Dynamo Dresden fans corralled by police in Munich

On my way to the English Garden in Munich this Sunday I stopped by the Hauptbahnhof to grab some food. As soon as I got off the U-Bahn I see 30 drunken louts drinking and smoking being rowdy cursing and swearing smashed bottles everywhere all in yellow and black football t-shirt. I carry on walking through the station to see other such groups of different sizes all looking drunk and aggressive. As I go onto the main platform I start to hear a loud chanting and rumbling like being inside a football stadium and loads of locals with cameras out and staring at something. A train had just arrived more than likely from Dresden, around 200 riot police about 20 police dogs and what looked like army reserves has made a blockage stopping 400 hundred hooligan/dirty chavs who were shouting at the police and the locals the cops surrounded them and slowly moved them through the station but wouldn't let any of them escape. The police looked very well in control and it was funny to see their fans being cowed.

But seriously, what's this all about?! Without the police there the Dresden fans look more like an invading Norse army. I have seen plenty of other football teams come to Munich, both German and European, and the fans have always been very friendly. In fact I often see the rival fans stood around Hauptbahnhof sharing a beers with the local fans laughing and joking, sharing the same U-Bahn up to the game. Yes there is a little banter and rowdiness but the Dresden fans looked ready to stab the first Munich fan they found. I do wish the fan had provoked the police because they would have had their arses handed to them. Also the police had a few offices with recording equipment, very smart move.

Is this common? Or are Dynamo Dresden just a one off dirty bunch of chavs?

By the way, I have no desire to ever go to Dresden.

Don't say you weren't warned. EDIT: This needs a new link.

I haven't seen any trouble in Dresden of this sort and I have been here for about a year now.

@parky - it is pretty shit when a few idiots go on like this. I am no great fan of the football club as it is not yet big enough to need to attract families to watch. As such they still have a lot of idiots supporting the club (not all, most are ok people just going to watch football).

Should the club ever get big enough they will start to weed out the trouble makers with higher ticket prices. Not all but maybe the majority. At the moment they are only a minor league team and so have to take all the support they can get (minor league as in the club, they are in the league - if only because they added a division)...

I would however like to hand you the 'generalization of the day' award. You managed to convey the point that you feel so much that the whole population of Dresden is like this, you would not like to visit.

I guess we will not miss you here - I would also suggest avoiding Glasgow on home match days.

As a side point, I have seen more Police than this in Manchester when Millwall came to play man-city (and in Reading when Millwall visited there).

I take it you have never been to any games before then ?

The machismo is that loud and raucous because the Police are there to pen them in and escort them to the ground.

Were these hard guys in the open and vulnerable to attack the great majority would not chant what they do, it's easy to be a tough guy when a line of Police separates you from your so called hated rivals.

I have witnessed the same behaviour both in the UK and across Europe and it's just a bunch of pissed up guys feeling secure in their pack and roaring their territorial challenge to the incumbent pack, it's just noisy, don't sweat it.

No, I haven't been to any games in Dresden. I prefer football that is a bit further away form Sunday league than Dynamo are

But then again the OP was also not at the match, they were at the train station. if it is that bad, you would not need to go to the watch to see trouble.

Spot on regarding the pack mentality.

Sorry cb, the Q was aimed at the OP not you, not very clear i guess.

Hey BD - no probs. I am having a really bad day

Will you be passing through Dresden any time soon? I am sure we can find another bar that may look even more run down


Although I guess that is the look the owners were aiming for

Hmm, i follow Fortuna Düsseldorf and last year they played Dresden. This is a rather normal occurence. Btw the Dresden game wasn't the worst outbreak of violence.
It's not only because police are there. After one game large groups of our team stopped ubahn trains with away fans, pelted them with bottles and cobble stones and tried ot pull them out. After those away fans beat up family fathers in front of their kids. (IIRC it was Wuppertal) And police had to stop the whole mess.

I'd say welcome to the lower leagues. Family friendly? To a degree. But indeed Dresden prides itself to send rather bad fans on away games.

@toko - does it? I hadn't heard....

Are you trying to take that generalization of the day award form the OP?

You do mean the football team right? I only ask as I am guessing there are people in the city who support other football teams and to bother sending all the crap Munich fans to Munich away games would be just to much work.....**


There used to be a lot more trouble at matches in the UK until the season ticket system came in. Once you have paid 500+ quid for a ticket you soon start thinking about not losing that by being banned....

I'm sure i'll be back up there soon but to be honest The Ostpol is kind of my local haunt when I go there nowadays, I quite like the decor

Plus beer at 1.80 or 2.10 a pint is quite appealing too . .

Wouldn't mind a wander up Luisenstr next time i'm back though since it's summer and people are out on the streets instead of Winter where me and my mate were the only ones to be seen past 8pm in the Neustadt.

[size="3">Fook me and you come from Barnsley!

What fooking bag of cotton wool have you been wrapped up in every Saturday between 11:00 and 15:00 since the day you were born?

@BD - If you don't mind sitting with some of the more *cough* down to earth types I can point you in the direction of a bar where it's a €1 a bottle......

Yes, Dynamo Dresden. It's no generalization. They indeed have scum away fans.
They're not the only ones, but fighting for one of the top spots.

I don't think that you'd realize it, since you live in Dresden. I know that they do not represent the average person of Dresden,
but the average away fan of Dynamo Dresden.

I think you may find that it was banning orders that stopped people going within x miles of the town centres on match days. Even tho they had not been convicted of anything.

Which would be a bit of a twat given that you had just paid 500 quid for a season ticket when the stadium was in the town center.....