American Barbeque Rib House in Lehel

I had big ass barbeque Friday at the American Rib House in Lehel. Paradiese Strasse 8, half a block down from Tram 17. 089220482. Its run by Germans but if your jonesing for a bit of Americana, this could be for you.

I might snap some photos and do a proper review or at least copy and paste this one but then again I might not so let me list some thoughts before I forget.

Anyhoo, the exterior has a photo of a steer horns that would do any Texan proud, the interior is complete with Flags, photos of the presidents - even Ford- a Faux Statue of Liberty. Oh and when I say Flags, I mean Flags. In Your Face Flags. Everywhere. Except for the the spot with the fur skin. For those of you that know your fur skin, it was a decent size pelt. I didnt get up close...it wasn't "throw it down and get it on in front of the fire pelt" but it wasn't cat either. Oh no flags on the spot with the crocodiles or alligators. I can never tell them apart. Whatever but one of them - and kangaroosies I think - were also on the special menu for two. Oh and back to the flags, the napkins were red, white and blue statue of liberty flags and all the dishes came with little American flags stuck in them. Which is great because if you hate the US but still want to check it out, you can do so without selling out since you can blow your nose (or whatever) with the flag napkin and pick your teeth with the flag stick.

The ballpark prices range up to 5 euros for appetizers and chili, 8 euros for stuff baked potatoes and burgers, 10-12 for rib platters. A bit more I think for steaks but definitely not a bank breaker. Theres budweiser on the menu as well but dont hold that against them as theres plenty of real beer in proper Maß glasses.

They have a weekly all you can eat rib night (I think Wednesday, though call to confirm) for about 10 yoyos. Live music on Saturdays and I think daily lunch specials.

Before bringing peeps out for a real test, I had to try it out. BTW: German country music was playing overhead. Im pretty sure it was Friends in Low Places. I ordered a bacon cheeseburger, TO GO. (I hate eating alone so that part is VIP). I got a big ass burger: meat, bacon, and cheese on a decent plain ass white bun. With a pile of fries. Near my house. To Go. 7.50 euros. I nearly cried at the beauty of it all. The burger at The Arc is probably better, I never had it but damn Gina that always looks good. This one was made of hackfleisch but it still passed the test, i.e. tasty, juicy and no unidentifiable objects. I'm pretty sure the cheese was bonafide american cheese. I dont know for sure since I dont eat American cheese often but it had that taste AND it was Kraft square if you know what I mean.

I went back with a small group this last Friday. I think the most satisfied peeps ordered burgers or sandwiches which came with fries. The grilled turkey breast sandwich look really good. BtW: Memo tells me turkey in Turkey is called Hindi because Turkey peeps thought that Turkey eats came from India. Only the westerners thought that turkeys (little t) came from Turkey (big T) and the Turkeys were like, thats news to us you turkeys. I don't know where the Indians stand on all of this but Im sure they were like, whatever Turkeys and turkeys, its all Jalfreezi Peasy. I gotta google that before I go telling it to some people, like now.

Back to the menu, one person gave a nod to the huftsteaks, which came with a baked tater. I thought it looked kinda small in comparison to the sandwiches but thats more indicative of the sandwiches than the steaks.

The rest of us ordered rib platters. Big ass rib platters, beef and/or pork with a variety of sauces. They were definitely not like the ribs you get from back home and the sauces were definitely not spicy as advertised. For those of you who are satisified with the biergarten ribs, looking for County Line or *know* the difference between Texas, St. Louis and Kansas City ribs, dont bother. But I would say that for around these parts, the quantity and prices, the ribs were ok.
so if'n your looking for that feeling you get when a friendly lady sets a big ass platter full of ribs in front of you, then this might be for you.

The service was really friendly both times I visited. The only major complaint is they didnt have enough menus, apparently some wank took them, and the big blah was that it took over an hour to get our food - and one half of the table was served well before the other.

Overall I would say this place is not for everyone. If you lik- a-d' Americana, its worth checking out at least once just for fun. The atmosphere is OTT, the service is friendly, the eats are cheap. I don't plan on going back any time soon but if someone organizes an event there, I would pop in. Note, I imagine reservations are recommended for larger groups, especially on the weekly all you can eat night. I'd definitely work it out in advance somehow to serve the group at the same time. Otherwise that bites. Also if smoke bothers you head there early to avoid the crowd.

