Former British soldier living in Hannover
The Local
22.Oct.2009 07:09 hrs
A transsexual has won a lawsuit against her German health insurance, which will now have to pay for the former British soldier's re-constructive breast surgery, news magazine Der Spiegel reported late on Wednesday.
Sarah Jane Smith, 51, has been living as a woman since she began the sex change process three years ago in Hannover. But the hormones prescribed by her doctor made her breasts grow from the side of her chest, the magazine reported.
She suffered so greatly from forcing her breasts into corsets and bras that Smith applied to have a corrective operation with the DAK health insurer, with which she has been insured since 1998.
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Monty Clift
22.Oct.2009 13:01 hrs
That's what happens when you tamper with mother nature.And wouldn't it have made more sense to stop taking the female hormones so that you would return to your normal body type? These cases all sound more like some psychiatric disorder than an error of developement. And why would he wait until 50 when he only has 20 or so years left to live on average anyway to begin all this "sex change" nonsense? Total insanity.
habitual_line_stepper
22.Oct.2009 13:07 hrs
This is unacceptable. I am guessing that the hormones this guy took to become more womanly were paid for by insurance? Nothing that is not a medical necessity should be paid for by insurance. Ever. Those hormones shouldn't have been - and maybe they weren't. But no matter what, this person made a conscious decision to have an elective alteration to their body and that should come out of their own pocket and any problems that result should come out of their own pocket, too. Guess who ends up footing the bill for this. Premiums are high and probably will be no matter what, but stuff like this makes them higher.
Buffy
22.Oct.2009 13:09 hrs
This is unacceptable. I am guessing that the hormones this guy took to become more womanly were paid for by insurance? Nothing that is not a medical necessity should be paid for by insurance. Ever.
Well, I haven't formulated my whole opinion on this story yet but this statement kind of hit a nerve because the health insurance doesn't even pay the creams my daughter so desperately needs to control her unsightly eczema.
habitual_line_stepper
22.Oct.2009 13:53 hrs
There is a big difference between a kid with eczema and a 50 something year old man that decides he wants to take hormones because he feels like a woman and sues the insurance company later because it all went wrong. There are plans that cover the cost of eczema medication. It will cost more because it is a pre-existing condition. And it will cost more because the companies cover the losses they take on things like this story by passing the costs on to the rest of us.
LeonG
22.Oct.2009 14:11 hrs
For what I know about Gender Identity Disorder, there is no way to fix the brain to make the person want to be man if she wants to be a woman. In the past, they've tried psychotherapy, hypnosis, praying and I don't know what else. Some parents have beaten their kids for being like this and it also didn't help.
When people say that these people should have psychotherapy rather than hormones and surgeries, guess what, if they are getting the hormones and surgeries in the first place, they would have already had the psychotherapy and it didn't work.
As for it being a medical necessity or not, many of those people are very depressed and dysfunctional so choosing not to fix them means they'll cost you instead with their depression while if they get their hormones and surgeries, most of them seem to cope pretty well.
As for figuring this out at age 50, that's maybe a bit late in the day but don't forget that this person would have grown up in a time when it was not ok for boys to dress up like girls and probably tried to hide it and managed really well hiding it for some decades. Had society been more tolerant then, she might have come out much earlier.
IrishEyesAreBlue
22.Oct.2009 14:43 hrs
It still looks like a man! Even with tons of make-up - and size 60 KKKK boobs - it still looks like a man - because it IS a man! This poor soul needs counseling -- this is a mental disorder. Period! End of story! Over and out!
muFFin09
22.Oct.2009 15:44 hrs
I think people should live how they wish too whether man or woman, no-one has the right to judge anyone else, if a man is happy in a woman's body then so be it 'that's life' and life is for living, I am a straight frau open to everything life is far too short to complain about what others make so if it doesn't disturb your life then you need to shut the hell up until you know what it's like to change gender it's certainly not taken lightly, every damn human being has a skeleton in their cuboard so think before you shout your mouth off about others gay or otherwise, I am a jock and open for everything....
D R Jones
22.Oct.2009 16:26 hrs
muFFin09, I don't care if you're gay, straight or transgendered. It disturbs my life because those premimums I pay support this type of surgery. It also keeps taxes rising to support these services. That money is better spent on a child that has problems that aren't elective. Why should I pay because you're ugly and want plastic surgery so you can get laid more often? You have the right to be and do anything you want, as long as it doesn't affect my wallet.
Binaural
22.Oct.2009 16:46 hrs
It still looks like a man! Even with tons of make-up - and size 60 KKKK boobs - it still looks like a man - because it IS a man! This poor soul needs counseling -- this is a mental disorder. Period! End of story! Over and out!
Man, the standard of Toytown is really going down with the recent influx from the Local.
delvek
22.Oct.2009 18:36 hrs
"That's what happens when you tamper with mother nature."
true statement.
"This poor soul needs counseling -- this is a mental disorder."
agreed.
habitual_line_stepper
24.Oct.2009 12:39 hrs
I'm sure there are plenty of real women who develop psychological issues because they have small breasts. That doesn't mean that insurance should pay for breast implants. If this person was psychologically traumatized (the story doesn't say that, but clearly there are those who will assume this to be true) by feeling like a woman in a man's body, I am sorry for them. But a lot of people suffer from things they can't change about themselves without surgery, etc. That does not mean that insurance should pay for it. Insurance was originally intended to pay for major losses, not for every little thing the way we expect it to now. And for the record, I think insurance companies are evil as far as most of their practices go. The person in this story has every right to live their life as a man or woman, but they do not have the right to expect insurance to pay for what they need to make them feel better. Nor should insurance pay to clean up the mess they created themselves.
oopster
25.Oct.2009 08:11 hrs
The big issue here seems to be "I don't want my insurance premiums paying for this 'man' to become a woman, he chose this", well guess what, SHE didn't choose this. This is a medical condition where the brain and the body don't match, and the only known way to correct the situation at this point in time is surgery to bring the body in line with the brain.
If you want to ban all medical procedures based on what people choose to do in order to lower your insurance premiums then you have to do it for everyone, that means anyone with cancer who smoked, sorry, you've no longer covered, you CHOSE to smoke. Anyone with kidney problems who drinks alocohol, sorry, you're no longer covered as you CHOSE to drink. Anyone getting pregnant who CHOSE to get pregnant, sorry, but you CHOSE to get pregnant.
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