I call bullshit on the whole list.
Some folks are obviously on some kind of trip. I mean NOBODY gets that much +
I formally propose that with the current system being abused and generally maligned, that Editor Bob call a moratorium on further karma, start the whole thing from scratch and open it up so we can see who is playing fair and... well, not playing fair.
perdido
Jun 22 2005, 10:28 pm
I have only sent karma via "the button" three times (all pos) but decided to not participate again outside sending mental karma. I choose not to participate because it to me it is a bit like high school and I do not want to relive high school. I also do not use the ignore button. Have fun for those who are still joining in on Karma though.
RPW
Jun 22 2005, 10:43 pm
QUOTE (parnell @ Jun 22 2005, 3:18 pm)
Bob shot me off a mail - apparently you cant see RPY123454's post cos it's been moderated to being invisible.
@ parnell
Respekt. Bitch.

Oh yeah, and what does it mean to be moderated to being invisible? Can anyone see me? Hello? Hello? If I am now moderated to being invisible, does that mean that I can go the women's locker room and hang out?
eurovol
Jun 23 2005, 12:42 am
QUOTE
There are 17 communists who have chosen to opt out of the karma system.
I am a Democrat dammit!
I opted out soo long ago that it said the feature to opt out was being worked on. I was out, I was in and then I was out again. It almost felt like sex.
As for the karma givers, I don't want to see who and what they give karma to and for. To make it balanced, one only needs to see the +/- numbers that they actually give in conjunction with their actual +/- karma rating they have. I think that the "give karma" numbers would do a lot more to make the field fair. I do suspect certain people of giving negative karma intentionally and excessively. I think that the negative karma givers should be revealed. Contrary to (some) opinion, these anal retentives hurt more than they help.
Carm
Jun 23 2005, 12:55 am
I like the fact, I cannot see who or what gave me +ve or -ve karma, and they cannot see how I graded them... I am very selective in my karma- a good post or funny post gets +ve, and post that disturbes me or I totally disagree with, I sent -ve karma! I wouldn't be so free with my Karma's if I knew they could see me, as it only creates bad feelings and -ve karma.
And to those that say- all the people on top are 'connected', let me tell you, I am so not connected, and have been on top, I am just honest, and well, don't let the rating effect what I say.
eurovol
Jun 23 2005, 12:57 am
And that has been a message on Karm from Carm. Has a nice ring too it.
Carm
Jun 23 2005, 1:08 am
Hee, Hee, to drunk to really reply! But Thanks!!! it does have a nice ring- Karma from Carm!
Good to see the new log list. Provides some very interesting insight as to how people are using the system.
But sad to see the per post list go, that was the main point I thought. Oh well, since theres only a per user list now I guess karma MUST be a per user thing rather than a per post thing.
Get rid of the per user list, as it turns the whole thing into a popularity contest. (Keep per user karma as an internal variable of course though)
Bring back the per post karma list, but with an important change, include the misc and random posts. After all, if people are wanting to read the funniest, most interesting, or most controversial posts, they are in misc and random chat, and it would be good to find them easily by looking for the posts with the most extreme positive or negative karma.
Katrina
Jun 23 2005, 9:54 am
Where is the new log list? Ta
bubblylady
Jun 23 2005, 9:55 am
My Karma went down cause of this thread. I knew it's bad karma to (partly) agreee with Parnell
QUOTE
Where is the new log list? Ta
If you go to the normal karma page you can see a link that says Log file
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:01 am
Thanks EdBob!
Id rather certain people didnt agree with me either , I feel like I need a shower now.
Jimbo
Jun 23 2005, 10:02 am
Looking at that can I just say that 'anon3' is a complete miserable cunt. Thank you.
HollyGolightly
Jun 23 2005, 10:03 am
I'm now a communist and have been for some time...
I had pretty good karma but when I got knocked for the random pic thread I decided to opt out
I think some out there must find absolute delight in handing out neg karma

