The San Francisco to Munich connection

Met my (Bavarian... from Munich) wife in SF. Followed her home in August 2001. Never plan on returning to SF. (I do miss Zeitgeist though. And farolito. Damn them ws the best burritos on the planet.)

Allianz owns an insurance company here called Fireman's Fund and I know a number of people who have gone to Munich from San Francisco and vice versa. Soon, I hope to be one of those coming there for a 2 year assignment. I live about 30 miles north of San Francisco in beautiful Marin county and would love to house/apartment exchange. Anyone want to live in California close to Napa, Sonoma and "the city?"

One would think that the cafe is Vesuvio Café on the corner of Columbus Ave (main strip through North Beach) and Kerouc Alley since that is the actual physical location where they shot it (although in the movie the café sign says that the place is called Café Roads).

BUT, the inside scenes of the café was actually shot at the Rococo Showplace on 10th street at Howard, a place I've never seen, or heard of.

I love this movie too, mostly because of how many various locations in SF it was shot, it really brings you back.

Hence, SF is in my user name.

I am six generation on my grandmothers side... Started my career in Silicon Valley and guess where I ended up.. well, I was living in other countries but it was the Silicon Valley connection that sent me here.

Love seeing people appreciating my city...

I grew up in Berkeley and SF in the Sixties, we had friends on the Haight, my Ma was in jail for civil disobidience etc. Going back now is great because it feels so much like Europe with all the benefits of SF-dom thrown in. But The City (note the caps ) has its drawbacks as well such as much more crime than Munich and being on the San Andreas Fault. One thing both cities have in common is ridiculously high housing costs (rental and purchase). Not to mention both cities are gay-magnets.

If you feel homesick or need more SF info go to www.sfgate.com, it is the SF Chronicle site.

Put me on the list for a CA-gathering, thx.

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Sorry, I work in IT, and found that hilarious. SAP capital of mainland Europe maybe, but thats it.

Hello all,

I am also from San Francisco. Grew up in Daly City, just directly south of SF. Lived in Fillmore/Lower Pac Heights, Mission, and North Beach. I have to say, I do miss SF. However, after reading all the threads, there are definitely good things about Munich as well. There are always going to be good and bad things of each city.

I've been living in Munich for a little over 5 months and am enjoying it. Although, I have to get back to you on that after I've experienced a full winter as we all know, SF doesn't have a winter weather. Uh oh...guess I'll just have to hit the ski resorts on weekends.

I will definitely be open to meeting you all. Let me know if any of you decide to meet up. Would love to meet fellow bay area folks.

Herr Kling of the Twisted Bavarian lived in San Francisco for 10 years. He wants to go back, but I've got him firmly chained to his kitchen.

yeahhh...its a great city with cosmo crowd and all the stuff happening..! It s a scenic city as well as it has good uni's and great IT firms. The firm that i admire "Google" has its headquarters there at "Mountain View"...! The golden gate bridge, alcatraz, hippies, carnivals, uni's, and sundry things makes it a very happening place..iTz a kewL placE, hey...! :-) Another city which sounds the same as frisco is "Vancouver" in Canada...! :-)

Can we agree that the term "Frisco" should be bound, gagged and drowned? Neither Wiki nor the official page knows it and it raises goosebumps on just about anybody living there or in the Bay Area. SF or The City for me any day. Cheers.

Otis Redding liked it!

"I left my home in Georgia
Headed for the 'Frisco bay
'Cause I've had nothing to live for
And look like nothin's gonna come my way

So I'm just gonna sit on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time"

And? He's dead! It's a curse, I tell you!

did he jump off the bridge?

