolen from Murphy's last night

stolen jacket... will kill the person who is responsible... (mobile and passport)...
and not joking...
well, not really, know it was nobody from Toytown.. ok where and what do i do to get a new passpot now... please help, thanks...

malc spud had his stuff stolen recently too and did the police report thing. ask him about that. i would definitely go to the police.

report your stolen passport immediately. the u.s is so weird about that, rightly so and they will want answers!. i bet will have to go to the cops.

hopefully you have a copy somewhere. makes the process easier.

sorry bout that. really sucks.

It was probably AmiStud that pinched the jacket - he didn't like the look of the competition so he decided to 'get me coat'. Sadly he got Fusilli's instead...

That really sucks. Sorry to hear that happened. It was pretty quiet too, got any suspects?

Definitely check at GM's to see if someone handed the stuff in. It's a real pain having to go through the reporting a theft thing at the police station - you don't want to have to do it for no reason, specially if you don't speak much/any German.

As for the phone, call up the network operator ASAP to have them block the card and send you a new one. Don't expect them to do anything about blocking the phone itself though.

I'm impressed that in your rage you remembered to write "mobile" and not "cell". Maybe we are teaching you something.
Good luck finding your passport.

Damn man,
my passport got "misplaced" (in other words, I lost it) in Japan. Was really an annoying experience to explain the japanese police that it got "stolen". cost me only 100 euro at the dutch consulate to get a new one.

Lost my plane ticket as well, but that wasn't too difficult to replace since the travel agency had excellent service.

Hope your jacket gets returned to Murphys today!

Wow...thanks everyone for all your help..
I'm workin on a hangover, but am going to try and take care of all these things mentioned. Thank you all very much! Can't believe someone took my jacket though..What a tool.

No offence mate, but he's probably saying the same thing. "Can't believe he left his jacket with passport & phone just lying around. What a tool!". Not having a go at you, but those are pretty valuable items to leave sitting in a jacket that someone can pick up and walk off with.

Still though, hope they do the decent thing and hand it back into Murphys.

Fair enough...good point..I don't know why I left my passport in my jacket to be honest, i think it was in there from the weekend when i went to nachtgalerie. I'm such a dumbass.

OK dumb question..Where do I go to get my passport? I mean, well where is the embassy located. Right now the embassy website is reading like brail to me. This hangover is making things all the more difficult.

That truly sucks out loud. If Murphy's doesn't have it or it doesn't turn up in the next few days, I might also call Equifax or another credit monitoring service to put a flag on your credit report to call you if anyone tries anything funny with your credit. The odds of it happening might be significantly less since you're over here and it was stolen over here, but if you were in the US telling the police, the embassy, credit card companies, etc. does absolutely nothing to prevent someone from opening accounts and credit cards in your name.

That said, was AmiStud there and did he go home in a new jacket?

Although it is technically illegal to walk around Munich/Germany without your passport, for those of us who do not have separate ID cards and have to carry passports according to this daft law, do you actually bother? I don't and never have. My passport is too valuable, for want of a better word, to be lost/stolen. The inconvenience would be too much. If I was ever to be stopped (the chances seem to be very slim of that ever happening anyway) and asked for ID I don't see why my Aufenhaltserlaubnis wouldn't suffice.

I never carry any ID on me.

However, sometimes if I've needed my passport for something, I've forgotten to take my passport out of my pocket and I've carried it around for another day or 2.

So I can fully understand the situation. It's just sheer bad luck...

harsh on the jacket front, makes you wonder how desperate some people must be to go pinching jackets from pubs...


that is good point and i think legally the Aufenhaltserlaubnis does suffice (although they may ask you to call by the station with your passport within a few days of being stopped)

i got stopped for running a red light on my push bike last summer, apart from being really anal about the red light, the two cops were quite reasonable, accepted my bahncard and atm card as proofs of id... i was on my way to the freibad and they agreed that it would be stupid to be bringing a passport or erlaubnis document there...

they sent me on my merry way... i got an 80 yoyo traffic fine in the post a few weeks later though...

my only beef is that the Aufenhaltserlaubnis is such a crap document to carry around... why not make it a credit card sized thing that is durable and would fit in your wallet???

