Champions league football - Chelsea v Liverpool

I know there are a few TT'ers out there that are Liverpool fans (like me), are there many Chelsea fans?

Liverpool / Chelsea / or what ever fan, anyone interested in going to GM's to watch the champions league match on Wed. 27th April?

K.O is at 20:45 but i think we should met up a bit before (TBD)

If there is enough interest we should reserve a table!

I will be there !

Does anyone know if it is being shown on one of the normal German channels or have they lost interest now that Bayern have been knocked out?

it's showing live on Sat1

Great, thanks.

Oh good grief. Is it next week? I don't think the nerves will take it... I expect I will be there though.

I'll be along after 5-a-side. About 8.20 or so.

EtH - Are you going to try and book a table?

Was waiting to see how many are coming, just the 4 so far so not sure if its worth it

If a bunch of us come after the 5-a-side, could be a few more than that. GM's tends to get a little crowded. Want to avoid any beer spillage this time!!

You won't be able to book a table for Wednesday. They don't let you book for major football events. It will be first come, first served I'm afraid.

We got there about 7.30 for the last game and it was filling up pretty quickly then.

Oh... this could be a long night ! Guess I will get there around 7:30 then.

I will definitely be there for around 7-7.30.

Although after the dismal display against Palace on Saturday I am not sure that the reds even deserve my support. Useless bastards

Thanks Topsy!

C'mon the Scouse!!!

Just to add a big more spice. FA have asked if Liverpool win to give an extra place to Liverpool. Now the question is IF (god that's a big IF) Liverpool do win, and UEFA say no, will the FA give Everton's fourth place finish to Liverpool for winning the competition !

COME ON YOU REDS !

Liverpool or Everton for the 4th Champions League Spot

If Liverpool win this years competition then they should get the spot ahead of Everton. Having said that though, personally I would kick Man U in to the UEFA Cup and allow Everton in to the Chumps League.

I would just kick ManU out. FULL STOP.

Bloody ManU

I'm in! Be there early and meet ya there Crawlie...

The extra sppot would be for everton, as the defending champs are automatically in.

@ Wee_Man - Err ? no, only the first 4 teams in the League qualify for Chumps League, if a team wins the Chumps League and finishes outside of their local league qualifing, then it is a decision of the local FA to request this at the expense of the final placed qualifying team. Winners DO NOT get automatically entered !

So in this case Everton. This happened a few years ago, when Real won, but finished 5th, so the Spanish FA took the place away from Villarreal and entered them into the UEFA Cup and gave the spot to Real.

UEFA have now confirmed they will not give an extra spot to Liverpool if they do win it, so now Liverpool MUST win, then the FA have to make the decision what to do !

Sorry, but you are wrong, right now if liverpool win the league then everton would miss out

The position has changed as far as i am aware, the FA has to decide whether to let the holders or the 4th placed team, this was announced by eufa this morning.

There is a precedent, as it has happened once before:

Spain were faced with the same dilemma five years ago and opted to allow European Cup holders Real Madrid - who finished fifth in the Primera Liga - to defend their title and entered fourth-placed Real Zaragoza in the Uefa Cup.

Hmm... well you are right now, it is a decision of the FA, but this has always been that the winners DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY qualify.

Boy I have been checking this regularly, as Liverpool get closer to the Chumps League final, and looking further and further away from getting 4th !

Cannot find the BBC page I was looking at, that stated this !

We're all hopeful !

Wee Mun - Pepper is right in what he is saying. The winners of the champions league do not qualify for the next seasons competition. To qualify a team needs to finish in their leagues qualifying spots. As it stands Liverpool wont qualify in 5th. So its up to the FA to decide whether to give it to Liverpool or let Everton have it.

I think this might be the link.

3L read my above posts.

If the FA follow the precedent set by the spanish FA, then Liverpool would get the spot.

