Starbucks Coffee - new openings in Munich

RIP, Mövenpick .

They served a really good chicken tandoori salad, too.

Starbucks is fine as long as it stays in the states, some kind of coffee fast-food, but has nothing to do with a Kaffeehaus. A Kaffeehaus has got a history, got patina, got style, got real staff, real waiters - not some students on parole, got Kaffehausmusik (some even live) doesn't look like an IKEA exhibition room and doesn't sell Litschi-Mocca-Coco-Samboa-Frickin-Hand-plucked-cleaned-Fair-Trade-Frappe-Latte with a itty-bitty tiny hint of cinnamon to it and you can have a smoke... Starbucks is some kind of lounge but is as close to a Kaffehaus, as a porn-wank-booth to the Staatstheater. It's a pain in the arse.

Rischardt by the way isn't anything close to either old nor traditional... it's on Marienplatz and build to serve as many tourists as possible in the shortest amount of time.

and what about the 5% of profits invested in social caues in the coffee growing areas?
and the insistance of a high percentage of recylcled material in their shops?
i think you'll find they have a high ethical rating than a hell of alot of companies.

sure you might not like them and? they do a hell of alot more than some smelly grimy old kaffeehause full of nicotine addicts. if anything starbucks has created its own market and not taken away from those pensioner-dives.

If you like a smoke-free atmosphere, child-friendly facilities, good service, the chance to surf the net... go to Starbucks. If you enjoy somewhere with more *ahem* character, then go to michi's caff.

If you want good atmosphere (+child-friendly, but OK no toddlers-paradise-playground thingie or something around), good service, the chance to surf on the net, superb "real" food and a place with character, go to i.e. "Cafe am Beethovenplatz" or also called "Mariandl". If you enjoy somewhere with more *ahem* dullness, then go to Starbucks.

define child friendly... i've found most places wih "charater" to be expensive, out of the way, have no changing facilities nor high chairs and are populated by hung over childless who seem to practice dirtty stares when my kids breath louder than a meditating tibetan monk. these places though have not suffered due to starbucks and never will, as each serves a different clientel.

I'm a Peet's convert myself (not that I've ever been a Starbuck's person), but Starbuck's makes a damn fine green tea latte. Nummy. One thing that pisses me off about them, though, is that they sell water with the brand name "Ethos" saying that there's a donation to charity with every bottle. If you read the fine print, for every $2 bottle of water they give 5 cents. So they hike the price of a bottle of water up $0.50-$1 and then give 5 cents of it to charity...

Is this a new swear word or something? Bow down to those with children...

Child friendly by HS terms: kids are strapped to their chairs, get gaged, blindfolded and are stored away in a wet dark room in the basement for further educational measures...

My parents could bring me up without having a place in every darn restaurant to change me and most kids after some time don't need this anymore, but seems like these days this isn't possible anymore or is regarded as not child friendly. As long as kids can play around that's fine and I respect that and you won't hear a complain by me or most of my friends and if you don't take em somewhere after a certain time, a time they shouldn't be out anymore anyhow, you won't encounter any hung-over evil childless.

Gotta admit though that my patience stops when some little prat is starting to play around with my food(!), drinks or belongings, only because his parents can't be bothered of giving him some attention the little bugger so desperately seeks... if you are lookong for a serviced playschool, go there, otherwise accept that as much as I respect the right of your kids to act as such, you gotta respect that just because I share to go to the same place as you chose to, doesn't necessarily mean I went there to be the playmate of your little ones.

Fucking starbucks

Why exactly is starbucks 'fine as long as it stays in the states"? What is the difference between them opening there and here in Germany?

I've no idea what this idea of a "kaffeehaus" is that you have, but I'm sure Starbucks isn't trying to be one. I don't know what the hell "patina" means, maybe that's because I'm just not intellegent enough, and maybe that's why I go to Starbucks. Or, maybe I just like the place. Either way, I shouldn't have to defend that choice.