... I, on the other hand, always used my buttons in a benevolent manner
Jimbo
Jun 23 2005, 10:06 am
@Bubbles - that very comment in fact attracted a flurry of negative karma - which shows what a load of bullshit this system is, I mean what the fuck is there to dislike or like about a one line remark?
EDIT: And then some asshat decided to give me bad karma for this remark - I mean WHY? Anyway you can't you fucking fucks so fuck you.
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:12 am
@ Jimbo
None of it from me (in this case) - just wanna point that out
Wonder how u find out who's anonymousxx ? Any ideas Kza ?
Spudgun
Jun 23 2005, 10:12 am
bluddy hell...loads of you take it all a bit too serious dontcha!!!
look where I am on the Karma ratings board and do I give a toss?
no!
(and I bet that I'm gonna get loads of -ive karma for this posting but so what! bring it on!)
Jimbo
Jun 23 2005, 10:16 am
QUOTE
23.Jun.2005 09:30:26 anon13 gave Irish Lassie good karma 2 236272 Error: Karma may not be sent to self.
Kind of caught in the act there...
bubblylady
Jun 23 2005, 10:16 am
Spudgun, i gave you good karma for that

let's just be nice and give out good karma. It's a sunny summer's day

And the week end is close! Let's all be happy together
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:19 am
Im anon1 (obviously hehe)
karma to Jimbo for havin de cojones to post up 2!
EDIT : fuck - exceeded limit - will hit ya again
DOUBLE EDIT: uhhh just realised that Jimbo only outted someone else ... bit cheeky m8
FINAL EDIT: Double fuck ... anon XX - the XX just refers to the time karma was given - no use to ident members.crap
Yeti
Jun 23 2005, 10:22 am
Inflatablewoman gets sent negative karma from somebody ?
If that doesn't damn the whole system I don't know what does.
Jimbo
Jun 23 2005, 10:25 am
QUOTE
DOUBLE EDIT: uhhh just realised that Jimbo only outted someone else ... bit cheeky m8
Hey, it was you that wanted more transparency in the system...
Spudgun
Jun 23 2005, 10:28 am
Gasp..I'm actually in the positive Karma range now and quite frankly I don't like it very much.
Katrina
Jun 23 2005, 10:31 am
QUOTE (parnell @ Jun 23 2005, 11:19 am)
FINAL EDIT: Double fuck ... anon XX - the XX just refers to the time karma was given - no use to ident members.crap
Some are pretty easy to work out though - the positive and negative.
You just look for the matches, people tend to go repeatedly for the same log-ins.
The ban on karma being sent to those posts more than 4 days old has probably stopped some of the more, erm, specific voting though.
Eleanor_Rigby
Jun 23 2005, 10:34 am
Am I daft? I don't understand how the Anon(#) are given. Is each individual allocated a number or do they change?
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured out what number I am.
EDIT: Nevermind again, apparently I should be working instead
latecomer
Jun 23 2005, 10:35 am
QUOTE (interplanetjanet @ Jun 22 2005, 4:30 pm)
That's actually a good idea, papa geno. It would prevent people from giving negative karma just because they don't like someone.
fcuking ace. lol.
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:36 am
@ Silva
Number refers to the duration of the karma - last person to award karma will get anon1 , 2nd last anon2 etc so u can see ur own karma giving history by awarding a post karma and then checkin the log file quickly...
@ Katrina - ummm "work" it out ???
Jimbo
Jun 23 2005, 10:36 am
They change - so the numbers of the karma givers will always alter - you can see me messing about with it - karma awarded to parnell, me and yeti all in very short order, but all returning an error message was me messing about with the system...'my' number will change as more karma is awarded or taken away.
Inflatablewoman
Jun 23 2005, 10:36 am
QUOTE (Yeti @ Jun 23 2005, 11:22 am)
Inflatablewoman gets sent negative karma from somebody ?
My posts are apparently dumb.