I have been stopped only a couple of times, and was both times lectured that I should carry ID. I had a photocopy of that green aufenthaltserthing, and was told that I MUST carry the original, as my photocopy could be fake. I tried to explain that carrying 'real' ID was insane, as I might lose it, and I am sure Krout law would require me to fill in 3 hundred forms to get a replacement. They carry on moaning, threaten to take you in, but don't.
Wear a suit. Then they won't stop you in the first place.

wait 'til the EU opens up the eastern front in may.
then we'll see big time thieving in munich.
fact.

I only carry my Dutch driving license with me over here. It is a legal proof of ID, and if I would ever lose it, I still have my Aufenthaltserlaubnis. Getting another driving license from my home country would be a lot easier than getting a new Aufenthaltserlaubnis as a foreigner.

And they're both the same size, a three-folded piece of paper.

Quite right mate - us people in suits are always 1. Law abiding, 2. Busy and
3. More important than people not wearing suits.

The simple rule is to 'Obey the Suit'

http://www.obeythesuit.co.uk/

although I have seen a lot of us people in suits wearing sporting shoes with it...

Acqua, fact or fiction, hughely racist comment mate. Not necessary.

the munich busies asked me once for some id...which strangely i didnt have ..so they kindly dropped me home with a blue light so i could show my pasaporte...
which was nice...

on another occasion also no id..but i did have a 1st class stamp with the queens head on it..and a british video club card so i managed to alleviate suspicion of al curreeda tendencies..

as an expert at losing things..(including my mind) i would strongly urge you to check with staff at murphys..maybe there's a simple explanation for it..

at least when summers here it will be too warm for a jacket and all contraptions..
i know its no consolation but where i come from no-one wears a jacket on a night out for fear of it getting swiped or because they cant afford one.

be lucky.

Agreed Uncle J - there is no way I am going to carry my passport unless I know I'm going to need it. I would have no problem carrying ID of some description but I am not risking having my only valid piece of ID stolen. But I'm so innocent looking that in the (almost) six years that I've been here I've never once needed to produce ID.

i understand that you have to have ID here. but to carry your passport around??? and then to leave it in a jacket??? nice one fusili!
surely there are other valid official forms of ID here for foreigners (I just use my drivers license).

Eh? If it's fact how can it be racist? If it's fact is it wrong to mention it?

Of course, we can't know whether it's fact or not because the situation isn't upon us yet, but personally I can't see any benefit in expanding eastwards full stop.

@uncle jamal - i'm just hoping you're provoking, so I won't even start.

my condolences pn the jacket loss Fusilli, I didn't think it was like that around here, in london I used to get something pinched about every six months (phones, wallets, travelcards (!) and so on) made me a real paranoid bastard, always checking my pockets always keeping bags within sight or physically attached to me (remember a friend of mine had her bag pinched in a quite respectable bar from between her feet at the table we we sitting at !). So I hope everything gets sorted soon and don't let it effect you too much, think you've just had bad luck.

Dunno if Aqua's comment does amount to racism - eastern europe does have a much higher crime rate than here (it must do surely - couldn't be lower!) whether the Politzei will just crack down on ID and so on remains to be seen.

I didn't even know about the ID thing, I never carry it with me unless I need to go to the bank - was a bit surprised on Friday when Nachtgalerie wanted ID, luckily Bubblegum was there to sweettalk me past the door, hurrah!

I don't see it is racist either. He's not saying eastern Europeans are bad people but rather that removing border checks so that the criminal element can freely move in Germany probably is going to result in an increase in crime.

Comment should have been made under the "EU" thread however.

On topic, a driver's license usually is good enough for everyday purposes.

Got to chuck my two cents in on this - from my professional dealings with Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Bloc, it is fair to say that crime there is a big problem, and one which is growing in size. Former military hardware is also much more readily available so it can get quite violent - it's not just Mafia stuff, but also petty street crime. I hope to Christ that doesn't spread West...

