Moves afoot to change Union Flag

I stole this from another forum, so dont have a link yet, but here is the jist.


personally if this was true, i think its stupid - or at least cover up some of the red instead

The story dates from 2003...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2981038.stm

i'd never heard about it before, but i think it's a fantastic idea
it really gets my goat to hear ignorant racist idiots spouting "ain't no black in the union jack"
the old union flag is a symbol of the oppression of the empire, thankfully britain has changed a lot and is now a multicultural society
i'd be in favour of changing it

we will never agree on anything topsy

the only people i hear saying "aint no black..." are the people saying it goes on! i just dont hear it.

i dont think it represents oppression at all as it is.

Actually I heard it would look like this:

/me ducks and runs for the nearest exit...

Would be only right after 800 years of oppression

Looks similar..
http://www.50states.com/flag/hiflag.htm

There is already an Irish flag in the union flag. duh.

Really, which bit do you think is the Irish bit then?

Huh... Didn't know that... Ya learn something new everyday..

Ireland: St Patrick's Cross

http://flagspot.net/flags/ie-stpat.html

actually it is a symol of unity.

why change something that symbolises unity?

the french had an empire. should they change their flag?

despite being an old old story, the whole idea is f*ing ridiculous.

the only change i would see fitting, would be to include the cross of St. David, the only one missing from the Union Flag.

And if there is a change to include another "colour" then i suggest following the rainbow theme to avoid the need to change it again in another 1,000 years.

Altogether now: red and yellow and pink and green, orange and purple and blue.

Actually that won't work cos black and white aren't technically colours. So i suggest the new union flag should be a 64,000 colour palette like the one that you see in graphics programs.

If i had time today i would do some photoshopping, but i don't... any takers?

KT

stupid idea and one that thankfully hasn't come into fruition apparently as the article's 2 years old.

Still seems to have support amongst the loony left, though, despite not yet coming to anything.

Time to ditch all these relics of the past and face the glorious future and truth that "The Union" now means something much greater...

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Like coruption and apathy.

Oppression: lets look at recent history. Before looking at this flag for changing for oppression reasons there are plenty others in the front of the line with more recent poor records on human rights.
Virtually all African countries
Japan
China
S American countries
US (Vietnam)
Germany
France (all it's colonies)
Belgium (colonies again, esp congo)
Sweden's arm sales to all
Switzerland (money from any evil twat)
Australia (treatment of the locals)

The flag is principally the union between Scotland and England ie the United Kingdom with another bit thrown in later. It is a good trade mark for the country.

The Union Flag represents the destruction of the slave trade.

well, it clearly represents different things to different people, doesn't it?
fact it, it's a symbol that seems to have been co-opted by the far-right*, and i would not feel comfortable wearing it or flying it for that reason

*and recently a few clueless fashion victims

a few??, thats an understatement

im tired of seeing people "jacking up" especially the germans. its the same thing with all this brazil shit. you cant adopt another personality simply by wearing "branded" nationalities. be yourself.

mostly though id like to see it disappear from australias flag.

Yep. Now that IS an anachronism. There was a discussion about the New Zealand flag recently.

why change it? its one of the best and most recongised flags in the world, its a design classic, changing it would be a bad rebrand if its only to piss off the small and unimportant percentage of the population who are a bunch of delluded nationalists - be they british, welsh, english, scottish or irish nationalists. as for austrailia changing thiers, thats their descision, although again its getting to the point where that flag is becoming a classic full of positive emotions and symbol for the relaxed jovial good living and good life of austrailia. sadly the same can not be said of the nz flag, because most peopple do not know the difference between aus and nz.

Agreed. It's coolest looking flag of all IMO.

much has been discussed about our flag too...

An alternative flag for Yorkshire

i'm sure if you and all your cousins ask politley enough we let you become part of great britain again.

aren't NZ talking about changing theirs?
there were some really cool designs on offer, i seem to remember
the aussies need their own as well, i agree - they've got their own identity, they should get themselves a forward looking flag, rather than harking back to the past. something gold and green would be good.