Over and out and happy eats peeps.

PS: The location has turned over quite a bit so if you want to check it out do it soon. The last place was some dive bar with darts. I never went in cause I was sure there was a busted gimp up in there somewhere. BrokenM tells me it used to be some Chinese place prior but I dont know if I believe him cause he's shady like that, just like all those Lehel gangstas.

PPS: There was a bonus sight: German guy at the bar with a mullet. It wasnt a mullet to write home about but it was aaight. I couldnt tell though if he was working IT at the bar or just working the bar. In either case I was distracted enough by mediocre mullet man to nearly forget the old couple making out in the corner. Nearly. No one, especially old peeps, should not, I repeat, should not, cop feels in public.

...if someone hates "America" why would they want to go to an "American" restaurant? Don't really understand...

I will definitely five it a try sometime in the next couple of weeks. I am from the deep south in the USA and really miss good ribs. Being the total carnivore that I am, I am looking forward to it. Thanks for the post!

gangsta??? I only protect my 'hood. L-town...but it was Showem that had the info on it being a Chinese restaurant, I only knew it as the dart (the true underbelly of Lehel) kneipe!!

I have to add to this review and say that I ordered and wings and ribs platter. When I finally received it, the chicken wings were cold in the middle, having either been microwaved or not deep fried long enough. Cooked through, but cold, so obviously not the freshest of fresh as they were reheated. I had the "spicy" version of ribs and they weren't even a little bit spicy. I've had spicier ribs in the beergartens. We were given a free dish of 2 sorts of nacho chips and 4 dips, but one of the types was a bit stale and at least 3 of the dips came straight out of a bottle. We did eat it though.

To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't recommend this place.

I would recommend it if you're desperate for ribs. Not as good as in the US as jml says, but better than any I've had at beergartens or the Unionbrau (vomit). would like to know which beergartens showem has had ribs at though.

edit: also worth noting the that helles is Lowenbrau...

Are the ribs here better than the ribs at Rusticana?

Can you eat the ribs there correctly e.g. with your hands or will people stare me down like the barbarian that I am?

hands. they actually give you a wet nap for after.

Mini pup approved of the ribs as well, and the big pan of water he got...

Never been to Rusticana but would like to check it out, once I get over meat overload. I forgot about the cold wings showem. Thanks for noting it. To be perfectly clear I recommend the place for flag waving fun not for food, especially for those of us that get tired of the US bashing. The food at best is ok, better burgers and wings to be had at the Arc, and definitely better salsa and equally cheap and plentiful eats (of a different kind) at the TwiBa but the OTT Americana is definitely

Ribs were passable, but skip the platter of "mixed meats" - i.e. the Rib House Mix - and go for just pork ribs. The beef ribs tasted slightly like horsemeat - or donkey. I swear when I belched afterwords it made an "eeyore" sound and I felt like I was a bit worried I was on Pleasure Island - thankfully pinnochio was nowhere to be seen.

I can attest that they will serve you a beer in a Maßkrug. However, I have never before been served one of those in a regular restaurant (Hofbrauhaus is not a regular restaurant). I think they dug it up just for me.

One special bonus is that the place seems to be popular with the golden oldie set. We had the distinct pleasure of watching a 65 year old used-car-salesman looking playa wearing a Don Johnson jacket suck face with a 70 year old Tammy Faye look-alike. That alone was worth the price of admission.

The food was OK. As the food in Munich is, imho, no better than average-to-mediocre generally I would rate this place somewhere in the middle of the pack. But then, I was the one drinking out of the Maß, so maybe my opinion ain'ta so worthwhile.

Variety meats of unknown origin are always the best to go for. Especially some sort of intestine or caul fat stuffed with a rich blend of variety animal parts. Fantastic.

I couldn't complain about my steak - size wasn't too big but I anyway don't like getting stuffed for dinner.
The interior couldn't be more kitchy, but for an American restaurant that just makes it authentic


jml, are you going cold turkey???

Ive been cold turkey for years...most of my life actually...thats the problem, really.

Right, so my L-town hommie Broken-M tells me they've got all you can eat burgers on Monday night. Totally did not believe him, hell he didn't believe him. But sure enough we walked by there this evening and the sign said:

ALL YOU CAN EAT: 7.90
Montag: Burgers
Dinstag: Chicken Wings - yes thats the verbatim spelling ... 'dinstag'
Mittwoch: Spare Ribs

Reviews on all categories above, which are so not stellar. But if you're looking for cheap and plenty eats in OTT americana setting. This could be the place for you.

