Which American cities fit you best?

@interplanet

We in Austin would welcome your arrival, as evidenced by the vast amount of California license plates already in the city and the hourly "nerd bird" between San Jose and Austin

Ah, Gary, Indiana. Truly one of the jewels of the midwest.

Yeah, sure, in the shittiest cities, you can get an idea of the quality of life immediately, but not in cities that people would actually live in by choice.

Gary Indiana - home town of Michael Jackson ... uhm, actually, they are trying to forget that bit... happier to be known as Murder Capital USA.

@RPW

I hope it's nothing like Dallas. I went to the "Dallas Freedom Fest," and as we drove in we heard several people saying "fucking Californian hippies." WTF?! We were there to see America, Stephen Stills, Joe Walsh and Don Henley! (and so were they!!!)

oh, you meant only the "non-shity" cities. OK.

Actually, I meant the ones that virgil was ignorantly referring too (i.e. the ones in his post).

@ interplanetjanet

Austin is the complete opposite of the ghastly city 3 hours north. In the 60's and 70's, if you weren't wearing a belt buckle the size of a kitchen plate and you were considered "counterculture," Austin was the only place in Texas you could go without being persecuted due to the University (60,000 stoned college students can't be wrong). Thus, it has stayed that way, with just alot more techies and transplants from a certain large western state with overpriced real estate and Austrian political figures. Thanks Michael Dell, thanks alot. Dallas is a big, sprawling suburb and has nothing in common with Austin.

Edit. But oh yeah, those transplants help keep living prices high, thus the rif-raf you ran into in Dallas have to stay up there. With their mullets.

65% Las Vegas
65% San Francisco
65% Seattle
60% Portland
55% Denver

Viva Las Vegas!!!

@ interplanetjanet

Oh prey tell the ignorant majority what quality of life issues there are that cannot be judged by visiting a place.

Oh prey tell what is so poor about each of those cities that they deserve 0% (aside from them being in the USA, which is apparently your reason)?

Haha, fucking figures. Just took a look at virgil's posts and 75% of them are "America sucks."

Oh dear, look what you've done Virgil! You know expressing your opinion is frowned upon by IPJ if it's not in line with hers!
Now you've got super spy on your ass!

C'mon, Timmeh, you can come up with better than that.

@ interplanetjanet

I dont like americans. I used to but I don't anymore. I find them to arrogant, continually inflicting their opinions on the rest of the world, pretending to be policing when really they are really they are just having to repair previous bad foreign policy. America itself has values
more asociated with dollars than anything else, there is no wellfare, the "price of life" (the amount of money to be gained from you before someone else will kill you) is way to low; there is real poverty and no education system, for all.

I am well educated, earn a lot of money, and would much rather see 40% of it go to the state than live in America and have more in my pocket.

Hahaha, keep it coming.

Note to everyone else: For those of you who think that people don't equate Americans with the American government, here's your prime example!

Edit: Blair's a tit, so I hate Brits!!!

Thats funny. I'd live in oakland any day.

My favourite place is either this place or Tilden, one of the regional parks that boasts the best views around, serious camp grounds, swimming holes, hiking trails, a water reserve, some redlands and a couple of golf courses. Theres lots of stuff for the wee ones as well, including a steam train. Its enormous, and runs above Oakland. Here's a piccy:

[img]http://graphics.stanford.edu/~lucasp/pictures/bike/ContraCosta/bike-tildencow.jpg[/img]

But since you can't live in the park, here's a real estate blurb:

Oakland is over 150 years old and has a population of 400,000 plus residents. In the Oakland Hills lives approximately 30 percent of Oakland's population. Sixty percent of the Hills residents have at least a bachelor's degree with a median household income of $75,000. The area is diverse in its ethnic makeup: 56 percent of its residents are white, 20 percent are African American, 14 percent are Asian American and 7 percent are Hispanic.

The city centre is crap but there's no business, and therefore very little reason to visit there. The city itself though, like most other cities, have really great diverse neighborhoods. Theres healthy ethnic quarters and tourist attractions like the wharf area. It has its own little Schwabing type neighborhoods as well.

Oakland hills is amazing...expensive as hell since theres a boat load of mini-masions with bay area views. Though you need seriously big bucks for that. There are plenty of regular neighborhoods, like the rest of the bay area its expensive, but definitely livable

@IPJ
if you expect me to get abusive like yerself, your barking up the wrong tree ladeh!
I'll make you a deal, I'll do better than that if you give up your sleuth ways, show yourself to the world by not being invisble and give up reading through every single post of everyone you argue with (which seems to be a very common occurence).

I have not been abusive in the slightest. Sure, I used a internet-forum-no-no-word, but only because it was the only appropriate word.

Hmmm, a bit paranoid, Timmeh?

Oh, sorry, I did a Timmeh no-no. How dare I disagree with US-bashing. I should respect and accept all anti-US statements as the god's honest truth. I forgot.

You voted for the American government, I didn't !

Really? I don't remember a vote on whether or not the US government should exist.

No only non-americans can vote for that.

Either way from what I wrote, if you read it, only one sentence was about the U.S. government the rest was about the America.

@jml, your picture looks a lot like Bayern!

Your point, virgil?

Thank you. Europe 1 : 0 America.

Word of God. He says now is the time to introduce my funky chicken.

Cute, virgil. Sorry, but you don't win by declaring it. That's ok, though, I'm fully aware you're just a troll.

