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Speedport W 500V - can it support 2 computers - Germany

To the internet, 1 over LAN, 1 over WLAN?

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davo
I'm staying at a friends for my last week in Munich and he has DSL through a Speedport W 500V, over the LAN connection. I would very much like to get the Speedport to also support my connection to the internet via WLAN. Is this possible?

We don't have any additional hardware such as switches, hubs, or routers, but were wondering if it is possible to enable the WLAN so that my laptop can get internet access while simultaneously still supporting internet access for the wired LAN to his laptop?

Anyone done this???
Many thanks for help!
YorkshireLad6
The W500V has an internal router/switch but only one wired LAN port. You can, however connect up to (theoretically) 255 network devices by WLAN, all with simultaneous access to the common internet connection. If you want to connect wired devices then you simply need to add a hub (switch) - cost less than €20 for a 4-port model.
lamontia
Not done it, so cannot be certain.

But the picture on page 2 of this document certainly leads me to believe it is possible.

and by going through the rest of the document you should be able to work it out even if you can't get all the words translated.

Good luck

PS. If you need a hub for a week then PM me as I have one I'm not using
davo
The W500V has an internal router/switch but only one wired LAN port. You can, however connect up to (theoretically) 255 network devices by WLAN, all with simultaneous access to the common internet connection. If you want to connect wired devices then you simply need to add a hub (switch) - cost less than €20 for a 4-port model.
That's cool, but unfortunately my friend can only use the LAN port from his laptop, otherwise WLAN for both would be perfect. Are you saying what we want to do isn't technically possible with this device YSL6?

From a picture in the PDF which lamontia so graciously included below, it does imply the possibility.

Not done it, so cannot be certain.

But the picture on page 2 of this document certainly leads me to believe it is possible.

and by going through the rest of the document you should be able to work it out even if you can't get all the words translated.

Good luck

PS. If you need a hub for a week then PM me as I have one I'm not using
That picture does look promising on the page numbered 2 within the PDF (page 10 of the actual document on my PDF viewer). We'll try to set it up using my friend's german reading comprehension skills, since mine suck, but if we can't do it, maybe I'll take you up on the hub offer. Thanks a lot for that!
YorkshireLad6
Sorry - maybe I was not clear. You can directly connect one PC over the LAN port and up to 254 PCs with WLAN in addition, and at the same time.
Does that help? If you want to connect more wired PCs then you need that hub.
davo
Yeah, that helps. So you're saying we CAN have internet access for both one direct LAN connection and one (or more) WLAN connections which is great. Now we just have to figure out exactly how to configure it because our previous attempt failed.

Any tips on the specific settings required for this? Thanks again.
lamontia
I have sent you a PM. Ian
davo
Thx Ian. Gonna try to set it up probably tomorrow...
YorkshireLad6
I have sent you a PM. Ian
Why?
lamontia
Because I offered to help (as I know a bit about this stuff and can understand the manual) and didn't really want to post my phone number on the thread.

The PM was in case Davo logged on anonymously (or his friend logged on) and only read the thread not the PM.
YorkshireLad6
Which unfortunately defeats the object of a forum where people can come in the future to find answers to problems such as this....
lamontia
Since you request an answer, and I am terminally bored in the office today trying to read a 2" thick book about Penetration Testing, here goes

Fundamentally in answer to the question, yes, you can have both WLAN and fixed.

You have to log on to the router (done through a standard browser), go to the Wireless LAN section, configure the WLAN SSID to something memorable (shouldn't be left as default), and then preferably set it to "hidden".

Then go to the security tab on the router and select your chosen level of security.

At the moment WPA with a security key of 21 bits is considered "unbreakable" (within a reasonable length of time).

Avoid WEP, to a hacker it is virtually non existant as a security protocol.

Once all this is setup go on to the laptop set up the Wireless LAN settings to match the ones on the router and "Hey Presto" you're connected.

Of course, if the router was delivered by one of the Broadband suppliers here in German, one or all of the above may be redundant, impossible, or possibly just wrong.

But this is all explained in the "Betriebsanleitung" which is supplied with the router.

So, if anyone would like help with this topic in the future please either, post on the Forum providing extremely specific details of your problem or, buy me a beer, and I'll see what I can do over the phone.

davo
Since you request an answer, and I am terminally bored in the office today trying to read a 2" thick book about Penetration Testing, here goes

Fundamentally in answer to the question, yes, you can have both WLAN and fixed.

You have to log on to the router (done through a standard browser), go to the Wireless LAN section, configure the WLAN SSID to something memorable (shouldn't be left as default), and then preferably set it to "hidden".

Then go to the security tab on the router and select your chosen level of security.

At the moment WPA with a security key of 21 bits is considered "unbreakable" (within a reasonable length of time).

Avoid WEP, to a hacker it is virtually non existant as a security protocol.

Once all this is setup go on to the laptop set up the Wireless LAN settings to match the ones on the router and "Hey Presto" you're connected.

Of course, if the router was delivered by one of the Broadband suppliers here in German, one or all of the above may be redundant, impossible, or possibly just wrong.

But this is all explained in the "Betriebsanleitung" which is supplied with the router.

So, if anyone would like help with this topic in the future please either, post on the Forum providing extremely specific details of your problem or, buy me a beer, and I'll see what I can do over the phone.


So... we set the SSID on the router and can see that on the Windows XP laptop. We set the security protocol to WPA2 with pre-shared key and matched this setup for the wireless config on the laptop and of course entered the same key. The laptop sees the SSID/router, but tries to connect for a minute or two and eventually one of two things happen. Either it fails and the laptop has no IP address and the media state is listed as disconnected (using ipconfig /all) or the laptop gets one of those autoconfiguration IPs of this variety (Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.4.22). That's useless and doesn't connect me to the router. UGH.

It seems like something other than the security setup is not right because we tried WPA, WEP and open and got the same results trying all three. I also completely disabled the XP laptop firewall (temporarily) and again, no change.

Any ideas why this isn't working??? Incidentally, I've used the laptop at a couple of coffee shops which offer WLAN access recently and it always worked like a charm. No special configs were needed.

I'm starting to wonder if the problem is with the Speedport!?!?
postmann
Good evening. If I am not mistaken, the speedport simply bridges the WiFi port to the LAN side, which (usually) runs on IP address 192.168.2.1, so the problem seems to lie with your notebook's configuration. Try the IP address 192.168.2.15 or something like that, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and gateway 192.168.2.1 (and same IP address for the DNS server), and tell us what happens. The speedport has some DHCP server built in, however it may be deactivated. Or try to boot the laptop computer next to the speedport, so it may obtain an IP address from that device, if set up correctly.
I assume you have entered the long WPA encryption key in a correct way.
maekelborger
Is there a MAC filter running on the router? If so then only computers with their MAC address (more or less a unique ID for the network/WLAN adapter - although it's a little more complicated than that) registered will be able to connect.

Under Sicherheit/MAC-Filtering would be the place to look: Here is a picture of what the config screen looks like - Betriebszustand must be set to "Aus" or the MAC address of the laptop must appear in the list (you can check the laptop's MAC address in Windows by going start|run (or [windows button] + [r], type "cmd", hit enter and then enter "ipconfig /all" and this is one of the things listed).
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