Hmm, I do like Tony Blair, ales, bitters and shepherd's pie... tempting. How would you incorporate us back into the Union Jack without changing it too much?

Green and gold? I prefer this one myself (he says not only wandering off subject but onto a subject he's not particularly qualified to go on about)

shepherd's pie!! you're making me hungry...

jeeves, that's really horrible - is that what they want?
looks like the japanese flag on acid

The Aussies and Kiwi's are surely breaking copywrite laws by stealing the registered trade mark of the UK and as for Reebok...
I think we should charge a royalty to these countries for the infringement. Now the royalty could be part payment for the royal family that are still the glorious heads of states of the these countries. Perhaps they could pay for Prince Edwards flower arranging hobby, Prince Phillip's palace fetish, Prince Charles's waiting to be king time etc. Perhaps Camilla Parker Bowels (is this a spelling mistake) could be leased out on a time share basis too.

I think this is only fair and reasonable.

Topsy I don't know what they want. They don't know what they want. But that is the "aboriginal" flag although the colours come over a bit gaudy on my screen at least. But in a way you're right because the yellow blob does represent the sun

i thought it must be aboriginal or summat - but "a bit" gaudy?
tone down the colours a bit and it's alright, i suppose

Well i had a few minutes to knock one up.. Thanks to the unmentionable one for the 64k colour palette image.

There are so many colours in this flag, there isn't a chance they would ever need to change it again

KT

How about letting Skirtland have independence and give them Wales and Liverpool as a going away present and then having this flag instead!

Then can we give Bradford to Pakistan?

i believe there were moves for geordieland to joins us for a while. id take them all.

So redesigning the flag puts an instant stop to racism. Shit I wish we'd known that a few years ago. It's just so obvious and simple when you think about it. Perhaps if they dyed Marmite red then some people would stop disliking that too!

My old dad used to say about converting racists... 'You can't polish a turd son..!

u feeling like a colonist again? aw bless

Livin' down 'ere in rustic Bayern amongst the German hillbillies, I'd plump for this:

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Must have been because he had (has?) a turd son...

Since technically Wales is a part of England why should ye get you're cross in the union jack ???

<meckle dives behind couch for cover>

"A campaign is being launched to modernise the red, white and blue flag by adding a touch of black to reflect multicultural Britain in the 21st Century"

Correct me if I`m wrong and I know I`m not, I seem to remember the Swastika Flag of Nazi-Germany was ,red,white and BLACK. I don`t actually remember hearing that Adolf and his goons were multi-cultural in any way, form or manner.
And for the record when Scotland gets Independence then the oil-revenues are only for us and nothing more for the English, think about that.

You'll get that sector of the North Sea when it's good and drained sea-king, and not before.

@ Sin, we`ll see about that my old cocksparra, whatca up to you wastrel? In a hotel in Jena oh oh.. heard that one before.!

I think you ll find that if you follow the line and angle of the border out through sea you ll find that all the oil and gas falls on the English side!

Edit

??? Yorkshire 'humour???...wrong bait mate.

"I think you ll find that if you follow the line and angle of the border out through sea you ll find that all the oil and gas falls on the English side!"

I think you`ll find that when Independence comes and it will, the line in the North Sea will be angled right up your backside, and the flag will be changed anyway then.
P.S. I am not a rabid Nationalist, I just drink anything

Here's my entry. Everybody likes a nice curry, don't they?

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sorry, but technically it is no longer part of England. It used to be, granted. The first act of union made Wales a part of England. Devolution set that scandel right.

So I still feel we should have part of the St.David's Cross in the Union Flag. Actually the black might be a good compromise because the St.David's Cross (which is yellow) has a black background:



This could also be used to represent our Celtic cousins the Cornish, whose flag symbolises St. Piran: