mightypies
May 18 2005, 10:00 am
Cleaning out my old housemates's room, I found a nazi pin, with Treu Den Deutschen Fürher written around a swastika. Am keen to keep it, not because I'm one of them, but for historical value. Is that not a good thing to do? Does anyone know any badge sites where I could find out it's origins?
interplanetjanet
May 18 2005, 10:08 am
Keep it!!! Check out how much it's worth on the collector's market. It may very well be worth a lot.
mightypies
May 18 2005, 10:17 am
I've done a few quick searches for it, and found badges very similar, but not with those words. It's a small round lapel badge, with a black swastika on a white background in the middle, and a red circle on the outside with the words in silver.
Any idea where there'd be a collectors magazine/site?
interplanetjanet
May 18 2005, 10:20 am
Can you send me a pic of it? I've got a friend who is a collector (no, he's not a nazi). I can forward it to him and have him look it up. He's got loads of collector mags.
mightypies
May 18 2005, 10:26 am
Digital camera's haven't yet made their way into my life yet, but to get an understanding of what it looks like, it's the same as the second pin on
this page only the words on the outside say: 'Treu Dem Deutschen Führer'.
Cheers
interplanetjanet
May 18 2005, 10:32 am
Ok, I just sent him an email. I'll let you know what he says.
Inflatablewoman
May 18 2005, 12:37 pm
Ooooo, I like it!! Would be interested in having that!!!

Whats the quality of it like?
Kza
May 18 2005, 12:40 pm
Hmm I just googled the phrase from work.. But now I realised its not the best phrase to google for at work.. Oh well, didnt bring any results back.
mightypies
May 18 2005, 12:43 pm
The quality is not too bad - a little chip on one edge - looks kind of old, so probably an original. There's an old iron cross too - not sure if that is an original as it's got faded edges to all four points of the cross, but even though the cross is from ww2, it seems to feature prominently on nazi badge sites. thanks for the input so far ladies and gents.
haldur
May 30 2005, 10:08 pm
Glad I stumbled upon this thread because I have something very special. My grandfather fought in WW2 and gave me a box, with a Swastika on the top, wood bottom and containing the following items:
- a round Nazi badge, Swastikia in the middle on a white background; around the edge is a red border with the words "NATIONAL-SOZIALISTISCHE-D.A.P.". This item is in excellent condition!
- two "family-crest" badges (identical) with a golden eagle/phoenix upon it; the bird is holding what looks like a sword in one claw and a ball with a cross in the other claw; the coloring is black running diagonally along white, splitting the background of the badge; there are two ribbons that hang from the badges with the following printing upon them "Prenssischer Landes-Kriegerverband" on one ribbon and "Mil Gott fiir Konig und Vaterland!" on the other. Both badges are the same, with some minor scratch damage on each metal and some tearing on the ribbons.
- a round, gold badge with symbols of eagle's wings, an anchor, a shovel, pick axe, a hot air balloon, and an old fighter plane. Around the edge it reads "125 JAHRE EHEM.KGL.BAYER.INGENIEURKORPS.1813-INGOLSTADT-1938". Excellent condition!
- a red, rectangular badge with a picture of two hands clasped together, Swastika in the background that reads "Deine hand" above the shaking hands and "Dem handwerk" underneath. Excellent condition!
- a large, oval, silver badge with a large ship in the middle, an eagle perched on the top of the badge, resting on the Swastika; it reads "SEEFAHRT" to the left of the Swastika and "1st NOT" to the right; along the sides it reads "TAG DR DEUTSCHEN" and "SEEFAHRT 25.26.5.1935". Excellent condition!
- a small rectangular badge; gold border with a picture of what looks like a red wall with white trim; the badge reads "RIFUGIO PASSO SELLA"; also has a blue insignia upon it that looks like a "C" with a picture of tower behind it. Excellent condition!
