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Diabetes treatment in Munich

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Katrina
Hiya
are any of you diabetic?
Reason why I am asking is because I have insulin resistance which can be a precursor to full Diabetes 2. I had my HC1A (3-month insulin level blood test) checked again yesterday during my 3 year company TÜV/medical and know that my insulin values are all over the shop (taps the woman with a Christmas Cake sitting on her desk) so need to get a grip and sort things out.
I used to go 2 years ago to Dr Michael Müller in Theatrinerstr. who is a lovely man and everything but wondered if anyone else has used someone else, particularly if someone has details about a dietician/nutritionist experienced with diabetes.
I know that it is a long shot but thought that I would ask anyway.
Cheers
Katrina
dr warner
i'm a type 1 diabetic and have been so since i was 7. it's a bitch. 3 injections per day every day until they find a cure. no beer. bitch.

so did anything come out of this thread, find any doctors?

katrina, you're a little young for type 2?
interplanetjanet
warner, have you seen these monitors nowadays that you wear on your hip, and they monitor your blood sugar levels and distribute insulin through your skin automatically? I'm not exactly sure how much of your own monitoring is required, but my brother has this thing and is very happy with it. Both my brother and father are type 1 diabetics.
acockreland2balls
@ Katrina ..I am in a similar boat to you. I have rather high blood sugar and go every 2 years to a Diabetes Clinic on Leopoldstrasse (near Giselastrasse/Asado Steakhouse) to get tested to see if I have developed Type II. Will need to dig out the address this weekend from the bills for you. Found them to be very very good, friendly, gave tonnes of advice on diet/lifestyle, etc.
grtho
Dr Warner

When I was in Slovakia the other week I saw a beer for sale in the diabetic section of a supermarket. Aren't there some specially brewed beers you can drink or is your diabete that bad?
Lupo
QUOTE (dr warner @ Apr 15 2005, 2:18 pm)
i'm a type 1 diabetic and have been so since i was 7. it's a bitch. 3 injections per day every day until they find a cure. no beer. bitch.
*

Have you ever tried the Diät bier? It´s designed with diabetics in mind. Only has about 4-5 g of carbohydrates per half liter (as opposed to a normal beer with around 15g per half liter) and actually tastes ok.
jml
Katrina...will get you the contact info this weekend, know a really good guy. Am not diabetic but have to watch out for it---fell into the sugary end of the gene pool if you will.
dr warner
wow, thanks for all that.

found diät prosecco in edeka but didn't buy it, what's up with this diät beer? does it still get you blotto?

IPJ, haven't heard of that machine you were talking about, does it warn you before it injects or do you suddenly feel a little prick? serious comment, no penis jokes please. at the moment i have to ship my insulin round in a little cooler bag, can be a bitch at times.

i think after work i shall have to shop for this diät beer, can i get it in a supermarket? do most pubs serve it? would i look like a prick for asking for it?

in the eternal words of Homer J "mmmmmmmmmm, beer"
kathie
Presume Katrina's found someone by now... the thread's from 2003.
don_riina
QUOTE
i'm a type 1 diabetic and have been so since i was 7. it's a bitch. 3 injections per day every day until they find a cure

Well, they are certainly getting closer apparently.
interplanetjanet
QUOTE
IPJ, haven't heard of that machine you were talking about, does it warn you before it injects or do you suddenly feel a little prick? serious comment, no penis jokes please. at the moment i have to ship my insulin round in a little cooler bag, can be a bitch at times.

I'll have to ask my brother. I have a vague recollection of it being some type of thing that stays attached with several tiny needles so fine that you don't feel them, but I could be talking out my ass. I'll send him off an email and let you know.
dragon
My missus is type 1 diabetic and has been for 25 years. She drinks plenty of beer!! (her HBA1 is 6.2 ie. well controlled) She also stores her insulin in a fridge, but the manufacturers websites say that it is okay at room temperature for upto 3 months, so no cold bags required.

The biggest problem we faced was that noone would insure her as it is a known medical condition. So at the moment if she falls over and breaks her leg cause shes hypoglycemic (sp?) then we have to foot the bill.

If someone does have an address for a clinic/doctor I'd also be very grateful, as her NHS doctors in britain are crap.

Thanks
BadDoggie
Hey, Doc,

They do perform pancreas transplants, but the resulting pile of immunosuppressants you need to take afterwards make it a poor choice unless you're also getting some other organ.

Twelve years ago my diabetic roommate was waiting for a kidney and pancreas and not only had to shoot 70/30 twice a day, she had to self-dialyse as well. She got a call early one evening and the Johanniter were at the flat inside 30 minutes to take her to the hospital. They'd found a match after more than two years.

The next day I got home from work and she was there in the kitchen, silent. I asked what was wrong and she quietly said she still showed traces of peritonitis which were a result of the dialysis osmosis bag inside her having got infected a couple months before. She was rejected for that. I hugged her and she bawled for about 20 minutes. We got along a lot better after that day.

The upshot is that another donor was found about a year later. She got the kidney and pancreas and the match was so close she now takes almost no drugs, though she does get sick easily and has to avoid sick people like the plague. She does her best to avoid public transport. She hasn't seen insulin since 1995.

There are also implantable insulin pumps like this, but you still occasionally have to jab to refill it.

Cheers,
woof.
interplanetjanet
BadDoggie beat me to it literally by a few minutes. That's the link I was about to provide that my brother gave me. He uses one of those pumps, apparently they require a jab once every three days or so, and he's quite happy with it.
dr warner
hey, ta for all that, proves that tt isn't all about alcohol and biting and that people do really care.

cheers
acockreland2balls
the diabetes clinic i go to which i recommend on Leopoldstrasse is:

Diabetes-muc

not sure if they speak english or not. i saw Dr Zschau and got top advice on diet, lifestyle, etc when you have type 2.
kati
The university hospital of the LMU has a Diabetes Ambulanz (Ziemsenstr). They are very friendly and professional. Also they might have a list of other good adresses.
Katrina
That LMU clinic and the one in Neu-Perlach use the excellent and very nice doctor Dr. med. Michael Müller, who is a great doctor but has terrible opening hours due to his hospital work (the opening hours are the only reason I moved to the Rindermarkt clinic). He does speak English but his staff may not do so fluently.
If you have more flexible times than I do, his office is at Theatinerstr. 32, 80333 München 089/24217666.
smiley
hi there,

my mom has visited me and she needs a new pair of diabetic footwear. do any of you know any shop in Munich where she can try and buy a shoe that fits her well. there are lot of online shops but we want to buy something that she can try on and choose the one that makes her feel comfortable wearing. i searched in google "diabetiker shuhladen muenchen" and came accross a shop, and i called them. the footwear costs between 150 to 300 euros!!! are there diabetic footwear in germany that are less expensive?

another question. she had also brought her accu-check active (Roche) home appliance that she uses regularly to check her sugar levels. i had been with her and knew that she was in a very perfect diet (hardly two spoons of cooked rice and rest of the plate full of salad and fruits (no fruit or veg that would increase her sugar) besides taking her usual medicines. and when we checked her blood glucose one night, it was 401mg/ml!!! and i knew this was impossible. she had proper diet. i doubted the machine, so we checked again 2 more times immediately. and the values were 356 and 383!!! ohmy.gif

i called Roche and they sent another appliance to use - accu-check aviva. and now we are checking in two different machines. the variation is between 15 to 50mg/ml for the two machines at different times. is this normal? then whenever the variation is 50, then how can one rely on such measurements?

please share your experience with this and also please let me know what you would suggest. huh.gif

thanks a ton
regards
eversmiling...
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