I havent been back since the review night above, but the service was nice and the flags weren't burning so I might pop in, next time I'm trying big ass turkey sandwhich

American Rib House in Lehel
Paradiese Strasse 8, half a block down from Tram 17
089220482.

Ordered take-out from this place (all meals can be for take-out) once with another TTer. We ended up talking with the owner/main person working there while the food was being made. Really friendly guy, who sounded like he was not happy with Germany at all and loved the US. After waiting inside for 15 minutes or so (ok, after 5 minutes even), we couldn't wait to get outside because of the smoke smell. In terms of the food, I wasn't at all impressed. We each ordered one of their tortillas, and they were pretty bland. Can't really remember much more specifics about the food, but it wasn't very good. Overall, I'm not a fan of the place.

@BSF

Why would you order tortillas at a Rib house? Or for that matter, when you see the small statue of liberty there? But anyways, the food would not have been better no matter what you ordered! However, it is an almost MUST visit with the Americana ambience (almost like Las Vegas for Paris).

Fair enough, brokenm. Neither of us really wanted ribs. That big Statue of Liberty was a bit odd, I have to say. No matter what we ordered, the smokey inside was bad enough. Mind you, this was early evening, and there wasn't even anyone smoking or eating inside.

strange comment BostonSportsFan. Are u a Tex Mex snob huh?? It´s not easy to even make the real mexican food here. Ingredients are complete different! Anyway - went to BBQ Rib House and can definitely recommend that place. Well priced ant the ambience and atmosphere is well america - friendly service and sometimes quality live music - guess friday july 5th. They serve Lowenbreu...Anyway, we had a whale of a time.
We´been there for hours and there was absolute no smoke smell!!! Don´t forget BSFan: This is not america! Try to eat a "schweinebraten or other bavarian food in a american restaurant...that´s no picnic!

Alan might recommend the place. I would not.

If I want to eat Schweinebraten, I'll go to a Bavarian (not American-style) restaurant and whether it's in Munich or Michigan, I expect it to be at least decent food. This was not.

showem: did u ever eat a Schweinebraten in the states? I did and say forget it! You can´t expect the same stuff here in Germany as in your hometown. This is typic american thinking!!!
Why didn´t u tell the waitress that your Wings were cold?? Is this a problem? Why didn´t you order extra spicy sauce or tabasco?? just negative comments, but in the restaurant your quiet huh? Tell the service your problem. They are really friendly!
The upshot is: The owner try to bring the most "German" guests a little America to munich! They love it and that is good! Still a place who love America...
I wanna know: What is your opinion about the Mc Donalds nothingburger food here??

Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not someone to sit and suffer silently. I did tell the waitress my wings were cold. She apologized and brought them double deep-fried back out. I had already lost my appetite. As for the sauce, if a sauce claims to be spicy, I don't usually think I have to order it "extra spicy" to simply be a bit spicy.

I wasn't quiet in the restaurant, I told them what the problems were, but this is my fair review of the place afterwards. And saying "they can't do it like they do in the States" is a bit of a cop-out. I've had great Tex-Mex at Twisted Bavarian and great burgers and ribs in many places in Munich (Treznewski, Edisons, beergardens). I think you are a bit defensive over the issue.

Could the problem also be that Showem is Canadian not American? Maybe a little KD Lang, and some Poutine and all would have been fine. Sounds like Rusticana would eat this place for lunch. Ribs rocked there, I thought...

Interesting. Showem is Canadian.

alanss is Canadian.

Hmm. Why haven't they synchronized peacefully in a Canuck mind meld wave-of-understanding? One of them must be an imposter, aye?

Canada is in America. Look up your geography, and not so USA centric.

Applause Mrbobke applause! The Lady has no idea. She recommend "Edison & Co" "Tresznjewski" and the "Twisted Bavarian" .

I´ve already been there. Ed & Co serve a Edison Burger with potatoes!! 8.00 Euros and-Listen: Spareribs with "soße"!! and "bread"!! 5.60 Euros. What´s up ? The chilli is real dog food!