What are you trying to say here? That students shouldn't work, full stop? That they shouldn't work for Starbucks? If it was a 50 year old serving in Starbucks would that be ok?. If the student brought you the coffee would that be ok? A lot of traditional (especially working class) cafes in the UK have the same setup as Starbucks, where you order what you want at the counter and then get it yourself when it's ready and take it to your seat. Do you have a problem with them as well? I'm with cinzia on this, sometimes it's nice to be able to just decide what you want, order and pay for it and then just leave when you're ready without having to deal with the rudeness that passes for "service" in some places here. In my experience, the places with the best and most friendly service are often those staffed by students trying to earn some money while they study, whether that's somewhere like Starbucks, or somewhere where they are traditional waiters/waitresses.

If you don't like the decor and the cofee don't go there. It's simple.

Are you saying that by definition if it serves coffee you should be able to smoke there? Without wanting to rehash the whole no smoking thread, the smokers on there say "if you don't like the smoke go somewhere else". When I say I go somewhere else because it's no smoking you jump on me for it. Do you not think non smokers should have there option of going for a coffee in a non smoking environment?

That's the kind of statement I make when I don't like something but can't present an intelligent argument as to why. Like I said, if you personally don't like their coffee shops, don't go there. Beyond that, why should it affect you at all, and why should it be "a pain in the arse".

At the end of the day, they open more branches because there is the market for them, i.e. people want to go there (nobody is forced through the door at gunpoint). Just because they aren't to your taste, or don't conform to your idea of what a "kaffeehaus" is doesn't make them any less valid, or mean that people who do want to go there shouldn't have that option. Just live and let live, and accept that some people, for various reasons like Starbucks.

I had my very first Starbucks experience a couple of months ago. I was passing by with a friend and she wanted to get something. So, I ventured inside with some trepidation. This was the big nasty Starbucks chain afterall. The friendly person behind the counter smiled and asked what I'd like. After perusing the big menu for a minute or so I ordered a chilled caramelly-chocolatey-coffeyey (?) drink. I think it was the large size. It was very nice indeed. I left with my drink and consumed it whilst wandering towards Odeansplatz. The world didn't stop turning, which was nice. In fact I seem to recall a couple of little birds twittering on a branch at one point. I think I might go in there again when next I'm passing by.

MunichMag, I think we're going to get along just fine.

woof.

Hooray for you, MM. You posted what I couldn't be bothered to yesterday.

I'm so happy I won't run into the likes of HS while trying to enjoy a coffee, with or without mini-cinzia.

Anywho, I just returned from a stroll through Hauptbahnhof, where they're putting in a roomy-looking Starbuck's at the exit to Bayerstrasse (next to track 11 in the main arrivals hall.) Edit: I guess pike beat me to this announcement.

(For those of you who know EurAide, the new Starbuck's has displaced it. EurAide is now located behind the Reisezentrum, in the hallway where Segafredo coffee and a newsstand are on the corner.)

hello this is the year 2001. your parents did not demand the service and facilities that modern day parents do. its called progress. your parents also did not put you in a car seat, subjected you to second hand smoke and allowed you to play and chew on lead painted toys. they also were more than likley happy to have you wet and smell in a terry nappy or had to change you ballanced on a toilet seat. do me a favour ask your mum next time you see her how she would have prefered it? i know mine thinks things are much better now.

any ways starbucks redefined caffeehouses as an open modern and youthful. they reenergised the market. and you know what. i like em. they fit more into my life style.

and i 'd love one at pasing, the italian restaurant across from the HBf has closed down and is empty.

So anyway, sort of not really on topic, do the Munich Starbucks coffee concoctions have the same burnt-leather taste as the Starbucks products I was duped into purchasing here in Pennsylvania? Probably just my barbaric palate, but it struck me that the helpful barista must've thoughtfully seasoned my cup with just a pinch of dirt.

(And no, don't think it was just a bad bean batch that day. I have that condition where I find myself back there every couple months or so, thinking it'll really be good this time. Terrible malady -- of course I get the large size -- and sorry, don't have my English-Starbucks Wörterbuch handy, so I can't recall whether the volume of discarded coffee equates to venti or grande or whatever.)