How to deal with a psycho neighbour - Germany

He is making our lives hell

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RAMBO
I need a bit of help as my wife is close to a nervous break down she just cry's a lot won't eat correctly and just feels like puking most of time. I'll try and keep it short and some up the stuff but its been going on for over 3 years. We bought a brand new middle house(row of 7) this wasn't easy for us as we both had average jobs and took over 5 years to save a decent deposit. And meant delaying having kids until we got the loan sorted out. The house is set over 4 floors celler to dach. In this time we have endured the following
6 months of stone and mud throwing onto our driveway.
ringing our door bell early in the morning and running away to wake us up.
ringing our doorbell at 6.45am to wake me up as I work nights and go to bed at 4am I get up at 8am to take my son to kindergarten as my wife works full time during the day. If we turn the bell off he will just bang on the door.(this is to always inform us he heard a bang the day or night before).
A month of throwing glass, fag ends and chewing gum on my drive way.
A video camera pointing at our entrance to watch our comings and goings.
His house is set a meter behind us and the bathrooms overhangs the house to create a sort of entrance of the front door this gives his house a kind of safety zone so that he's able to throw stuff without anyone seeing.

We went to a lawyer ref the stones mud etc(after my wife saw him up until then we had no idea where they were coming from) who sent a letter, he just replied saying it was the wind.
6 months ago he put a dent in our door while banging so we organised a meeting of all houses in our row where it was agreed that he would no longer come on our property and if there was problem his wife would coming after my wife came home from work. All he then did was wait 3 months so we couldn't sue for dent in door then he started up again. And in the mean time complaining to neighbour where we held the meeting for example we arrived home at 11pm one day after being stuck 4 hours in a traffic jam that we were to loud when we got home. He also had some sort of log book detailing every bang he's ever heard. We already know he's lying due to the fact last year we were in turkey for 10days and he said that only my wife and son went and that I stayed here in order to make bangs.

It came to a head a month ago when he decided to try ringing our bell at 3am in morning after I got back from work, my sons bedroom is directly above where I park, our front door is 2 meters from our stairs both my son and wife leave their doors open in case their is a problem with my son, so I am always quiet. Anyway I answer the door he ends up falling over on his way back to his garden and gets up and try's attacking me I move out of the way as he's jumping towards me he misses and lands on his face, I put my hand on his back(10 second max) to prevent him getting up doing anything else I tell him he has no chance, then go back in the house and my wife calls the police. Then he starts banging my door down for 10 mins before going home. The police come say they don't get involved in this stuff we explain or the shit what he's done to us in the last 3 years. The neighbours got blood on his face and ask me if I pushed him my german sucks by the way so I didn't really know what they were saying I said yes (as I pushed him away from the bell) to stop him waking up my wife and son. The police go then he starts ringing my bell again we call the police they say turn the bell off then he starts banging on the door again. The police come back they can tell my neighbour is a nutter. He's oriental by the way married with one child but they sleep separately and do not associate with anybody just stay in the house the whole time no friends etc at all. All the stuff is done when his wife is not there taking the kid to school or when she works. She had no idea any of this is going on hard to believe I know.
Anyway we already told the police this so they tell him to get his wife he refuses as she has to sleep there no way she did nt hear any of stuff. So they take him a way to the police station then at 7.30am when he gets back he rings my bell some more and runs off. Prior to this night, every morning around 7am he was going into his garden hiding being the fence and making large bangs in order to wake me up this happened for about a month. He was also waking up other neighbour a couple people saw him from the houses behind us but couldn't see him making the bang just that he comes out goes behind the fence bang happens then he goes back inside. They don't want to make a statement as they did nt see how he made the bangs. So now I have to go the police station next month as I'm accused of breaking his nose our insurance does not cover this, so do I waste more money on this nutter by using a lawyer,so far we the victims have had to pay out for stuff yet none of this has costs him a penny and I bet he's laughing his arse off at us.
We have tried everything my wife talking to him etc me warning him to piss off but nothing works he just acts all innocence then shit starts up a week or 2 later. MY wife wants to move but that means dropping at least 30k on this house then costs in buying a new one another 20k at least.
And its really pissing me off I work my arse off on a tax card 5 this kind of money is 5 years wages for me for which we've done nothing wrong.
We've never had a party here we don't drink etc don't play music etc he's just got some kind of vendetta against us which is ruing our life's causing arguments between my wife and myself she wants to run away as its making her ill and me dropping 50k on some nutter makes me sick and there's no way we could go now anyway we'd have to save a couple of years to afford it which means going without holiday etc. We wanted another baby but can't with my wife in this state we already lost one a few months back.
Sorry for the long winded post theres a lot more which I have not gone into.
Also did you know that if i sell my house and the new owner has similar problems I can get sued by the new owner for selling them a house next to crazy perosn life just gets better and better.
Mariposa
That sounds awful. To be honest, other than waiting for your neighbor to move out (might take a while) or stop acting crazy (not gonna happen), I don't really think you will have much of a choice other than move. You'll probably lose some money but you'll gain back your sanity (and if your wife is really suffering so badly from this it might just be worth it).
But where did you hear that you could be sued by a new owner if you don't tell them about the crazy neighbor? I can't imagine that is true. After all you don't even know if he may only be acting like this with you (doesn't sound like your other neighbors have this problem).
NoBullJim
Wow, can't you sue the ass that sold YOU the house? I think a one time good deal is to kick the living shit out of him (on your property of course) and take the punishment from the legal system. This way, he just might get the message and find some other poor bastards door bell to ring. A simple "really good ass waxing" is in order at this point. Good luck. Also consider buying and installing a camera to monitor your door and driveway. Catch the fucker on film (with the time hack) and bring it to the authorities. Sometimes it pays to be smarter than the asshole, I mean perpetrator.
Expaticus
The police come back they can tell my neighbour is a nutter. He's oriental by the way married with one child but they sleep separately and do not associate with anybody just stay in the house the whole time no friends etc at all. All the stuff is done when his wife is not there taking the kid to school or when she works. She had no idea any of this is going on hard to believe I know.
You're vietnamese (with the delightfully-ironic ID of "RAMBO"), and this guy's "oriental". Is he ethnic chinese or cambodian or whatever?