Tresznjewski: It´s wort to read the feedback for the this restaurant!!! www.kneipen-suche.com Bad food, bad food and so on!! Burger with a chili sauce, worst pizza, ceasar´s salad with fried egg... Only for students. Maybe shoem is a student?

"Twisted Bavarian": the nachos were store bought with a original German tex salsa - sweet-kraft ketchup. The burritos were pretty average and the Guacamole was also store bought. 5 persons can´t be wrong!!!
Read also the feedback of "Twisted Bavarian" on munichfound.de: ...haggis-stuffed knödel with ribs...

Is it that what u like shoem??? Enjoy your meal!

You sound like a big whinger to me. I'd trust showem's opinion any day over some random complainer like yourself.

I can't say I've been to Edison & Co or Tresznjewski, but the Twisted Bavarian is excellent! Their BLT burrito is awesome, and I just had a fantastic and really unique lasagna there.


Oh, that's statistically significant.

Edit: A word of advice - it's probably not a good idea to show up on a forum where people actually know each other personally and start insulting random people you don't know.

Leave Showem alone. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion without having personal insults slung their way. Play nicely now, children.

You say it's worth the read...but have you actually eaten there? They have a regular burger which is very nicely done...and the salad that I had certainly did not have a fried egg. You can't believe everything you read.

Could not find the article you refer to on munichfound.de about the Twisted Bavarian. Nachos are not store bought though...and the salsa is REAL...no matter what those 5 people say. Also if you read the reviews on the TT pages...you will see the feedback is very good. So it also depends on where you read the feedback.

allanss,

You did NOT get store bought nachos at the Twisted Bavarian. Jesus Nevarrez at La Tortillia makes flour on M, W, & F and corn on Tue & Th. When you order nachos, they are corn tortillias. we fry em up to order.

The salsa was NOT from a can and didn't have sugar in it baby.

As for store bought Guac, BUSTED! We buy avocado pulp and fag it up a bit with pico de gallo and fresh chopped avocado. Our true challenge is finding a Haas avocado in Germany. Most of the fresh avocados here are watery and hard as rock. If you let them ripen naturally they are black by the time you can use them. We submerge our avocados in rice to speed up the process.

Pico de Gallo
Fresh tomato
White onion
Fresh cilantro (ahem, coriander auf Deutsch)
Fresh lime juice
Splash of sonnenblumen oil
Salt
Fresh chopped Thai chilli (forgive me for not being able to get my hands on fresh jalapenos; I will not put pickled pepper in salsa.

house salsa
The same as above excluding chilli's and blended

roasted habanero & mango
can of mangos
Equal parts hard as rock not yet ripened nor gassed German fresh mango
Finely chopped roasted habanero or Scotch bonnet pepper
Fresh cilantro
Chop it up
Mix it up

carrot
roasted carrot, onion & habanero pepper
cover with water, reduce, blend

diablo
Roasted habanero peppers
reduced to a paste

In closing, give us another shot, you must have had a bad cook day. I'll give you a buy one get one free, simply send me a PM. Hell, I do it for anyone who sends me a PM.

quit picking on showem, she's not here to defend herself at the moment
and she's my mate

I think I would prefer if alanss lists which restaurants he does like, then I would know which ones not to eat at, as I think he has the opposite inclination towards food as I do-I choose taste, he chooses-who knows??? But I was there with Showem and she requested what she wanted and she asked with the upmost decorum.

you're just trying to pump up Lehel, brokenm, and you know it...

Go L-town!!!

BTW Haggis is lovely. Katrina organized a Burns' Night with haggis, imported extra from Scotland. And I found the Munich Found reference:


http://www.munichfound.de/new.cfm?news_ID=1956 -- right at the top of the page. My bold, but the quote is genuine, the dish is not.

The ribs at Cast on Leopoldstr. are pretty good and I think they have all-you-can-eat on them on Saturdays (mind you, one plate is plenty for me...)

Cheers

Just to add my two-cents. I'm not in munich area at this time, didn't really frequent TT events when I was in the area, but one thing I know for sure is that something tells me Alanss hasn't been to the TB! (maybe he has it confused with another place).

One place I did enjoy going in Munich when I would take daytrips to bike around, or site see was the Twisted Bavarian. I have ALWAYS had wonderful service and hospitality and oustanding food from the suthrn' breakfast to my outstanding Thanksgiving meal. You cannot beat the salsas, mango habenero (sp) is excellent.