I am glad this thread is BACK!!
I havn't looked at it since 2005! but now I am back here and missing SF and found it to be cheering me up somehow. There are so many things I love about SF but so many things i get sick of when there. It is only nice if you live IN the city, or very close by. I lived in the eastbay, further east than Berkeley, and it was just that bit too far from The City. Not to mention, the work ethic is HORRIBLE. people work till they drop, and get not much vacation, and the traffic is by far the worst I have ever had to deal with. and there is no good public transportation. ex: You want to go into the city on a Friday night, well you must leave by about 12:00 to get to Market Street to get the last bart ride home. ughh.
BUT i do miss so many things that cannot be found here...like tasty mexican food! ...and the fact that you can get away with dressing in pretty much anything, (even a tye dye hippie dress with wings attached to your back, and skates on your feet! ) I also miss the fog. that is the best on a mellow sunday afternoon, to drive into the foggy city and have a latte and read a book. Munich is too flat, as well. San Francisco has lots of hills!

But we always want to be where we arent. and we always want what we don't have.

how weird... just back from SF last week. I must admit to really liking in over there, hanging around in Marin. Although I still think the people who race down Mt Tam are totally insane! Also, knowning a lot more people in SF than Munich helps hehe.

But saying that, I do love the smallness of Munich, able to get anywhere reasonably quickly on a bike (and still alive!)...

If anyone's bored, there's some photo's I took recently from SF: http://flickr.com/photos/kirth/collections...57600346078990/

A mass transit update for the Munich folks migrating back to San Franciso. There is a new option that will be available soon in the way of the TransLink card for folks who use Golden Gate Transit and MUNI (except cable cars). Addtionally, if you take the boat ride across from Marin you can get a free MUNI transfer (outbound and inbound) from the Ferry Terminal if you need it.

Here is the link: http://goldengate.org/translink/

Much more important: Today, I got a box of San Francisco Chocolate Factory chocolates from the cat-owner whose beastie I've been cat-sitting.

For anyone who will miss out on the Wiesn, here is a possible alternative in S.F.

http://www.oktoberfestbythebay.com/

Good news is i have been to it and i can report it's a fun time. Its in one of the massive Pier buildings so you can walk outside and have a great view of the Bay. Downsides include: Its gotten very crowded the last few years and they have banned Mass Krug so its going to be plastic. They only serve Spaten-Franzikaner beers. Go early and leave early, then you will enjoy it the most. HEAVY Police presence including CHP and SFPD and the Park Police from the Presidio. Yes the Jagermeister girls will be there too.

I was just in SF for a week.

Same climate.

Same population (600,000).

Same tenuous grip as a world financial center.

45 minute - one hour drive from wine country.

Tremendous mountain biking on one's doorstep.

Depressingly provincial attitude.

International airport 15 minutes away from which one can fly directly to whereever one wants to go.

Only problem: The sister city in Germany is Frankfurt, not Munich!

@ Expaticus - Munich's population has been 1.3 mio for quite a few years now. But you as a foreigner can't be expected to know that.

EDIT: It's sorta early in the morning, I just realized you might have meant Frankfurt all the time. Mountain biking? In the Taunus, I suppose ... And a distinct lack of wine country around Munich.

I did ... that's the punchline.

Only 1.3 million now in Munich? Sounds quaint and charming. SF bay area has about 7-8 million.

Depends how big one defines "the greater X area".

San Francisco proper is 700,000-ish, but add in the surrounding MSA and you get to your number.

Frankfurt proper is 600,000, but the greater Rhein-Main area is c. 2.5 million.

No idea on Munich.

I believe it is more closer 800,000 now (est). Though who knows really, the gunfire in the streets can't kill the flood of people coming here. I think they are estimating over a million or close to it by next census.

How is Munich? I haven't seen it since I was a child 30 years ago. I was suprised to see this thread.

Here's something for homesick Bay Areans http://www.sfgate.com/

NORCAL!!! ...I how I miss thee, but ...the things a man will do for love

I've been reading many of the posts and it seems as though I'm not the only one who's relocated here for a significant other.

Having lived in Santa Cruz (that's South Bay area for those that don't know) for the past 3 years, I can honestly say it's one of my favorite places on earth. BUT, there is always drama in paradise.

