Treatment for bloated stomach and acid indigestion - Munich

I have had for just over 2 years really bad problems with acid indigestion , which at times can be excruciating and prevents me from sleeping. This is accompanied by a severely bloated stomach and a lot of gas.

I eventually went for a check-up in my local hospital and they found 3 stomach ulcers which were removed. Since then, it seemed to settle down for some time but now it is getting worse again

I have tried all sorts of medications, Zantac, Gaviscon Advance, and many of the other German medications but they are only short-term solutions.

I need to see a specialist and try to get it sorted once and for all... anyone had similar problems and can suggest a solution? Anyone know a really good specialist in these problems that can maybe help me?

Thanks

try a homeopath... helped me, Dr. Wolf in Neufahrn is great! I can send you here number. Found out it was actully food allergies- milk and eggs, and since I cut them our of my diat- no problemo!

You really are a stress puppy aren't you?
If you have stomach ulcers, then there are several things that you need to do.
1)No milk or milk products!
2)No alcohol.
3)Increase your water intake to 4 liters per day minimum.
4)No coffee or tea.
5)Acid juices or spicy foods do not add to your problem, but they may irritate what is already there. However, salt is a spice that you should avoid because it messes with the osmotic balance.
6)If you are having ulcers, you need to get checked for H. Pylori.
7)Duodenal ulcers are very problematic and can lead to stomach/colon cancer. If you have H. Pylori or Herpes simplex viruses, you need to be treating the source and not the symptoms.
8)For H. pylori, homeopathy says to eat broccoli sprouts. This has been proven to cure this infection.
9)Antacids are not the way to go. They only treat the symptoms.
10) If you need a night-cap to help you sleep, then I suggest water, a twist of lemon and many dashes of Angostura Bitters.

I have acid reflex and here are my recommendations...
1. Ginger ale
2. soda water
3. licorice tea ( gross but it works)
4. watch your diet of course..tomatoes, garlic, alcohol, coffee etc..etc...
5. try to watch what you stress about..this is a BIG reason .

try increasing your fiber intake.

wow eurovol!!! if I was on the karma list I'd give you some. great info, more than my doc gave me which is really sad

Well my doctor did a food allergy blood test and the outcome was that I must avoid:

Wheat;
Oats;
Rye;
Buckwheat;
Other grains;
Milk & milk products (esp. cows milk);
Soya products;
Sunflower oil & seeds;
Pasta;
Man other things that I forget right now...

This is a bloody nightmare! When you start looking at labels, you realise how many foods have wheat or other grains, milk products and eggs... Needless to say, I have not stuck long to this diet as it is too restrictive and the alternatives are either hard to find or extremely expensive

Someone else told me that this is not really good and that it is better to eat balanced meals.

I think they said that I had H.Pylori... is there a chance that that can come back or not completely go away?

@eurovol, what are brocolli sprouts? Or do you mean brocolli and sprouts?

I find my acid is worse with beer, wine and wheat products... Neat Vodka seems to help sometimes

Contrary to popular belief, stress and spicy food do not cause ulcers... Ulcers are most often caused by Helicobacter Pylori bacteria. Stress, spicy foods etc do however worsen the symptoms.

Did you have the antibiotic treatment? Did you finish the course?
I don't have H. Pylori, mine were caused by stress and drinking shots due to stress.
Stopped both and now rarely have problems.

Try
Frau Dr. Hundegger
Am Harras 2
81373 Muenchen
Tel: 7675380

She's an internist and I've been going to her for years. Can only recommend her.

Yeah, I had antibiotics and also antacids. They said that the ulcers wouldn't return. Also I have read that once you have been treated for H.Pylori, you cannot get it again... but I feel just as crap as I did before... Anyone know if you can get it repeatedly?

Maybe I should go for another test...

I contacted a Homeopathic doctor today. I described my symptoms and she suggested buying "Sulphur D12" from the pharmacy. I looked on the internet too and seems a lot of people have used this homeopathic medication for gastric as well as skin problems with good results.

I just took my first tablet and my stomach feels a lot more relaxed and a lot of air is being expelled (thank your lucky stars that you are far away from me!

According to the instructions, there are no known side-effects. Costs about EUR 13,- for 80 tablets.

Would love to know if this helps others with these problems...

Am also going to have another Endoscopy on Monday morning and then a long discussion with the Homeopathic doctor on Tuesday to try and establish what the causes are...

You might want to experiment and stay away from onions, cabbage (sauerkraut or blaukohl), radishes (white and red), and weissbier (higher in gluten I think).