Mind you, I really don't think it is going to be an issue, as even though they will beat Chelski, I cannot see them beating Milano

God, that must be the first time 3Lions has agreed with me on a footballing matter !

Dunno, if they get past Chelski. Liverpools style of play has been perfect for Europe this year, I think they could cope with Milano.

Pepper - Thats the first time you've been right about something on Football!!

Academic - Liverpool are gonna get murdered. And then AC will win the whole thing.

I think Porto and Monaco proved last year that anything can happen. Let's just wait and see what happens. Everybody is already saying that Chelsea will play Milan but then everybody also said that Liverpool would not get past the group stages and that Juventus would stuff them.

I don't care. Just kick out ManU. Bloody ManU. rant rant rant

He's fat
He's scouse
He'll rob yer fooking house
Wayne Rooneeeeee
Wayne Rooneeeeeeee

dont write off psv.
dutch total football.
best coach in world, hiddink - alongside mourinho

ac v psv over 2 legs will be tighter than most think.
ac have had an easy run to semis (only inter and man ure) so this is their first real test

Inter have only lost 4 times at the san siro in the last year and a half, and the only team to beat them is AC. I think that was a test, as were manure.

I thought PSV would do Lyon, but cannot see them getting past AC

Final - PSV v Liverpool (Istanbul)

and drawn about 30 games and when in danger of losing other games just riot, burn seats and get game abandoned.

norwich would have given ac a better game than man ure in last 16.

its about time ferguson hung up his whisky decanter..he's losing it..you cant win fuck all without a decent goalie and hard spine to the side. rio's shite in the air.
getting rid of jap stam was a major faux pas from the gob from govan.

I included the game where they rioted as a loss

My Italian colleague here in the office, now says instead of a team drawing, he just says they did an Inter ! Although he is a Juve fan, and was a little humbled that Inter recently beat Juve, oh.. and was not best pleased with me after the Liverpool game !

French Ref for 1st Leg

As it stands - UEFA have 'expressed the opinion' that they would prefer League standing to count over qualification from winning the previous years competition, but the final decision rests with the FA. The FA had asked for another place but this was dismissed out of hand (kind of understandable as it would mean robbing some other countries qualification and repercussions from that are not worth bothering their haaars about)

This is all dependent upon Liverpool beating Chelsea over two legs - which they haven't managed to do even once on three outtings this season.

And on top of that, it's depent on Everton qualifying - although 1 win and a draw would do and seems attainable - 2 wins from 4 would guarantee this position.

Why not let the 2 teams (Everton and Liverpool) play for the last spot if it came down to it? Seems fairest to me...

I reckon its fairest to let Everton go into it. Anything different would smack of changing the rules half way through really.

If Liverpool win the Chumps league, then fair enough, they should go in the comp, if they dont, then Everton should get it.

I dont see the point in not allowing the previous years champions in the competition. Supid rule.

Unless ManU wins it and then I would ban them anyway for being ManU

I'm not sure they should allow the previous years' winners in. Surely it should be based purely on the qualification criteria (i.e. from the national leagues). After all, Olympic champions aren't automatically entered the next time. In fact World Cup winners aren't either these days. Why not allow the previous years runners up in too - after all they did pretty well to get to the final

what's the gripe with Manu?

Gripe? No gripe. I think they are a great team, with a fantastic manager who just gets on with the job and never moans about anything.

Why should I have a problem with ManU?

IT is this bloody German Keyboard I think. I typed "Bayern Munich" but something must have gotten mixed up.

They're all Cnuts!!

Previous years winners should always qualify, its an honourable tradition that should be kept.

If you put it like that, why should a host nation qualify? Just cos the stadiums of that country are being used, doesnt give an automatic right to play.

Being the current holder IMHO does.

Put like a Scholar Mr Lions

aren't we talking Champions League here? I agree with you about the champions qualifying bit but not when it is at the expense of a 'normal' team. There should be an extra space for winners irrespective of country