- a copper-colored (faded) badge, family crest shaped, depicting a young boy looking up or chasing after a fighter plane that is sailing through the sky; Swastika at top of badge; medium to good condition, does have some rust spots and what looks like water damage but is still discernable
- a black cross badge of sterling silver; also in excellent condition!
- I also have some other items (including the box itself) which may or may not be of any importance...one is what appears to be a cigarette "propaganda" card with a black and white picture of Hitler and a few of his high commanders walking through what appears to be the streets of Paris, France circa WW2. On the back the card reads "Kampf um's Dritte Reich, Sild 206, Reichs'fanzler Hitler und Bizefanzler von Papen auf dem BBege zur Garnifonfirche, Diefe Silder liegen in den Padungen unferer Calem Cigaretten, Cammelalben fur ie 273 Silder find gegen Boreinfendung von RM 1.--durch uns oder durch ieden Handler erhaltlich." Then at the bottom it reads "SALEM Cigarettenfabrik G.M.B.H. Dresden A.5"
- The box also contains a paper button (that appears to have at one point either held a picture or a light-weight badge of some sort. The outer rim of the badge is red, silk-like material and on the inside is written "Burgerverein Harmonie E.V. Neunkirchen, Saar".
If anyone knows what to make of these or would like to purchase these items, contact me here on this thread or email me at haldur_ithilian@yahoo.com for details! I am being completely legitimate about this claim, don't have some pictures of the items but I can honestly assure you that they are authentic (my grandfather, Pvt. Otis Wayne Felty served in the Second World War during the end of the European theater. He served in France and Germany, finding this box in a German soldier's possession during battle.)
Again, if you are honestly interested in purchasing this box and the items it contains, contact me at my email at haldur_ithilian@yahoo.com or contact me via telephone @ (859)744-7098.
Tim
May 30 2005, 10:15 pm
QUOTE
it's the same as the second pin on this page
Where I find a site dedicated to:
QUOTE
Helping you create the ultimate Adolf Hitler Third Reich Nazi pins badges and shields collection.
THANK GOD FOR Toytown.
The crap we dig up here.
interplanetjanet
Jun 3 2005, 10:48 am
@mightypies - get me some pics of it.
Here's his reply:
QUOTE
As far as your friend's pin is concerned, I have not seen or heard of one with that particular text around the outer rim. There were many different types that conformed to the standard NSDAP party pin (red border with text in silver, white center with black hakenkreuz). I would be able to give you a better assessment of it if you could send me a pic (of front AND back). If you can't provide a pic, can you tell me what the markings are on the reverse? What size? What style attachment pin? Is the enamel smooth, not pock-marked? Is the red enamel translucent with a pattern visible underneath? You can see how this is kinda difficult without pix...I could go on and on.
Anyway, try and get me a pic and I can assess its originality and value with more confidence.
@haldur - If you send me pics, I'll send them and your post above to the same friend. He'd be able to tell you more, since he's a collector.
mightypies
Jun 3 2005, 10:57 am
@ipj
Thanks for this. At present, I'm a tad too hungover to reply to all of those questions, and am yet to find a page with the badge on it - might therefore not be a collectors item, but still. The text, however, doesn't say Treu dem Deutschen Führer' as I thought (It was a calculated guess after seeing it a couple of times - again, hangoverness came into play).
The text says 'Treu Unser Führer Hitler'. The quality, while not dirty or smeared, is not mint, unfortunately. It's got a chip on one edge, however the chip affects only the enamel, and not the writing or the background. The backside of the badge (about the size of a one euro coin, btw) has the name of the manufacturer, which due to my cracking headache this morning, I can't remember it.
Not much use not remembering things, am I?
The Iron Cross however is of some interest. It's a shame that the corners seem faded because the cross itself and the fabric used for the lapel part look convincing.
interplanetjanet
Jun 3 2005, 11:14 am
Well, I'll wait to contact him further until you've sat down and described it in gory detail, including the manufacturer name and the type of pin attachment on the back.
Get a friend with a digicam to snap it!