I got given negative Karma by someone for posting the
What was No.1 on the day you were born?, Hit or Miss?? thread, I mean sure
women kissing, I can see that would be a bit offensive. But, posting a link gets me negative karma? Ha! ITS A FUCKING INTERNET FORUM!!!
anon5 YOU ARE AN ASS! [img]http://www.keithball.net/img/smileys/emot-sonia.gif[/img]
Thanks to Editor_Bob for making the Karma thing a little more transparent.
interplanetjanet
Jun 23 2005, 10:36 am
So one of my suggestions was that the karma system be started over once it's all finally decided on. Myself and a few others have loads of negative from back when it started and everyone could dole it out indefinitely and there were no limits set up. Now that there are limits, it should be restarted. I suggested this, but Editor Bob said no, it will all wash out in the end. Well, I don't think this is the case, because the plain fact that mine has been hovering around the same number for some time now means that just as many people dislike me as like me. Therefore, if that is true, it will always just hover around the same large negative number and never change. How then does it wash out? Statistics don't mean jack if they're biased from the beginning.
Katrina
Jun 23 2005, 10:38 am
Oh parnell, you just have too many haters to pick from!
I'm not one of them and my karma voting is relatively rare and rather specific, people who know me at all well will work it out if they are that bothered
Jimbo
Jun 23 2005, 10:38 am
O.K. - I'm gonna start a poll on this seemingly increasingly contentious issue. Let's see what the people think Comrade ipj.
Meh! I can't start a poll for some reason. Ho hum.
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:38 am
@ IW
So long as you keep postin hot pics in the underwear thread u gets k love from me.
@ IPJ - its a big improvement but still not there for a reset to be in order.
Wee Mun
Jun 23 2005, 10:39 am
Katrina, that would explain why the abominal one is out in front then eh!
Katrina
Jun 23 2005, 10:41 am
*looks innocently skyward*
Do find him genuinely funny (but then again I would)
Yeti
Jun 23 2005, 10:42 am
QUOTE
that would explain why the abominal one is out in front then eh
Aw shite, I thought it was my Christ like serenity, my Bond like suaveness, my Einstein like intelligence, my Elvis like sex appeal and last but not least my big feet.
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:42 am
QUOTE (Katrina @ Jun 23 2005, 11:38 am)
Oh parnell, you just have too many haters to pick from!
I'm not one of them and my karma voting is relatively rare and rather specific, people who know me at all well will work it out if they are that bothered

baby i knew it wasnt you ...
Im happy to provoke strong (negative) reactions ... i just want them to let me know why so i can tear them a new asshole on the board ... thats called "debate".
Wee Mun
Jun 23 2005, 10:42 am
Katrina must be anon1
latecomer
Jun 23 2005, 10:43 am
QUOTE (interplanetjanet @ Jun 23 2005, 11:36 am)
...Statistics don't mean jack if they're biased from the beginning.
statistics don't mean jack if you just going to wipe them out coz you are losing/winning

why not have a weekly karma rating? gets wiped every sunday night. that way no-one ends up too far ahead or behind
Yeti
Jun 23 2005, 10:44 am
@Parnell
You'll get multiple lifetimes of positive canma from me for your efforts to bring the "dosenpfand" debate to the TT public.
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:45 am
@ Yeti
I thought I did that already ??? If someone finds that thread Ill repost the pic.
EDIT:
Banned in 5...4...3...2...1... bye...
Moonboot
Jun 23 2005, 10:46 am
@ Parnell
was that you who posted the Dosenpfand pic?
interplanetjanet
Jun 23 2005, 10:47 am
QUOTE
statistics don't mean jack if you just going to wipe them out coz you are losing/winning
That's not the point. Those, like myself, with large negative numbers were probably put there by a handful of people when they could just sit there clicking the button over and over (except MarcusBlair and islander, since it's quite obvious that everyone hates them).
Yeti
Jun 23 2005, 10:47 am
@Parnell
I meant your past efforts, karmadocious !
parnell
Jun 23 2005, 10:48 am
QUOTE (Moonboot @ Jun 23 2005, 11:46 am)
@ Parnell
was that you who posted the Dosenpfand pic?
Does the Pope wear a funny hat ?
I think it was you who actually gave me the balls to post it...
speakin of nostalgia ... anyone seen Jules lately ?
EDIT: uhh there he is ! yo homie!
Malcolm Spudbury
Jun 23 2005, 10:50 am
QUOTE
Error: Karma may not be sent to self.
You also get this if you try to give karma to one of your alternate usernames.
Which is nice.
interplanetjanet
Jun 23 2005, 10:52 am
Is that why my hubby had trouble once giving me karma (one of the few times he's even logged in)? He was assumed to be an alter ego?
Eleanor_Rigby
Jun 23 2005, 10:53 am
Ed Bob, is there any reason we can't have our own Anon(#)?
That way we can choose whether we want to make our own # public knowledge.
Moonboot
Jun 23 2005, 10:54 am
QUOTE (parnell @ Jun 23 2005, 11:48 am)
Does the Pope wear a funny hat ?
I think it was you who actually gave me the balls to post it...
speakin of nostalgia ... anyone seen Jules lately ?
as if?
shucks.
Inflatablewoman
Jun 23 2005, 10:59 am
QUOTE (Silva @ Jun 23 2005, 11:53 am)
Ed Bob, is there any reason we can't have our own Anon(#)?
chuckle
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