For anyone traveling there, here are a few things you should know:

1. The Santa Cruz Airporter shuttle no longer goes to SFO.

2. GREAT MUSIC SCENE! Honestly, a little better during the week since most of the larger acts play SF on the weekends

3. Make friends with the locals. SC is famous for it's "locals only" mentality, they may act like jerks sometimes but don't be one back or you or your property will likely be damaged.

That being said; I have been here about a month and it has been a bit frustrating.

I have an Irish citizenship, which is why I moved as my gf was having trouble getting a Visa.

My company was acquired, and though I knew I wouldn't be able to get a six-figure sales job like I had in Silicon Valley,
I didn't expect that employment options would be as narrow as I'm finding them to be.

I do have a working knowledge of German but am still rather uncomfortable corresponding in it.

Does anyone have any suggestions for someone in my situation seeking professional employment here in Munich with limited German?

Appreciation in advance for insights from all you TTers out there.

Almost forgot to mention these 2 more managable and ongoing alternatives to the massive Fort Mason Oktoberfest happening only next weekend.

http://www.suppenkuche.com/

Located on Hayes @ Laguna, this is the only authentic and Bavarian owned place in SF. The beer selection will make any homesick Münchener feel right at home, and the food is as good as or better than anything back in Bayern. Downside is the place gets ROCKING and fills up fast as there is not much space inside.

http://www.schroederssf.com/

Located in downtown SF in the Financial District off Front street and California, this is a massive german beer hall with lots of beautiful dark wood and a full bar. It is also Czech owned so they have some excellant Czech beer in addition to many Bavarian standards. Also have a full on polka band certain nights.

Johnjoe: Where did you live in SC? I grew up in Watsonville and lived in SC for the past 10 or so years before moving to Munich in March.

Johnjoe: Where did you live in SC? I grew up in Watsonville and lived in SC for the past 10 or so years before moving to Munich in March.

Short Corner,

I lived on San Juan Ave. just in front of De Le Veaga, off the 1 and then moved to an apt. complex right by Soquel & Ocean.

... I hear there are some good disc golf courses here around Munich.

What brought you out here in March?

My wife is from southern Germany and got offered a job out here.

Nice One Short Corner!

Did you manage to get a transfer with your job or are you in the same boat as me right now trying to work the job search?

But then how could Sister Sledge sing "He's the Greatest Dancer?"

They can go right along with Jackson 5 and "Blame it on the Moonlight".
By the way, "San Fran" is so totally 80s.

Just thought I'd add myself to the list of ex-SC residents. Great little town, and I'd move back in a heartbeat if the right job was there, though I have to admit I think I liked Berkeley a little better. I lived in SC for four years (yep, it's my alma mater). I lived in condoland for awhile and then in Live Oak right near the beach. I hate to admit it, but I spent a lot of time at the Red Room and the Rush Inn, along with a lot of other physics students at the time.

Ohhh, SC... and the Red, home sweet home--I have no problem admitting it--just went for cocktails there (upstairs) last month while back visiting :-) And I tell you, although I've been living here a year (yes, I know, I guess I need to meet some of you TT folks in person one of these days) it was a bit harsh returning from the warm, sunny and dry, ocean and redwood love to to find it to be sweater weather already upon us here...although the trees do look gorgeous... And physics interplanetjanet? You and my husband probably have lots to talk about, like the latest GRB to be detected, I admit, it all goes over my head at some point...
anyway, for all you ex santa-cruzians, its just as beautiful as usual...and just as overburdened with lack of infrastructure (did the hwy 1 widening help? of course not!) for all the people that have been realizing its the place to be--it's nice to be back where I can get anywhere I need to go on public transit :-)

The Red and the Rush Inn is still a little more high brow that the Double-00 (one-007) or the Nasti Asti...

Though I do miss Eagles games at the Avenue, the Poet and the Kuumbwa.

For any interested SC-ers who spent any time there, Chris Matthews, owner of the Poet & Patriot recently passed on after a year or so of battling lung cancer.

They sent him off in proper Irish-style with a wake to raise the dead.