Malcolm Spudbury
Jun 3 2005, 11:30 am
There's a shop on Westenriederstr that has WW2 badges, etc, in the window. They might be able to help.
It's on the left if you're walking from the
S-Bahn exit at Isartorplatz.
mightypies
Jun 3 2005, 11:35 am
Last time I got a mate to digicam something he took a pic of a heffer in bed. You can see why I might be a bit wary.
Will bring a description into work on Monday. Thanks heaps for the info though, very kind of you.
Hazza
Jun 3 2005, 4:19 pm
QUOTE
he took a pic of a heffer in bed
What?? The tractor?
baabaa black sheep
Jul 1 2005, 12:26 am
also found this dialoge interesting as I discovered a family heirloom in the attic the other day. Was disappointed as the swatika and adler had been removed -it is along sheathed knife in hitler brown and the knife has the words Alles Gute für Deutschland ingraved in old script date on steel the date 194? is also on it. Bit rusty in places. Im also not a closet Nazi but think it is part of what was a significant historical event therefore interesting
interplanetjanet
Jul 1 2005, 7:52 am
Send me a picture and a *very* detailed description (meaning every last possible distinguishing mark, especially maker stamps), and I can consult my collector friend about it for you.
bludger
Jul 1 2005, 9:03 am
I am not 100% sure, but I think it is illegal to sell Nazi memorabilia here in Germany. I did notice a shop near
Viktualienmarkt, however, which seems to sell a lot of such things, so I could be wrong. All the items in the window do have a little sticker over the Swastika though. I guess you could sell it there, but I doubt if you could get a good price. I would suggest being careful selling such stuff over ebay from a German address too.
Jimbo
Jul 1 2005, 9:25 am
Try and access the english ebay section on Nazi stuff from Germany - the site will detect your IP and tell you that you're 'possibly in an area where looking at such stuff is illegal' and not let you in. Or at least that's what happened to me last year when I tried.
crowes
Jul 1 2005, 9:43 am
jimbo your right my mate at work a collector of nazi stuff told me you cant sell it on the uk website but its fine in the german ebay site. do you think thats strange as you cant really wear londsdale clothing in germany but you can sell nazi gear
interplanetjanet
Jul 1 2005, 10:07 am
I just did a search on "nazi" on ebay.de and got lots of stuff. I've even seen a full SS uniform on ebay.de before.
@bludger - where exactly is that shop? I went looking for it the other day, but I thought it was closer to the
Hofbrauhaus and couldn't find it.
Jimbo
Jul 1 2005, 10:08 am
Now try www.ebay.co.uk...
interplanetjanet
Jul 1 2005, 10:18 am
Jimbo
Jul 1 2005, 10:36 am
I know - but when I went to access if from Germany it refused me permission. P'raps the law's changed since then.
Kiwistylz
Jul 1 2005, 10:41 am
When i was in Bulgaria...i saw a couple of stalls selling old nazi pins and uniforms kgb stuff. There were hundreds of old nazi medals and knives etc. Maybe i should have bought some to sell for profit since they are so sought after...
bludger
Jul 6 2005, 4:50 pm
QUOTE (interplanetjanet @ Jul 1 2005, 11:07 am)
@bludger - where exactly is that shop? I went looking for it the other day, but I thought it was closer to the
Hofbrauhaus and couldn't find it.
Westenriederstr - at the
Viktualienmarkt end.
Sorry for the late reply, I don't always immediately check through my old threads.
interplanetjanet
Jul 6 2005, 5:02 pm
Thanks!
sorry for sounding a prig...and i'm not knocking the historical value of such items...but why the hell would anyone want it in a private collection...to the original poster here...just donate the trash to a local museum and be shot of it...sorry...just an opinion
Kebab Meister
Jul 6 2005, 9:30 pm
I have one of
these.It's a 1939 spange to the First World War Iron Cross. I think holders of the Iron cross were awarded the spange at the outbreak of WW2. Not 100% sure.