The german cops show up and see two "asians" going at it. What makes you think that they're on your side?

I'm most sympathetic to your plight, but how did the authorities separate out who's the "psycho" and who's not?
Moonboot
definitely keep a diary of events, and buying a video camera is a good idea, you can record his anti-social behaviour. do you have a German friend who can accompany you to the police to accurately explain your version of events?
the guy is obviously enjoying getting a reaction from you, although it sounds like its difficult to ignore his behaviour.
perhaps the solution is to move house, dont see it as giving in and letting him win, rather you are rising above the situation and leaving him to it. he must be desperately unhappy.
Mariposa
perhaps the solution is to move house, dont see it as giving in and letting him win, rather you are rising above the situation and leaving him to it. he must be desperately unhappy.
I agree. I mean just thinking of getting up so early just to ring your neighbor's door bell... It's not just you who is woken by this, he has to be awake to do it in the first place. I cannot imagine ever being so bothered by anyone that I would give up my night's sleep just to play stupid pranks on them.
eurovol
A €100 in the right hands will sort your problem out.
Bipa
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Rimini
This situation sounds unbearable. It also sounds like harrassment. Have you talked some more about this with the lawyer who initially sent the guy a letter? Perhaps he could help you with a more long-term solution? Can't you sue this guy for harrassment?
Darkknight
A video camera pointing at our entrance to watch our comings and goings.
This part alone is highly illegal and against all the privacy laws. If the police won't help, then contact the city attorney's office directly.
(You never said where you live, so we can't provide the details for you)

As the others have mentioned, install your own cameras (Pointing at your doors and your doors/windows only), taking pictures, and keeping
a log of the actions will greatly help in your case. Eventually if it goes to court, they could find him to be an official "Nut job", and haul his
ass off to the funny farm.

In the mean time have a look at the previous posts dealing with the same thing.

Threatening behavior from a neighbor
Scuffle with neighbor, police seem biased
How to legally annoy your neighbor
My neighbor has a camera above their front door
Nighttime disturbances by an insane neighbor
Mariposa
As the others have mentioned, installing your own cameras (Pointing at your doors and your doors/windows only), taking pictures, and keeping
a log of the actions will greatly help in your case. Eventually if it goes to court, they could find him to be an official "Nut job", and haul his
ass off to the funny farm.
But make sure you only have the camera film your own property. Just like it is illegal for your neighbor to film your property, it is illegal for you to film his.
RainyDays
I doubt that any court can find the magic solution for you to enjoy peace and quiet. Sure, you can sue, but all the past incidents might not have much probative value for lack of accurate documentation and evidence. And what's up with the broken nose? So I'm not sure that you would get a court decision that will entirely satisfy you. Perhaps a professional mediation effort would bring about more useful results (= a normalisation of the interaction between you and the neighbour). Maybe your city offers this service?

Other than that, I agree with other posters that moving might be the best medium term solution and could spare your and your wife's nerves from further wrecking. You could rent your current house out and move into another place as tenants. You could benefit tax-wise, too.
Oblomov
Unfortunately there is no magic bullet to get rid of such people. Unless you want to take up eurovol´s suggestion and ask some sturdy friends to have a quiet word with this guy one evening I suggest you contact your lawyer to get a cease and desist order.
rhody
This part alone is highly illegal and against all the privacy laws. If the police won't help, then contact the city attorney's office directly.
Are you sure about that? Pointing a camera at your own door is illegal? Why are they selling these systems at Metro with night vision and everything then? If the nutcase comes back on to the property and is banging on the door all the time, you'll have full evidence on tape to bring to the district attorney for a case. You can then make arguments that he is a danger to you and your family and perhaps they can send him off for a few weeks in the psychiatric hospital for some some help.

I also wouldn't move. Sort the bastard out.
Darkknight
Are you sure about that? Pointing a camera at your own door is illegal?
Try reading the post again.. In the list of "Things crazy Neighbor as done"..

A video camera pointing at our entrance to watch our comings and goings.
Why are they selling these systems at Metro with night vision and everything then?
There is nothing Illegal about having the a camera, however there are many laws concerning its use, setup, and areas monitored.
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