The E111 form - European Health Care

Just got a new little E111 "Auslandskrankenschein" card from the AOK as I travel in Europe a fair bit. Reading the leaflet it says that the treaties that govern mutual acceptance of social health care with other countries are:

"Allerdings grundsätzlich nur fü Deutsche Staatsangehörige"

WTF !?

If they take my money surely they cannot discriminate on terms of citizenship?
Surely this is at LEAST illegal within the EU ?

Any comment or expereinces before I get really snotty with the bastards?

I used to have an E111, which then changed to E128 (new form).. maybe you have to apply for it from the British government (if you're a Brit), as maybe the AOK only 'erstells' this form for Germans, being a German authority?

'Allerdings grundsätzlich ' isn't a deffo though

Just for your info when I applied for a new E106, which I give to AOK, who give me a insurance card (as I'm still paying national insurance), the UK government also sent me a E111.

This then covers me for travel to other european countries. AOK don't provide this as I still pay NI.
Anyway they won't be valid after the end of this year as they are been replaced by 'european insurance cards'. Don't ask me what they're about,

Ok I did a search and found useful info on an irish site
http://www.oasis.gov.ie/moving_country/mov...broad/e111.html

"Like the old E111, the European Health Insurance Card only entitles you to the state-funded health care scheme in the country in which you are staying."

"You can only apply for an European Health Insurance Card from the Irish authorities if you are currently resident here. (If you live in another EU/EEA country, contact the health authorities in the country where you are now living to apply). " - so the German authorities are the right place.

"Each European Health Insurance Card will be valid throughout the EU/EEA for up to 2 years."

AOK Website - http://www.aok.de/bra/rd/125948.htm

Unfortunately says nowt about foreigners living in Germany, I'll keep looking, but calling them may be the best bet.

"Krankenversicherung im Ausland
Bis Ende 2004 können Versicherte noch mit dem bisherigen Auslandskrankenschein E111 verreisen, der noch bis zum 30.05.2004 ausgestellt wird. Ab dann gilt die Europäische Krankenversicherungskarte. "
http://www.aok.de/index.php?such1=auslands...=false&bl_neu=4

Here's their phone number and e-mail address :

http://www.aok.de/index.php?bl_neu=4

You can apply for the new card online with AOK and I got the card 48 hours later.
Good service!

But they seem to like to issue tha cards for short validity periods, I managed to get one now valid until end / October. Also, you have to specify the country you want it for and if that is a country where you don't need it (eg Britain) they don't send you one even if you make trips to countries where you DO need it (eg Czech Republic)

Looks like I'm gonna e mail them.

We brought an E111 form with us from the UK and my wife went over to the A-OK office today to obtain a 'abrechnungsschein' form. This apparently is required to make use of the E111 form should we need to see a doctor. She was told by the German lady, who apparently was quite insistant, that she didn't need an 'abrechnungsschein' form.

Looking at the information provided with the E111, which can be seen from

http://www.dh.gov.uk/PolicyAndGuidance/Hea...5684&chk=pIavoF

It clearly says we need this form. Has anyone managed to get one of these or had any experience using an E111 form to obtain treatement here under the receprical health agreement with the UK?

Can anyone recommend any English speaking doctors in the Pasing/Liam/Obermenzing area who provide treatment under this scheme. Thanks.

Kind Regards,
Shane Cook.

the only thing that comes to mind for me, is that the UK is joining with much of Europe in this singular health card, like the same way most of us have european driving licences now.

i thought the date for this was sometime in mid 2005. Perhaps they are just saying you should hold off till then?

I gotta see a GP in town. Thanks to so many previous posts I've got plenty of choice of docs. I see that there's gonna be a charge, and I wonder I showing the E111 form that I painstakingly brought with me from the UK will be of any use in getting free healthcare?

You'll still need to pay a 10 yo yo admin fee per quarter. Standard across the board charge.

http://www.toytowngermany.com/search/?q=e111

I had to go to the dr while in Ireland a month ago. I was amazed at how well it all worked as I had just got German National Insurance (TK) and it was effective Sept 1st. I went to a clinic in Dublin, told them I needed to see a dr but didnt have an ins card yet as it just started that day - they just ask for my ins number (which I got quite easily with 1 phone call) and they ask nothing else. Was quite easy and I paid nothing - was so very nice. Much better than private insurance nightmares I've had the past 5 yrs