Thanks C, ya wanker! Today is horrible. Lost all my shit..Had a meeting with my head boss hungover, while he was larfing at me for being sucha drunk mess. Am going to the police station at 3 to deal with that crap. Then tomorrow morning if my passport doesn't show up at murphy's tonight will go to the embassy. Apparantly the guy I work with said he saw either irish or scotish potential thiefs standing near my jacket for a while. Hoping that these guys live in munich and will return the passport..Could give two shits less about the phone and jacket...didn't like the jacket anyway and needed a new phone, so now i have a reason to buy a cooler phone...Ok im gonna go take a crap for the 5th time today...

How is assuming that the Eastern Europeans are the "criminal element" not rasict?
I have spent about 4x more time in Eastern European countries and yet have had 3 incidnets of theft. Two in the UK and one in France. Sorry, folks, but Western Europe is just as guilty of petty crimes as Eastern Europe. If some of you people actually go to those countries maybe you will find this out.

Fusilli

You could try going back to Gunthers, and walking about the area a bit, down towards the English Garden.
If I had just 'alf inched a jacket, I would have rifled the pockets for money, phone etc, and binned the jacket itself, and probably the passport too. Not that I do that stuff, but if I did, thats what I'd do.

BTW, Whats the difference between Girandole and Fusilli? Look the same.

For all those wondering what sort of ID to carry when you don't want to carry your passport, it's simple. Carry a photocopy of it and the visa in it. Not worth anything to anyone, but shows who you are to the cops. For picking up packages at the post office, take some minor piece of picture ID.

was thinking about this, theoretically a stolen passport isn't of any use to anyone - cos it can be cancelled and so on. so the inconvenience is that people nick the jacket looking for readies and happen to take your pass too, nobody sets out to nick passports, just that they are thieves, so not inclined to give you your pass back!

However pass checks between Germany and UK, for example are minimal at best, I just wave it at both ends and noone cares or looks.

The point: EU means relaxation of pass controls - noone that bothered on intraEU flights etc, so maybe it will become more worthwhile for people to nick passports if they can work out a way of replacing the photos? People who get smuggled into EU over a land border can then get whereever they like inside the EU with a stolen pass (not implying that people want to be in UK more than DE)

for what its worth...felt safer walking the streets of poland or prague than fcukin paris...

i like the easties. they'll back you up..they're straight with you imho..
nowt wrong with ruskies/poles...just a little bit dodgy...sly..tasty...handy..

crime is rife yes and berlin has felt the effects for years of eastern influx...just that munich is a sleepy bavarian hamlet where the police like to think they av vays..so its pretty controlled here..

this might change with an even bigger influx..but first we take manhattan then we take berlin..

You are joking aren't you?? In the UK, I just wave my passport in the vague direction of the person at the desk, but here...very different.

They look at me, the passport, me, the passport at least 3 times, before handing it back in a very begrudging way. To a lesser extent when I am wearing a suit of course, but still.

@flogger - dunno about Poland or Prague, but yeah, Paris is a right dodgy hole. Even the majority of the French don't like the place

Probably too late but DON'T lock your phone. My "father-in-law" is a policeman and getting your phone locked is nothing but a guarentee that you'll never get it back. As soon as you reported it to the police you aren't liable for any calls made on it anyway. Phones are usually located by sending a silent sms -the police send a text message to your phone, which you don't notice, but they find out exactly where you are. If the phone is locked they can't do that, obviously. So on the off chance you haven't done it already, go to the police but don't get your phone locked! Here's hoping!

Not really Kathie.

You may have reported it to the police, but the call costs will still hit your bill and the charge will still come out of your account. You might be able to claim it back after the fact but that's leaving yourself open to a lot of hassle and quite a risk if expensive calls have been made and you ultimately don't get it back.

Yes it is possible to accurately triangulate the location of a phone but that's dependant on a whole load of stuff.

1. The phone is turned on.
--- Unlikely if it was chucked away.
2. The original SIM is still in ther phone
--- Unlikely if the thief has even half a brain.
3. The police could be arsed to go to the bother.
--- They won't.

If the first 2 are in fact true, then call it now and the phone will ring. If someone answers then ask for your shit back and tell them there'll be no reprisals if they give the stuff over

All three of these are incredibly unlikely.

If the phone is gone then assume it's gone for good. Limit your risk and cancel the SIM. That the only thing to do.