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@ IPJ

virgil is amongst my ignored users but I can imagine what he's writing. Virgil has obsessive-compulsive disorder; he can't help but say something negative about the US at any opportunity (like this completely benign post which has nothing to do with any sort of hot topic). Don't bother with Paxil-boy.

Paranoid?? Not in the slightest! Wahine, I'm not the one hiding

You don't have to except anyone's post as God's honest truth, this is a forum of opinions, not truths, so there isn't a need to get yer knickers up yer bum crack about this topic each and every time, it's only Virgil's opinion.

Not abusive in this thread,no, but you've become very abusive on certain threads to myself and other people. Not to mention the foul-mouthed PM's you send off to various posters!

I can't bring myself to ignore any of the twat posters in this forum, as much as I'd like to ignore them, I'm far too interested in the feaces spurting from their mouths

Timmeh, I've never, ever been abusive to you. Yes, I've called you on it while you were US-bashing, but that's hardly abuse.

Foul-mouthed PMs to various posters? Really? Name them all. Marshbot? One statement in a single PM hardly constitutes foul-mouthed PMs to various posters.

As for virgil's opinion, I have no problem with virgil having an opinion. He's quite welcome to spout out ignorant shit whenever he wants. I'm not stopping him by pointing it out.

Btw, I'm hardly hidden. It's possible to look through all my posts and even see if I'm online. It's perfectly reasonable to log in as anonymous to avoid stalkers like you.

DriveWest : "...but I can imagine what he's writing. "

This is what America and Americans base their foreign policy and arrogant remarks on. I am more used to dealing with facts and valid opinions.

You americans just dont get it. Do you not wonder WHY the rest of the world dislikes you so much, at present. We - the rest of the world - did not base our opinions on " I can imagine what they might do " but on real actions that affect the rest of the world.

Haha. Timmeh and virgil are furiously typing a reply. Who's got their knickers up their bum? And you know what? I'm not even gonna bother reading them. I'm outta here to get some work done. Have fun, kiddos!

IPJ has retreated to go play with her atom bombs and stealth fighters in area 51 the rest of us will have to make do with lesser toys, no guns, no fastfood, but it is better that way else they might get in the hands of ignorant morons

Ok, it's decided then. Honolulu, here I come!

@IPJ, not me, I'm going commando, it's washing day today.
I'm not saying you're abusive on calling me on what you percieve as US bashing. I'm talking about outright abusiveness eg name calling. Didn't you ever learn "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"?
Do the PM's to Marshbot ring any bells at being a potty mouth?? I think it's wiser if you don't drink before logging on to TT.

@DrivinWest

Thanks for the fantastic suggestion! I've never had any names on my ignored user list before. Now I've got two. Shoulda done this a looooong time ago...

While there is poverty in the US and some that are under educated, it is by far one of the most wealthy countries on the planet. In addition, why is it that so many countries send students to learn from some of the finest institutions in the world if they happen to be in the US? One of the great things about the US of A is that such people like yourself have the right speak what is on your mind, no matter how full shit you might actually be.

Lastly, it is interesting you want to keep score on something like this. lol. I will merely respond with "typical".

by the way, for those that did not know, I was responding to the infamous virgil

@ virgil

You might want to check the list of best universities in the world (from a non US source I add).

35 of the top 50 are in the US. Not bad for no education system.

Nah, that would actually be the Hill Country in Texas. Its riverrafting seasong there too. Point being that you can find people and places to like, maybe even a little bit of home, in just about any ole place you find yourself.

Happy Friday Peeps

PS: RP-etc...get it all while you can sir, get it all while you can. oh and i need me some of that kirby lane chocolate cake.

I wrote, "... no education, for all" or to clarify: no affordable higher education for the whole population without getting a scholarship for being good at american football or something.

I don t doubt the US has good universities, it should do, and it does, but they should be available to the non-rich as well, as is found in Europe. This I consider a detriment to America as whole.

65% Honolulu
60% Washington, DC
55% Atlanta
55% Chicago
55% Miami

Chicago 75%, the accuracy of this having been confirmed by my recent trip there. Lovely city.

American Cities That Best Fit You:
70% Honolulu
65% Atlanta
65% San Francisco
65% Seattle
60% Austin

How about that..The city I will be returning too is actually on the list. Though I think I like the idea of Hawaii.

virgil, no matter if you are rich or poor there is always a way to go to university. Not only are there thousands of scolarships (and not just for sports) but theres also government subsidization for the financially challenged (not a loan to be paid back, the government will actually pay for part of the education costs).

I will agree that free education is nice. I just prefer more of a say in what my particular college offers to its students and faculty. But that´s my opinion.

Wow thiere seems to be a heated arguement going on hmnnnnn...well I dont care where are people are from...I have issues with my country or more should I say my present goverment...But is my right to have those issues ...I cannot really complain about other countries because I am not a part of those countries...I guess what i am trying to say is that all countries have pros and there cons...if you have issues with certain countries then go there become a part of the system to "correct" those issues..Oh man I just contributefd to this arguement and i did mean to well anyway...it seems San Francisco is the winner for my test results but I prefer..Portland

Perdido...I agree and I agree

Portland is nicer for me than SF. Less fog, less smog, more things to do. (climbing, skating, running, hiking, skiing) Seattle is also nice, though I think portland might have better weather. (depends on the year)

Eurovol, stop choking the chicken in public! It's just plain rude.

Wow!...sorry about that horrible grammer and sentence structure LOL