TT to be available via Mozilla-based browsers only

hahaha...

Then perhaps you can come to my place and explain the detailed reports made every friday about all our PC's.. Yes you can xip the stuff up and it won't be found,
but even if it doesn't add stuff to the registry. Not all networks are the same

teehee - what a wheeze

Yes it is.

No you don't.

Then your audit sucks and your methods suck.

Patently false.

Wrong again. Too cumbersome, takes too much time, leaves too much of a trail. Portable Firefox may be a solution, but only if I haven't locked down a system so hard that you can only run specific whitelisted applications.

Then your company needs a serious BOfH. I may be in the market for a new job.

Look into Win2K/Win2K3 administration. Learn Microsoft's Group Policy Editor. Play with DameWare (remote control) for a bit. You can stop users doing anything you want.

From a technical standpoint you can control the (l)users. What might slip through the cracks can be controlled by specific usage policies and management, but there's little you can't control with shipped and free tools already.

woof.

With computers anything is possible, its really easy to tap into filesystem hooks that make a note of every file written to or read from. And its pretty hard for average users to get around.

And you can have totally locked down systems where all drives are network mounted, and after someone logs out, all changes except those expressly permitted are undone. But you can get around that too. And a clever admin can get around users that try to get around it.

A user could even boot up with a knoppix cd or something, but theres both obvious tricks (like no cd rom drive) and network based tricks that can prevent that too, of course a clever user could get around those tricks, and an even cleverer admin could get around those user hack around, and an even cleverererer user could get around... You get the idea..

Basically it comes down to who is cleverer, the admins or users. And the only way to have a clever admin is for him or her to have actually batteled against even cleverer users, and the only way for those users to have gotten clever is if they battled against even cleverer admins.

Thats why most flats I lived in we always had a "anything technically possible is permitted" rule regarding network security. We basically hammered each other with every trick we could come up with, until everyones systems were rock solid, and thats how security should work in the real world too.

Thats why virus writers and hackers deserve so much praise, who else is encouraging OS developers and admins, and of course users themselves (because its the users that have ultimate responsibility) to keep systems secure?

Anyway, by 2007 I am sure IE will be firefox compatible

Guess he had his fun. And proved the TT addiction.

Quote of the day.

Editor Bob, thanks for not being an evil browser dictator after all. Nice one,
MajorB

But ONLY 30 MONTHS!!!
Aaaaargggghh, and then what will I do!? Hmmmm? What if I haven't installed another web browser by then!? Tell me people... THEN what will I do!?

Goodbye in advance, cruel TT world.
I am going to run into the garden now and flail my arms wildly.

Phew!
Thank you, Editor Bob, I was afraid that I'd have to spend the next five days frantically writing down
all the tips, addresses and other useful info that I've seen on TT over the past two months and which
I'm going to need very, very soon...
Kay

Its a bit hot for that innit Marshy. I sat around tearing my hair out a while (I needed a trim anyway) and poked into my editor bob vodoo dolls. I think it helped.

cheers bob

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nice descision. thanks EB.

could one of the ever present tech-headies here please explain to me why such a move is good, what the fuck a modzilla (or whatever) browser is and how in 30 months time, those of us whose interest in a computer is at best what colour the screen saver is, will know we're TT compatible?

It does help, Jml.
I set up a high pitched keening for a while, rocking back and forth etc... but the neighbours came outside and threw variously weighted items at my head.
Obviously they just don't understand what Editor Bob is doing to us.
Nobody ever thinks about the children.

Thank you Bob! The farmer would have noticed if I had installed FireFox on his computer and then he would have spanked me or shut me in the barn or done something terrible to me like cutting off my hooves and turning them into a soup for using his computer and now none of this is going to happen and I can keep visiting you guys when he is out working on the fields.

Reminds me of Zombo.com.

@gideon, im sure ed bob is still kidding, noone makes web site compatibility predictions 2 years in advance, things change too fast. What specific advantage ed bob had in mind, if any, only he can answer, but theoretically I can think of only 3 reasons why such a switchover could be made:

Philosophy: Making a statement against microsoft or in favor of open source for any number of reasons.

Security: Anything that encourages more secure browsers at the expense of less secure ones is at least partially well meant.

Technical: Perhaps he (or more likely invision the makers of the software) want to make use of a technology that microsoft refuses to support in internet explorer. Such as XUL which lets you do a lot more inside a browser than what html allows. But I checked invision and they arent planning any such changes.

Personally neither are really good reasons for a site like TT. Normal forum based www sites should target versions of html rather than specific browsers.

It was definitly just a wind up, he probably wanted to demonstrate, to the sz journo, one of the most popular, funny, interesting and worthwhile types of post found on TT: The trollpost.

let's see...

first the story is "If you don't change your ways, I'm leaving you next week!"

then the reply is: "But honey, I can't do anything about it. That's how things are at work."

then the story changes to: "OK then, if you don't change, I'll leave you in 2 years!"

why do I get the feeling that I've had this argument before - with former girlfriends?!?!

I don't think Evil Bob was kidding. I think he actually planned the switcheroo on the 25th but when he saw the reaction he decided to make it look like a joke. This man is pure evil I tell ya.

The truth is, there is no Editor Bob. He's like dread-pirate roberts - but controlled by a mega-conglomerate that's just a front for the alien-robot-overlords that really run the earth. The current EB is actually a giant super-intelligent gorilla with rocket-eyes.

Cowgirl, If I thought I could get spanked by a farmer for downloading firefox, I would have done it months ago!

Slim, There is too an Editor Bob. I've met him and he looks exactly like his photo on the membership forum.

Bad Doggie, woof. I even did a rather understated woof.

Might I interject an "Oo ar" at this point?

This must be a joke...

Very odd behaviour if it isn't.

No way am I installing two browsers.

So it would be goodbye TT if that was the case

...and Mozilla/Firefox is not more secure than IE.

Just check the online IT Press...