Anyway, just my opinion. I would encourage you to give it another try Alan.

considering in my current location it was 126 degrees at noon today, I will most likely dream about having a frozen margarita and big ass burrito with Texas Tornado and crew tonight.

Drinking Bud is Munich ... hehehe... now if the EU wants to ban something...

I don't think I've ever seen schweinebraten on the menu at an American restaurant ... with the exception of the Hofbraühaus in Las Vegas (yes, auch in Las Vegas steht ein Hofbraühaus)and the occasional German restaurant in the US, I think one would be hard pressed to find this meal in the States. Although the pork industry has been aggressively trying to sell the 'other white meat' for years, the Americans still tend to favor chicken and beef. Call me crazy, but I don't think a filet of pork wrapped in a crispy 'mantel' of pig skin, drenched in a watery gravy with a side of dumplings would really go over very well with the American dining public. Perhaps things are different in Canada???

I had a Czech girlfriend who visited me for a couple of months, she LOVES baby back ribs. At her request, we kept going to a barbecue place in SF. She would order a big slab of barbecue ribs, potato wedges, an apple caramel pie, and a root beer to wash it down. Personally, I wouldn't put that SHIT in my gorgeous body I would merely order a grilled chicken with a rice, and a seltzer.. I saw her gain, in complete disgust, 20lbs in only two months, and eventually broke up with her. I now find carnivorous women to be a turn-off, my current girlfriend is a vegetarian, Thank God.

Well, Marcus, if there wasn't a single hint of bullshit anywhere else in your ramblings, we'd still know you were lying. Nobody outside the US and Australia would ever dare to wash down their ribs with a root beer.

amimuc: you will find a bavarian restaurant in San Francisco who serves up Schweinebraten with knodel and I tell you it´s terrible! I was there with two bavarian friends and believe me: They do know how it taste! And that´s what I mean. You will not find a real Schweinebraten in America so you will not find real barbecue ribs in munich. All I said was that the ribs in the Barbecue Rib House are good - for me and 8 other people. What´s wrong?

Smoke smell in a German restaurant? Strange huh? Strange as the beer smell in a German restaurant!
Just monkey business!

Hi Woody!!! Grin... coming Friday sept /2/5 - Live Music - Barbecue Rib House 8pm- see ya - looking forward- alan - don´t forget your Elvis glasses!!!

Hi Folks !

I highly recommend the Barbecue Rib House and I will tell you why...

I´m wondering why americans who live here in munich made negative feedback as for example shoem?!?
I am a German and I´ve been the first time in the states 3 weeks ago. I was with my girlfriend, her mother and a friend of mine. Our first trip was Las Vegas. The first day as we went to get something to eat was a restaurant called "Terrible". As the name - so the food! I got a strange meat (Sirloin) with a sauce served with mushrooms mixed in majonese and a potato salad with beans! My girlfriend ordered a T-bone medium and it came well done with a brown sauce!!! The rest of the food was fried, fried and fried again with sauces and sirup... I thought by myself: Is this the food what the americans eat? And I learned - it was!

Next day, next Restaurant, called "Dennys". One look in the menue card and I just saw fast food like: fried chicken with marinara sauce, roast beef with "mushrooms" and a sautéed ugly sauce, fried chicken breast with a "green" dressing sauce, fried chicken strips, "mushroom burger", T-bone with "fried" shrimps, fried shrimps with a "tartar" sauce... just shit!!! This has absolute nothing to do with food! Just fat, fried, fried and fried again! Food mixed with colored sauces and syrup and uhrrrrg...

I finally eat a pork - or was it a kind of alien meat? - fried (again) with a "white sauce". The food stuck in my throat and I washed every peace with my Coke. My girlfriends mother ate a sampler - of course fried and fat! Denny´s should change the oil of the deep fryer. My girlfriend - she likes steak - ordered a medium steak and I swear it was well done and served with a """"apple sauce""""" and """cinnamon apples"""!!! Just pervert!!! Is it that what you like shoem??? Is this your style.

I wished I might eat something from the Rib House and I remembered the negative feedbacks...

We´ve been 4 days in Vegas. It means 4 days of torture as far as the food is concerned! We didn´t know that the nightmare was coming soon...