@ keydeck

how can this be racist?
it's a valid point which concerns alot of people.
more to do with economics i'd say.
if your on the look out for racist comments i'd be more concerned with the scottish and irish thieves post above.

thank god no scousers were mentioned..no new cans of worms need be opened.

was there anybody hanging about in a shell-suit by chance..just out of interest like..?

The phone can be located even if a different SIM card is being used, if you know the phone's IMEI number (serial number). The operators have the capability of preventing a phone from accessing their network if it's IMEI is on a blacklist. They can probably also tell you (or the police) the phone number of the SIM currently being used in it, and the approximate location of it. This is why you're asked for that number when you report your phone stolen.

Problem is that they don't do it, presumably because it's too much effort. Of course it wouldn't help much anyway if the IMEI has been changed (not a simple procedure so it doesn't happen that often) or the phone has been taken out of the country.

You should make a note of your phone's IMEI number just in case it gets lost or stolen. The phone will display it on the screen when you dial *#06#

So, when the Eastern front is open, I presume that the Eastern Europeans come over those borders, and when they come, with them will bring their thieving ways because Eastern Europeans are much bigger thieves than W. Europeans. Also, according to you this is a fact.

You are essentially saying that there is thieving in Eastern Europe, which I agree with. But, this thieving is not due to poor security/police measures, but due to the nature of Easter European people. Because once they cross the border into a country with very strict security/policing, then they will continue their "big time" thieving because that's just the way they are. That sounds pretty racist to me.

I didn't say the Eastern Europeans ARE the criminal element. There is however A criminal element in Eastern Europe that most people would consider to be a bigger problem than the Western criminal element. That is certainly not racist. The higher crime and corruption rate in the East is a result of their economic and political situations and not the result of Eastern Europeans being evil and prone to crime. The latter would be a racist assertion but nobody here is saying that. Nobody said it's in their "nature" either. You're inferring something that just isn't there.

Man, laws are a bit laxer, corruption more rife, and policing less militant in Eastern "Europe", so there is more crime, as its easier to get away with.
We'd all love to rob banks if we could actually get away with it. Maybe its just me (and that I doubt) but I have no moral objections to robbing a bank, I'm just scared of being sent off to the big house and helping Mr Big find his soap.

Eastern peeps will want to come here to ESCAPE all the crime & shit, and that could lead to some economic problems with jobs and large numbers of unemployed men that MAY lead to crime. I don't think anyone can seriously say that all easterners are thieves or undesirables.

Apart from the Turks.

Glad you guys are all getting yur jollies off on my stupidity.
I wasn't picking on Irish or scotish people its just that my co-worker was talking about soccer for a few seconds with some Irish or Scotish guys who he said looked a bit suspicious and that were sitting by my jacket..I think I remember them, but it's all very vague. Kind of remember some hard ass guys with shaved heads sitting by my jacket. But I can't be too presumptious. Just a guess.

@ homer


no. i'm saying what i'm saying. you don't have to read in to it.
organised crime in western europe is becoming more and more heavily influenced by eastern european outfits.
i.e. prostitution/people smuggling/drug smuggling/weapons

if you're so well travelled in eastern europe you've obviously been over the czech border to cheb and as (for example) and saw what was going on on the EU doorstep?
what's your comments on these places?

anyway, if this is racist how come the germans can get away with all those polish jokes? for example...
the polish triathlon:
run to the swmming pool
swim
drive home

these mostly eastern outfits i've seen in operation..especially in berlin.. it aint really the men you gotta worry about..its the women and children...very well organised stuff indeed.

clever tactic this..send them in to do dirty deeds knowing some airy fairy old fuddy duddy pc judge aint gonna get hard on em...

"let's be careful out there"

Just thought of something...the stroonzo that stole my phone got a prepaid calling card with no minutes and a half broken mobile. Luckily i have my original american T-mobile card in my apartment. And he got a shitty pig skin jacket that smells aweful. (but he has my passport so i'm gonna shut up)...

stroonzo??? WTF?

Maybe someone should suggest that Alan or Victor at GM should open a "Cloakroom"

I would gladly pay a euro for a safe keeping of my stuff.

A bit of extra brass for them too.

Ps Ditch the racism... its not big and its not cleaver.

G