Neo-Nazis attack man on Frankfurter Allee - Berlin

Four Neo-Nazis from Koenigs Wuesterhausen attacked a "random" victim early Sunday morning in S Bahnhof Frankfurter Allee.

On Saturday there will be a demonstration against the Neo Nazis in Basarinplatz, at 6 pm.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/Polizei-...;art126,2847145

Any chance of having a demo against the fascist punks and demonstrators who make life on Rigaerstr. hell for the majority of citizens who have tolerated their herds of dogs, excrement, destruction of anything that brightened the area up or was any good to the local community? Any chance of having a demonstration against the fuckwits who burnt local people's uninsured cars that were their living? Any chance of having a demo against the stinking creeps who shout at their dogs and kick them while swigging the next Sternberg and pissing on the wall of the bakery? Any chance of a demo against anti capitalists who constantly ask you for money?

It's disgusting that this young person was nearly beaten to death but another demo and another 100,000 € spent on police from an empty purse won't change that. It will not change the attitude of the protestors who shout, 'No justice no peace, fuck the police'. It won't help the police to attend the scene of such a crime or attempted murder either... will not motivate them in any shape or form. Putting them on fire and stoning them also won't help a lot.

If you don't need the police, the laws of the jungle rule and if you can't look after your own people then demonstrate against yourselves... which is what you normally unknowingly do anyway I suppose. So much Darwinism about these days.

I share your sentiments, HAL9000, but can doing absolutely nothing ever be productive? Whether Edmund Burke said it or not doesn't matter, but as events in this our host country proved in the 1930s "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

It is odd you mention that. At the start of the allied uncalled for attack on the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan after 9/11 I wrote your quote on a bed sheet and attended a demo with a huge bunch of people on the street. The thick punks didn't get it and started shouting at me, 'American bastard'! They are uneducated or brain damaged on mass and act as a tool for certain interests without even knowing. It's all about self hate and most of them could do with a bit of love and therapy of one sort or another yet it is difficult to see if their mushy brains could even deal with it. Many people get beaten half to death in Berlin every weekend but it's the Nazi element that gets this one to the front pages. Punks never have the idea of visiting schemes for lonely old people, working in animal shelters, cleaning up after their own shit or the likes. They are not community minded unless there are minded to put their money together to buy the next crate of multinational capitalist beer and even then there is still a row. Why should the community give a f*ck about them?

Well I do give a f*ck about that young man and his pain but not any more than the old lady found dead in her flat after six months while her punk neighbors who had made her life hell partied on next door.

I think you might be right there.

"Uncalled for?" Really? I have a bunch of dead acquanitances' families who'd beg to differ. Even my dad, the most unreconstructed limousine liberal leftie on the face of the planet thinks it's what has to be done, and even the level-headed Barack Obama make a pretty compelling case.

Was the allied declaration of war on Germany following the invasion of Poland "uncalled for?". If not, why's it any different?

Jebus ... the way to deal with geopolitical problems isn't to paint bedsheets or complain on anonymous online fora about trustafarian nihilists; one has to roll up one's sleeves and plunge them out. If you don't like violence, than go there on your own hook and teach them to join hands and sing Kumbaya. Funny how the minute the shooting starts, the best solution is isolationism ... let 'em stew in their own juice and hope that they don't hurt us becasue we, uhhh, build them bunkers and give their despots Mercedes, etc. etc. etc..

I really think you should attempt to get a brief education in something very basic. Very very basic. All of the 9/11 bombers were from Saudi Arabia, with the exception of Fayez Banihammad who was of course from the well known hub of Democracy and tolerance the UAE. Was Saudia Arabia or the UAE attacked or invaded to root out the backers and the militants by the US? I'm not starting this on this thread so go back to school. Or perhaps think about going to school.

while I have my own views about the way thge west deals with Saudi, Osama bin Laden and his followers had been banished from the country long before 911 and were guests of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in 2001. Attacking Saudi in 2001 would therefore have achived almost nothing other than generate a ready recruitment drive for world terrorism.

I went to a pretty decent set of schools, including a school with a political science department named after a certain dead president.

So, by your reasoning, if you want to defeat the IRA , you should go after the bars of Boston and New York to squelch the funding, or if you're anti Israel, you should go to Los Angeles, New York and London to squelch the funding. Can that realistically happen? Of course not ... you go after where the bad guys are being indoctrinated, trained and equipped to squelch the immediate threat, and deal with the sympathizers later. So, let's attack Saudi Arabia, and create yet another uncontrollable ratsnest of anti-western sentiment. Are you a complete moron?

"If the mountain won't come to Mohammed, Mohammed will go to the mountain", and all that.

You may be a guest in Germany but it doesn't make you German. Are you being mental now or do you think that the pilots sat around in aircraft simulators in the middle of nowhere as Osama bin Laden said, 'Higher, lower, faster, slower.' The Bogy man is mostly under the bed and unless you forgot the bin Laden family left America during the grounding of all US aircraft after 9/11. Odd.

bad example, the UK did exactly that by persuading the USA to outlaw NORAID and the funding of IRA by US citizens.

I believe they trained in a variety of countries including Germany and the USA and the $100,000 cash sent to Atta for the immediate attack was wired from the UAE by a Pakistani ISI operative.

So, again HAL, why do you imagine that a military assault on Saudi would have achieved anything?

Wasn't this thread about Neo-Nazis attacking normal people on the street?

‘So, by your reasoning, if you want to defeat the IRA , you should go after the bars of Boston and New York to squelch the funding.’

In an odd way Bin Laden defeated the IRA. How? Well after terrorism landed on the heads of the very Irish famlies in the NYPD and the Fire Department who had collected money for years to visit terror upon the people of Northern Ireland... it seemed a bit strange.

The IRA leadership in Northern Ireland knew the game was up, they wern’t going to be able to justify the bombings, shootings and the rest of it. In fact at the end of it you ended up with a peace process, a democracy and of course a future to build on... and a nice house with police guards that you use to want killed.

If you are telling me it’s good to remove dictators then remove them and stop being so fecking selective with your friends. UAE, Saudi Arabia and the likes. Non democratic hell holes for the majority of people.

Krieg I understand but... I don't think the guy was normal and things tend to snowball even in this heat. Apart fro that I thought it was an add for a demo.

Bin Laden would have been elated at realizing the Wahhabist goal of destroying the Saudi Empire.

I have to agree with Kato. He hated them as well. It is interesting to see the history. Anybody ever won in Afghanistan. We are still going back 90 years later.