Grinner
Apr 25 2005, 6:11 pm
1.17€ per litre...
in the past 3 yr, the cost of filling my little van has risen by 7€ a tank full..
In 2000, british agricultural workers picketed the oil refineries.. the Government promissed to sort out this problem... but it turned out to be a pack of lies..
Now they ave started again...
Good luck to them..
storey
roots
Apr 25 2005, 6:15 pm
Itz the same problem in the US and all over in general.
Start walking
pepper
Apr 25 2005, 6:36 pm
Saw that, fuel prices in Germany must be now almost to the levels in Britain.
"peak oil"
Google
Off you go
Beg Tets
Apr 26 2005, 8:00 am
Pain in the arse for professionals like yourself Grinner who need to get around. IMHO they should surcharge fat-arsed women driving their kids 500 yards to school in a fucking range rover to make up the shortfall, but unfortunately there's practicality problems there.
oli2000
Apr 26 2005, 8:20 am
I typically put V-Power in my car, which costs even quite a bit more. But then I don't really drive much...
jeremy
Apr 26 2005, 8:40 am
@BT: you mean a fat arse tax? How might that work?
Maybe they could pay extra when they get on U Bahns too.
gideon
Apr 26 2005, 8:42 am
QUOTE (Beg Tets @ Apr 26 2005, 9:00 am)
Pain in the arse for professionals like yourself Grinner who need to get around. IMHO they should surcharge fat-arsed women driving their kids 500 yards to school in a fucking range rover to make up the shortfall, but unfortunately there's practicality problems there.
true, i have nieghbours who do that. isn't the statistic that 70% of car usage is under 2 kilometres or something?
kitkat64
Apr 26 2005, 8:42 am
Yep, I got a joke in the mail from a friend in the States about how expensive the gas is over there. I told him to cry me a river - gas here is about 6$ a gallon, so shut up!
jeremy
Apr 26 2005, 8:51 am
I used to fill my tank in Saudi for 3 dollars.
Elfenstar
Apr 26 2005, 8:54 am
yeah, mom said gas is up to $2.09. i remember paying .90 cents a gallon!
btw, am from texas. no oil doesn't flow like water.
i only realized how tough it was when i started filling up my bf's tank. you were easily out €50. if i did that every week? ugh. sorry grinner.
grtho
Apr 26 2005, 8:55 am
I think the stats I saw the other week was that over 50% of the car use within the City of Munich was under 5km. So it's broadly correct: Most people using a car do NOT "need" to.
parnell
Apr 26 2005, 8:59 am
At least in Germany it makes sense with the amount of automotive industry here
I still think petrol is fairly cheap considering what it enables us to do. Considering how long we might want it to last it should probably be 10 times as expensive. Cant wait till the shit runs out actually.
But hey, just fill up in austria. Just over 1 euro in kufstein and just under a euro in wörgl. If you do your shopping there too its worth the gas used to get there. From rosenheim anyway.
grtho
Apr 26 2005, 9:08 am
If you live north of Landshut it's worth going to Czech Rep for fuel. If you are west of Augsburg it is is worth heading south to Austria too.
But the high price of fuel has a purpose: Decrease use use of fuel (Kyoto!) and unnescessary journies, raise income from fuel taxes rather than on income.
Even if you are travelling outside of Munich, compare the true prices of the car and train on DB's website.
roots
Apr 26 2005, 9:10 am
QUOTE (elfenstar @ Apr 26 2005, 9:54 am)
yeah, mom said gas is up to $2.09. i remember paying .90 cents a gallon!
btw, am from texas. no oil doesn't flow like water.
Last month I drove back and forth from Washington DC to Florida. On an average I must have easily paid $2.30 per gallon for unleaded. The cheapest was in North Carolina around $2.10. I heard in places like NYC it is $3.50. For Premium you could add another $0.30-$.50 depending on the area.
Yup, I remember $.75 per gallon in Houston and $.85 in Michigan many many moons ago.
This is why I've sold my car and don't intend to get another. You just don't need a car in Munich. Try to drive somewhere and you spend half the time circling around looking for parking or standing in a stau. Having a car just doesn't make sense here.
markm
Apr 26 2005, 1:43 pm
Would you believe that 70% of what you pay is tax that is supposed to be for the roads and is actually used to keep up the trains!!!
Wee Mun
Apr 26 2005, 1:46 pm
I think if a mother lives 3 km from her kid's school, she is perfectly entitled to drive them in, especially primary school kids.
MadAxeMurderer
Apr 26 2005, 1:52 pm
QUOTE
I still think petrol is fairly cheap considering what it enables us to do. Considering how long we might want it to last it should probably be 10 times as expensive. Cant wait till the shit runs out actually.
I agree completely. The more expensive oil is, the more competitive clean energy will be, and the better off the planet.
Johnny English
Apr 26 2005, 1:53 pm
As the price of beer/curry/petrol/milk etc is something that I always need and yet have very limited control over my brain is cunningly designed to filter out the numbers as irrelevant.
I am therefore generally blissfully unaware of the true price of these items. Works for me! Ignorance is indeed bliss.
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 28 2005, 1:49 pm
Check this out.Shell made a profit of 1.6 million pounds (up 28%) an
hour in the first quarter.
While
BP's profits were up 29% to $5.49 billion in the first quarter.
And you wonder why it costs so much to fill up the car these days?
Where as Shell only get
fined 900,000 pounds for the death of 2 workers on an oil rig due to a breach of health and safety regulations.
900,00 ? What's that to them when they make more profit in a single hour.
boomtown_rat
Apr 28 2005, 1:56 pm
the price charged by oil companies is only a tiny part of the price of petrol though. The majority is tax.
The big profits are mainly due to the steep rises in the price of oil recently
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 28 2005, 1:58 pm
I know that, but they obviuosly wouldn't have such high profits if they charged a bit less for the oil and passed some saving on the driver.
boomtown_rat
Apr 28 2005, 2:04 pm
true
Uncle Jamal
Apr 28 2005, 2:14 pm
QUOTE (grtho @ Apr 26 2005, 10:08 am)
But the high price of fuel has a purpose: Decrease use use of fuel (Kyoto!) and unnescessary journies, raise income from fuel taxes rather than on income.
Not sure that's it's purpose at all. See later post on BP (or was it Shell) profits. And see also how reliant our govts are on the taxes levied on fuels. I am sure they couldn't really give a fuck about Kyoto in all honesty.
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