Broccoli sprouts-I mean broccoli seeds that are sprouting. The sulphur stuff you buy from a pharmacy is weak in comparison. Just like vitamins and minerals, the best is from nature and not in a pill. 40-60% of the population have H. pylori. Workers in a seedling factory that sprouted broccoli had 0%. They found out that the workers were hungry and munched on the sprouts. The sprouts contained extremely high doses of natural sulphur compounds known to cure H.pylori. You can get it again and again! There is no immunity to the shit at all! It is a master of bait and switch with your own cells.

If you are allergic to all those grains, then you are allergic to gluten also known as Celiac Disease. There are a few people on this board with the same problem. They could help you with working on your diet.

Stress is a big factor in ulcers dude. Do not downplay the role that stress has in a detrimental way. Stress is probably the leading cause of illness behind chemotoxic substances, viruses and pure genetics.

Edit: Lupo got the gluten post before me.

I swear by basica to sort out any inbalances and bring the body into order;

http://www.basica.de/

<parp> Phew, that's better!

@eurovol, where do I get broccoli sprouts man? Never seen such a thing...

<burp>

These sulphur tablets seem to be doing *something*... LOL

I think I am a little intolerant to wheat products and not completely intolerant like Celiacs... I tried, however, controlling grains in my diet but that is a bloody nightmare!!! <parp>

Oh, forgot... am not supposed to have malt products either... <burrrrrrp>

Now that it is planting season, buy tons of broccoli seeds and sprout them yourself. The mature plant does not have the same concentrations and substances. My PhD project was on curing H.pylori permanently, but the company folded. Soon thereafter came this report on broccoli sprouts. This is cutting edge homeopathy. No one outside of science really knows about it and so you can't buy it. As you need a new job, you might consider this as a new business to start up. I'll take 5% thank you.

Can you recommend a good cost-effective supplier of Broccoli Seeds?

I'm sorry, I know you meant that as a genuine question, I just think it's the strangest post I've ever seen on Toytown!

don't try to reduce the wheat products- cut them out completely... sounds bad, but believe me, with my allergies to milk and eggs, its much better I just don't eat them, I do much better, and the people around me can enjoy the air much better.

It really is not so easy to cut out eggs, milk products and grains from foods... It is hard enough at home, but eating out is much harder as you do not know what people have included in their products or sauces.

Tried it for a few months:

1) No milk (used rice milk which was expensive and bland);
2) No bread (made my own corn tortillas);
3) No pancakes (made my own lentil flour pancakes using Indian Dahl flour);
4) No batters with banned grains (used lentil or corn flours);
5) No sausages, burgers because of grains (except ones that I made);
6) some soups or sauces use thickeners with wheat (including OXOs if I remember rightly)...
7) No biscuits or cakes (because of grains, eggs, milk products);
8) No chocolate (milk products and sometimes grains);
9) No beer! WTF!?! (wheat and malt);
10) No cheeses except some sheeps cheeses or goats milk (expensive);
11) Tried goats milk powder in coffee (YUK!)
12) No Pasta (wheat flour and sometimes eggs);
13) No breaded schnitzels;
14) No Yorkshire Puddings - NO WAY MAN!!
15) No pies or puddings (wheat, eggs, milk);

My life was pretty damn miserable... My doctor did however say that I could drink wine, but that always made my acid worse... I have since given-up...

Satt-Gut in Sachsen-Anhalt. You can get the seeds by the ton!
I think it is in Quedlingburg. Beautiful city and great people. Seriously, it is something to think about. There is a scientific paper to back you up. Now it is 6%.
Consulting fees are cheaper by the dozen!

Aldi now has Soya Milk ,99c for a liter- three flavours- I use it in all my recipes, and haven't had a glass of milk since 96. I get violently ill if I do, so, its just not worth it! Once in a while I can eat some cheese, but really shouldn't, I know I will have to pay later.

A good friend of mine, has the gluten allergy, as she got better she realized that she could eat eggs and milk products. As she had cut them out of her diet also. She is doing great with the diet now... it was hard to adjust, but is doable.

Eating out is hard, but sushi, and asian foods are easier as you can have more control over how its prepared. Or just regular meat and potatoes.

I am a bit confused with the medical system here and am unsure if you can just make an appointment with an internist or whether you need to be referred. I was referred to one for an endoscopy and the results came back with no medical problems. When I went back to my GP they confirmed the results and told me that it was nothing to worry about. I asked what could be done about the continuing pain I get in my abdomin (I have had this for years and suspect IBS) but they just told me it was probably a food allergy - as they ushered me out the door! I would really like to know if I can just go to an internist and have an allergy test or whether there is something else I need to do!

My experience is that you can make an appointment direct with the internist. I wasn't transferred by my doctor, I just went along anyway.