We left Vegas and arrived in Memphis. Hi Elvis! Oh I forget - Delta Airlines served a chicken breast topped with a "red sweet sauce". In that sauce swam our corn mixed with PEA!!! Mercy!

Check in on Elvis Blvd and let´s go something to eat! We searched and searched but we didn´t find a restaurant. Strange I said. We passed every street and just read: Burger King, Mc Donalds, Chinese restaurants, H O P wich means house of pancakes... I finally stopped the car and ask a young black guy. Go downtown he said! We did and we find a restaurant called "Steak House".

We went in and where brought to our place. Shock: T-Bone 18,75 plus tax, Budweiser 4,50 plus tax - and I remembered the Rib House where I get my south american Steak to 12,50 Euros.. include Tax!

But O.K. we´re on vacation - let´s spend and enjoy. We all ordered the offered T-bone and we waited for 45 minutes. As the waitress brought the food I might cry! T-bone served with hash browns and mashed potatoes plus a natural sour cream wich means: no salt, no spice, n o t h i n g!!!

And I swear:" The Steak was well done!" Where we landed, where we are? I couldn´t believe! Candid camera or what? I remember, this was the first time I´m angry! I didn´t eat that dog muck. I startet a discussion with my girlfriend and we talked about the Barbecue Rib House and the negative feedback writers. Who do they think they are? Are they snobs or what? I really, really like to know what a guy like shoem or others eat - daily. This kind of food? This was the worst food I ever ate in my whole life!!! and they have the cheek to give negative feedbacks!
O.K, I heard before my trip that americans don´t have a so called eat culture - but this was a horror! Just muck!

Next day, next station. We went to a recommended restaurant in Memphis. They awarded because of the best ribs of Tennessee. Unfortunately I forgot the restaurants name. As always very friendly service and of course we ordered the highly recommended southern ribs with a secret self made sauce. We ordered the large portion for 4 persons.

The waiter came with two plates and put them in the middle of the table. I said: We ordered the large portion for 4. Sir, he said, this is the large rack.

Let me explain: Large rack spare ribs for 4 adult people with secret self made sauce means in america two racks baby ribs with approx. 20 cm lenght! We shared our ribs and I made my first bit. A taste of a strange but well known taste came over me. I looked at my girlfriend, her mother, my friend and I recognized that they tasted the same like me. Cruel! This are the best southern ribs? Award? Secret? Again: Candid camera or what. Suddenly I knew the taste. It was just the store bought Jack Daniels sauce!!! This is americas secret - Baby spare ribs with a store bought Jack Daniels sauce! Enough is enough and from now I know One of the best ribs I ever ate in my live are the ribs from the Barbecue Rib House! And one thing I will tell you all folks: If I will read just a negative feedback about that restaurant - I grin, no I will laugh and will even laugh louder if the feedback comes from an american who lives here in munich!

I love america and I love the americans with all the good and bad characteristics - but - be quiet as far as food is concerned.

We finally left Memphis and we arrived in Miami and we drove to Ft. Lauderdale. There we had rent a large house with a large kitchen. Just before we went to the white sandy beach, we went to Publix and bought our food. The last 9 days was a enjoyment of our palate, because we cooked a normal food with medium Steaks and baked potatoes without fried stuff and syrup and yellow,red,green and white sauces. We cooked every day several food and it was just great!

And the coming days I will visit the Barbecue Rib House and will order my medium angus Steak for lousy 12,50 include tax with a side of a baked potato with a tastefull sour cream and a grilled self made garlic butter bread.

And if there is a guest who recognize that I enjoy my food I will tell him my story...

WTF? You're comparing a Rib House "specialty" restaurant in Germany to American tourist food and chain crap-houses. That's apples and oranges.

Once you finally do make a comparison that is valid - the Tennessee steakhouse, you throw a fit, because your steak sauce in Tennessee tastes just like another one - MADE IN FRIGGIN' TENNESSEE! What the hell did you expect?

And Showem's not a guy.

Ummmm...look at his profile...it's obviously a joke...anyway how is a German who can't spell "piece" going to know what candid camera is?

it better be a joke!!! yes the US has some shitty food, but so does everywhere! hmm... the US also has such restaurants as the French Laundry... i dont think you'll find ANYONE bitching about that place!
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Nor is Showem American.

Madman's proflie says he is American? Sure. I believe that one.

And I have a bridge for sale in Arizona...