I've owned it since about 1979 whereas before it belonged to a relative. It's very solid and well built and I did have a specialist look at it and he confirmed it was genuine although I don't have a value of it. Wouldn't think it would be worth a great deal mind.
figgscoob
Oct 19 2007, 2:44 pm
I found a pin in my grandmothers Jewelry box that I can not seem to find any information on. There is nothing written on the pin at all. Its a swasticka with two shiney blue stones. One stone on either side of the swastika. Anyone know where to find out more on it???
Thanks!
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SleeplessInMunich
Oct 19 2007, 2:46 pm
Are you sure its a Nazi swastika?
canaryman
Oct 19 2007, 2:53 pm
I have a Robinsons Golliwog pin from the 1930s limited edition. I was given it as a kid and never thought much of it until I was wearing it one day and my friends dad offered me 75 quid for it. I still have it and wear it as tie pin though I doubt you should wear your pin
Have it checked out as it may be worth more (or less) than you think. Good Luck.
jeremy
Oct 19 2007, 3:06 pm
I used to have a collection of those Robinson golliwogs playing different instruments! Dunno where they are now.
Shame I used to love playing with my golliwog years ago.
garibaldi
Oct 19 2007, 5:02 pm
QUOTE (jeremy @ Oct 19 2007, 4:06 pm)

Shame I used to love playing with my golliwog years ago.
Take it up again. But check the palms of your hands regularly.
canaryman
Oct 19 2007, 5:20 pm
QUOTE (jeremy @ Oct 19 2007, 4:06 pm)

I used to have a collection of those Robinson golliwogs playing different instruments! Dunno where they are now.
Shame I used to love playing with my golliwog years ago.
I had a golliwog that my aunt made me in needle work class. It went everywhere with me until I was made to put it away, but I think the reason I had to put it away would have to go on the PC thread.
Those little enamel badges are quite popular and some are very expensive.
The Nazi stuff can be expensive but I just missed out on a complete Waffen SS officers desk-writing set in a shop in Austria, that was a bargain. (The locals cannot buy it, legally) according to the lady in the shop.
There used to be an antiques shop in Warwick that consists of lots of little shops inside.(Actually it is still there!!) They used to have loads of Nazi war stuff but as a kid (I was about 9 or 10) the thing I wanted was the MG42 in the shop window. Yes it was real and no matter how I begged, my father said "NO".
jamie
Oct 19 2007, 5:26 pm
QUOTE (figgscoob @ Oct 19 2007, 3:44 pm)

I found a pin in my grandmothers Jewelry box that I can not seem to find any information on. There is nothing written on the pin at all. Its a swasticka with two shiney blue stones. One stone on either side of the swastika. Anyone know where to find out more on it???
Thanks!
Could you post an image of the pin?
RubyTuesday
Oct 19 2007, 6:50 pm
was she involved in any of the youth clubs - maybe she got the pin there? it could have also been for her wedding. What year did she marry?
My friend came across a wedding edition of Mein Kampf in one of her family trunks. It was all white with an ornate gold clasp.
Maybe this is one lead for the pin ... perhaps it was for a certain milestone?
It sounds like you are more interested in the pin's history rather then the value, correct? If yes, I would take it in to an archivist or professor specializing in this period and start there.
spanky
Nov 22 2007, 6:58 pm
Hi, I'm a newbie to the site, while digging through some old stuff at my parent house i came upon an Enameled Lapel Pin. The Pin shows The Swastika (Hakenkreuz) Flag, a Japanese Flag and in between, the Italian Flag, the back of the Pin has the name of the Maker and the word Firenza stamped into it. Any thought as to what it means? thanks, Spanky.
miwild
Nov 22 2007, 8:02 pm
... The three major
Axis powers , Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan were part of a military alliance on the signing of the
Tripartite Pact on September 1940, which officially founded the Axis powers ...
Dafydd
Nov 22 2007, 8:22 pm
I found a full SS Officers uniform in the bottom of a drawer recently. I like to prance up and down in it with my big shiny leather boots.
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