Third runway for Munich Airport

So Munich Airport will have a third runway by 2010, it was announced this week. The airport claims that they need to increase the number of take-offs and landings from the current maximum of 89 up to 120. The third runway will be built parallel to the current north runway and will demolish two villages, Eittingermoos and Schwaigermoos, both a little to the east of Freising in Kreis Erding. Needless to say, the villagers are not too happy about this, and are already looking for somewhere else to put their cows.

Munich Airport pulled the same stunt as Heathrow are currently doing with their 5th terminal and 3rd runway. Rather than propose a new terminal and runway together, they spread the job out and make it two separate proposals. This significantly increases the likelihood of gaining planning permission.

I live 2.5kms from the north runway, but I don't hear the planes much because they're not allowed to fly over Freising. But this new runway will be a kilometre closer... Fortunately, I'm moving on Monday; it's unlikely that the new runway will be operating by then.

Article from Die Welt (in Jeerman)

Munich Airport propoganda

[size=1]Photo of Munich Airport via airpictorial.com

Villagers demand grazing possibilities!!

(sorry, bad reference to Black and White)

hopefully they'll get the rapid transit link to the city centre sorted out at some point in the not too distant future

you're kidding, the transrapid is way too expensive just to provide 400 jobs and cut down the travel time by what? 10 mins. the S-Bahn will soon be on 10 min takt any hows.

@Gideon: No, the journey time of the magnet bahn is supposed to be 10 minutes, in comparison to the current 40 minutes. It will be hideously expensive though, but they wouldn't have got this far with the plans unless they intended to build it.

I thought it did the stretch in 10mins not reduced it by 10mins?
Or maybe I'm being daft.

<rustles anorak>

IF it is built and it is a BIG if, the Transrapid would do Hauptbahnhof-Airport in 10-15 minutes. One way fare would be about EUR 25 compared to S-Bahn of EUR 8.

A second cross Munich link (I'm personally in favour of Südring, but that's another thread) and signalling improvements will allow increased frequencies on the existing S-bahn lines. Proposed would be then express S-Bahns that after serving ALL of the city centre statiion would only call at major interchanges on the way to the airport cutting journey times from 40 to 20ish minutes.

Transrapid
EUR 25
Only Hbf
10 minutes

Express S-Bahn
EUR 8
All city stations
20 minutes

That's before even considering costs and environment.

ok sorry ten minutes. still a massive waste of money in this day and age.
1.6 billion - and thats projected costs people - for 400 jobs. why not just give 400 poeple 3 million and be done with it.

No German is going to pay 25 Euros to get to the airport 15 minutes faster than they do now.
I wouldn't. And I hope they don't because this stupid TransRapid is going to go right by my village(although, it can't be any noisier than the Autobahn is)

It's funny, the people affected the most are the people who have the least benefit. People in Oberschleissheim/Unterschleissheim will not travel into town to get the direct TR when they can hop on the S-bahn in their own town.

And lets not forget the S-Bahn RingSchluss...

This project will be completed in 2009-2010 and will extend the current
S-bahn line from Erding to the Airport. Erding is to get a new Station in
the process which will also service the new Regional Express line which
is also being built and will traverse the airport on it's way to Freising/Landshut..

For a quick overview try this (german) Link

Or Use your friend Google

You are spot on Gideon, Jesus we must stop agreeing!

The reason that Transrapid has been pushed so much comes down to:

1) A lot of male politicians from all parties involved quite frankly seeing it as a penis.

2) BIG companies looking for the German public purse to build a route in Germany as a "reference" so they can sell the technoogy elsewhere.

3) Stoiber and Co wanting to go yay yay yay for Bayern being at the forefront of technology.

Deutsche Bahn has been deliberately holding back rail improvements Berlin-Hamburg to try and maybe get that as Transrapid.

Transrapid would also mean massive compulsory purchase and demolition of homes in NW Munich and surrounding as space is tight.

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Edit: Darkknight is spot on to mention th Erding extension and the new Landshut services which will close a big gap in the regional rail network.

by rapid transit I don't necessarily need the maglev thingy - a slighly quicker (non-stop?) S-Bahn would be fine

@KK64, you're right, no German will pay 25 euros to travel on the magnet train. But businesses (German or otherwise) will. It's the same at Heathrow, where the Heathrow Express currently charges GBP14 (a touch shy of 25 euros) for the 15-mile/15-minute journey, putting it amongst the most expensive stretches of railway in the world. Those trains are full of businessmen who aren't paying the fare themselves, while the millions of normal tourists and travellers who use Heathrow each year continue to sweat it out on the tube for well over an hour. Sorry to sound like a communist, but these privately-built railway lines create a two-tier "public" transport network.

There's a cheaper version called heathrow Connect now that stops at hayes, Southall and Ealing Broadway and "only" costs GBP 9 to Paddington.

All zones 1 day travelcard for all transport in Greater London on the other hand: GBP 6

I'd pay the 25€ gladly - I'm a big supporter of the TransRapid for entirely selfish reasons (I live centrally, like fast trains, can afford the fare and hate sitting on that S-Bahn for what seems like ages).