You can go to an internist any time. If you are a member of the general insurance (gesetzliche Krankenkasse) you should get a transfer reference (Überweisungsschein) from your GP. In that case, the internist automatically forwards the results of any tests, examinations etc. to the GP. You can also go directly to the internist but will have to pay the required €10 per quarter all over again even if you have paid them somewhere else already and the results are not forwarded.
Sounds to me like you need a new GP. Did they discuss the results with you at all? Do you have a copy of the letter from the internist? See if you can get them, they might come in handy. Cheers.

Thanks very much for the info - No there wasn't any discussion of the results apart from that I may have a food allergy! I will go and see one of the Dr's recommended and take it from there.

I found a particular natural drink for dealing with inflammation in general. This is a cooling drink which may be taken on a weekly basis, i'd think this chinese formula is good with treating ulcers too. You may wish to drink it for a few days in a row for fast results.

Mung Bean Soup. (Organic if possible)

Just add a small cup of mung bean into any boiling pot with water and slow boil for half an hour to 1 till the beans come soft. Add in some natural rock or cane sugar if available.

I hope this will help your body to cool down and promote self healing - This simple drink will help to detoxify as well!

I am a lacto-vegetarian so my personal recommendations may be limited, but from what i can say for my vegetarian experience:- Less sicknesses, quick recovery if so, economical. Well it's a known fact that vegetables are much easier on stomach digestion than meat.

Hope to see your feedback if you do drink or eat so.

I am having similar issues at present, but they are undiagnosed.

I get a awful pain in my stomach like my stomach is full of acid, and my stomach feels really swollen and bloated. I end up using the loo often when the pain is bad.

I get diarrhea or a very loose stomach. I suffer from IBS but this is so much worse. It has been going on for about 3 months now and it is wrecking my life!

Get yourself to a doctor. It could be a parasite or a bacterial infection. The doc can do tests to find out.

Tombo, what advice do you expect other than "Go to a doctor. Today."?

I have been to the doctor. Im in the process of testing... I was just replying to the author of the article.

Yours must be the weirdest Toytown debut ever.

Well anyway Tombo, have you had a camera poked down you yet? That's a good way for doctors to find out what might be wrong.

Yes, do not believe them when they tell you an ultrasound of the stomach does the trick. My first doc in Germany (the idiot) tried to pull that one on me. You need a camera down your throat, and another one up your ass. Make sure they knock you out with some good drugs first.

2 stomach ulcers removed and still having problems - it seems to me that the Dr.`s advice is not hitting the spot. Agree on a homeopath here cos i didn't have ulcers admittedly but the homeopath was the first to regulate my over-sourness with a wee dose of medicine and gave me a list of basic foods and acid foods. The regular docs just wanted me to swallow tubes and have things stuck where I didn't want them stuck, so I ran away from that pretty quick (after flooring 1 doctor and 3 nurses who tried to stick a tube down my throat before I was sedated).

I was also mega-shocked to hear that I shouldn't eat too much pasta, fizzy drinks (even non-alcoholic), pork (Ok knew that), etc. etc. However, stuck to the diet (not ridgidly) for a couple of months - i.e. I only drink pure tap water now - no fizz, cut out coke, lemonade etc. reduced alcs (slightly) cut out pork (hard work in Bavaria admittedly) and low and behold - felt tons better.

This diet is something our foreign bodies don't seem to adjust to so well so that even the bacon butties can be a problem. But if you stick to the diet for a while and get a few drops of the medicine to neutralise things and then change your habits but not cut out completely - you should be OK. Good luck.

P.S. If you do need to swallow the tube - get them to sedate you and make sure they know that sedation means - I AM NOT AWAKE or I MAY MAKE YOUR LIFE DIFFICULT! A good surgery at Hauptbahnhof - if you need the address post me - as I need to look for the card. They were lovely.

I posted here ages ago... I had such bad acid indigestion that I was woken up out of my sleep coughing by breathing in the acid... :-( :-( My doctor recommended either taking acid blocker tablets the rest of my life or having an operation to repair my Hiatus Hernia.

I started the Metabolic Balance Stoffwechsel Programme in March... after only 2 weeks of doing this programme (changing my diet) I no longer needed tablets :-D :-D
As well as that I lost 21kg in 7 weeks with this programme with no "jojo effect" :-D

That's a pretty radical weight loss considering that the normal recommendation is about 1 kg a week. What does your skin look like?

After being told by a guest in my hostel that I have acid reflux, Im really glad to have stimbled on this thread. Got taken to the hospital in syd, way long ago and they couldn't tell me what was wrong. This guest was a good 2m away from me and I felt like I was having a heart attack, 2mins you have this. Oh god.