Since the global financial crisis began a year ago, one out of every nine Germans have lost their jobs, according to a trade union study cited by daily Rheinische Post on Wednesday.
Research by the German Confederation of Trade Unions (DGB) found that some 3.258 million people had been laid off since the crisis started, meaning that one ninth of all people qualifying for unemployment benefits had registered for them in the past 12 months. Most have since found work, however, the study said the number of people made redundant had surged by 18 percent compared to a year ago.
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One ninth of German workforce made redundant during crisis
Utterly crap reporting from the Local, as ever. If one in nine Germans were out of work, then there would be almost 9 million unemployed people, since there are about 80 Million people in Germany. OK, maybe less that 9 million if you deduct all the non-Germans from that total.
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have to agree wizh Owain. We spend many hours talking to Praktikanten, Auszubildilendende usw. which is fine. I work in Corporate IT in a huge company in germany. English has to be 90%. But german should be 1000%. Unfortunately I have the impression that at the moment everybody gets from the Arbeitsamt eine Aus/weiterbildundung and therefore is as far as the statistics are concerned not 'unemployed'. So I don't expect that they sholld be fluent (IT) but surely in some languauge? (english/german/turkish/french)
At the moment these people come to us and all they want is a 'stempel' that they were here and looking for a job. Apparently.
At the moment these people come to us and all they want is a 'stempel' that they were here and looking for a job. Apparently.
This claim is statistically possible because it includes people who then find another job. Especially in the manual labour sector, I can imagine workers being hired and fired on a fairly regular basis; in fact the point the original study (PDF) makes is that the dismissal protection isn't as hot as generally imagined. So it's not referring to one in nine unique Germans, in the same way that there aren't six million unique visitors to Oktoberfest.
So basically it's just The Local's headline that's wrong. Even the Rheinische Post wrote "Jeder Neunte hat seinen Job verloren" (one in nine has lost their job), which is a completely different statement to "one in nine is unemployed".
So basically it's just The Local's headline that's wrong. Even the Rheinische Post wrote "Jeder Neunte hat seinen Job verloren" (one in nine has lost their job), which is a completely different statement to "one in nine is unemployed".
Utterly crap reporting from the Local, as ever. If one in nine Germans were out of work, then there would be almost 9 million unemployed people, since there are about 80 Million people in Germany. OK, maybe less that 9 million if you deduct all the non-Germans from that total.
If you are going to use that 80Million number then there are at least 9million without a job - school children, babies, OAPs, Housewife/husband etc etc.I think that 1 in 9 would mean of the people who had a job before whatever date they picked for the begining of the "crisis" have lost their job, this doesn't mean they are still out of work as at least some of them will have got another job.
So the numbers do work if the reader things about it for a bit. Not something the general public are reknowed for though.
I think those figures are wrong in the detail because 1 in 9 is the total now. It's not those laid off "after" or "because of" the recent crisis. A lot of those 1 in 9 would already have been out.
From what I recall, unemployment here was already quite high before, already up at 10%, which was all but 1 in 9. One thing that shocked me when I moved here (to one of the lower unemployment areas) was the swathes of unemployed people. It was like I recalled from north UK in the early 80s. You can add on the people not registered but not earning anything (living off parents at age 50, freelancers whose work has run out etc).
In that respect the comment here is right that the West German economic mirarcle is not quite what it might appear to those outside.
From what I recall, unemployment here was already quite high before, already up at 10%, which was all but 1 in 9. One thing that shocked me when I moved here (to one of the lower unemployment areas) was the swathes of unemployed people. It was like I recalled from north UK in the early 80s. You can add on the people not registered but not earning anything (living off parents at age 50, freelancers whose work has run out etc).
In that respect the comment here is right that the West German economic mirarcle is not quite what it might appear to those outside.
If you are going to use that 80Million number then there are at least 9million without a job - school children, babies, OAPs, Housewife/husband etc etc.
I think that 1 in 9 would mean of the people who had a job before whatever date they picked for the begining of the "crisis" have lost their job, this doesn't mean they are still out of work as at least some of them will have got another job.
So the numbers do work if the reader things about it for a bit. Not something the general public are reknowed for though.
Nope, that is not what the headline says: "one in ten Germans out of work after crisis". It doesn't say "one in ten Germans, who had a job before the crisis, are now out of work". If the latter is what is meant, then the article, especially the headline, is poorly written.
I think that 1 in 9 would mean of the people who had a job before whatever date they picked for the begining of the "crisis" have lost their job, this doesn't mean they are still out of work as at least some of them will have got another job.
So the numbers do work if the reader things about it for a bit. Not something the general public are reknowed for though.
Nope, that is not what the headline says: "one in ten Germans out of work after crisis". It doesn't say "one in ten Germans, who had a job before the crisis, are now out of work". If the latter is what is meant, then the article, especially the headline, is poorly written.
Oh no doubt that the translation is up to the normal standards but it does saySince the financial crisis began one in nine Germans have lost their jobs
So they must have had a job in the first place.
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