This is one reason that I find it particularly puzzling when black people go on about race. It was something that was invented to exploit people just like YOU. So isn't it better if you try to avoid it if you possibly can??
Dude, that's utterly fucking impossible. Grow up, seriously.
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that was a good one. you must be at least 15.
And also, I've already said that I don't think that people who don't date outside there race are racists, just misinformed.
I think that statement is misinformed. You are obviously completely disregarding the concept of basic physical attraction, (that statement doesn't make me a racist, or misinformed).
Errrr...what the heck are you on about?
Full Quote:But here, and because a lot of posters reflect views of not experiencing racism in dating in their lives, even the word "race" is seen negatively as people who don't have any experience may say "he's complaining about nothing."
As for what girl I want, I personally don't care who her last boyfriends were. However, in my dating experience, I regularly come across girls who tell me white guys won't date them after they find out they've dated a black guy. But thenagain, this could be just another "non-issue" pattern that I'm just making up in my head.
Let me ask you this: do you think racism exist at all in the dating world?
So you may want to consider going for women who have interaction with more mature and open minded men.Let me ask you this: do you think racism exist at all in the dating world?
We've already established race issues can permeate any area of society, so why wouldn't it exit in the dating world.
If you believe the only difference between a black american and a white american is skin color, again, I have to ask you if you're high.
so you are saying that EVERY black american is culturally different from EVERY white american? What a load of horseshit. Most black Americans probably have more in common with most white Americans that they have differences. In fact, a black New York stockbroker is probably going to be more culturally similar to the white guy sitting at the desk next to him than a drug dealer from the projects who happens to be black, who in turn will have more in common with the white guy dealing on the next corner.Similarly, I have jack shit in common with pikey chav scum from Merthyr Tydfil who come from just up the valley from me and probably have more in common with that black New York stockbroker above.
I think that statement is misinformed. You are obviously completely disregarding the concept of basic physical attraction, (that statement doesn't make me a racist, or misinformed).
And for you and the people who claim dating is a chance occurrence, just basic physical attraction, just a roll of the dice, I'll again use my mantra of the stats: college student daters in the test showing a strong racial preference, 70% of IAT test takers showing a positive preference for white people. This is not made up in my head. I know you'll ignore this though.
silly. Nobody knows what "race" means exactly.
Unless you go around with a DNA analyzer, cultural background and "alchemy" is what counts.
Unless you go around with a DNA analyzer, cultural background and "alchemy" is what counts.
shameful. and you're NOT white? No one thought of you as not-white because you're such a great guy eh? He might be an injun but he's as honest as a white man? nice (internet) pals you've got there.
If anyone said either of those things to me, I'd be mortified at their absolute cluelessness and insensitivity. Good going.
it was me that phrased it like that. Bad choice of words, i admit, but since Hazza knows me, he also knows what i meant. You see, Hazza doesn't look for problems where none exists. He doesn't cry racism simply because of a badly worded and quickly typed sentence. Perhaps thats why he gets on so well with so many different people from different backgrounds.
If anyone said either of those things to me, I'd be mortified at their absolute cluelessness and insensitivity. Good going.
@Flint24
I want to support your exploration of this subject, but you may be boxing your argument in due to the various responses. If you can take us back to the OP at a level where we can understand race in the context of the study, which is not a social context.
Why is sex fun? By Jared Diamond is an attempt to understand the science behind sex. A large part of the book covers human relationship, to include male female attraction. Race is not a scientific factor mentioned in Mr. Diamond's research. I feel you and the other posters are trying to tie another topic to your OP. Think on this, sometimes our most benign actions can still cause harm.
If we are going to talk race and dating I don't believe there is a correlation scientifically.
I want to support your exploration of this subject, but you may be boxing your argument in due to the various responses. If you can take us back to the OP at a level where we can understand race in the context of the study, which is not a social context.
Why is sex fun? By Jared Diamond is an attempt to understand the science behind sex. A large part of the book covers human relationship, to include male female attraction. Race is not a scientific factor mentioned in Mr. Diamond's research. I feel you and the other posters are trying to tie another topic to your OP. Think on this, sometimes our most benign actions can still cause harm.
If we are going to talk race and dating I don't believe there is a correlation scientifically.
so you are saying that EVERY black american is culturally different from EVERY white american? What a load of horseshit. Most black Americans probably have more in common with most white Americans that they have differences. In fact, a black New York stockbroker is probably going to be more culturally similar to the white guy sitting at the desk next to him than a drug dealer from the projects who happens to be black, who in turn will have more in common with the white guy dealing on the next corner.
did I SAY that every black american is culturally different from every white american? yr jumping the gun there amigo. I said no such thing. And I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your comment.it was me that phrased it like that. Bad choice of words, i admit, but since Hazza knows me, he also knows what i meant. You see, Hazza doesn't look for problems where none exists. He doesn't cry racism simply because of a badly worded and quickly typed sentence. Perhaps thats why he gets on so well with so many different people from different backgrounds.
I also didn't cry racism simply because of a badly worded and quickly typed sentence. I said that I would be appalled. Lots of us say the stupid shit that rolls around in our empty brains without modifying it so it sounds a little unlike what we really think. I do it all the time.I'm happy that he doesn't look for problems where there are none, and I mean that with zero facetiousness. I think it's wonderful, I really do. What I think is unfair is to say that just because I don't have a problem with something, that no one has a problem, or should have one, or could have one.. It's incredibly narrow-minded.
shameful. and you're NOT white? No one thought of you as not-white because you're such a great guy eh? He might be an injun but he's as honest as a white man? nice (internet) pals you've got there.
If anyone said either of those things to me, I'd be mortified at their absolute cluelessness and insensitivity. Good going.
No, because they are my friends and because I know what they meant. I also don't shove my ethnicity down their throats at every opportunity. I prefer to be known as a person, than a colour. Possibly why I get along with people of all different backgrounds and races...If anyone said either of those things to me, I'd be mortified at their absolute cluelessness and insensitivity. Good going.
Un. Real.
Maybe you really SHOULD get out more... or live somewhere before you speak on things you clearly know nothing about. I can only speak about what happens in the U.S. But if Europe is a worthy topic, then so is the U.S. Each place has a similar number of people, and BOTH ARE HOME TO MANY, MANY DIFFERENT CULTURES.
One of the most amazing things about the United States is how diverse it is. I hear Germans all the time going on about how immigrants should assimilate to German culture or go back home. Luckily for us, you are more than welcome to come to the U.S. and retain all the beautiful, unique facets of your culture. There is no cookie-cutter mold for American culture, which is why we have managed to export so much of our film, television and music to the world. The differences in our people are so wide-spread that they are almost unendless, and obviously the rest of the world finds it interesting enough to pay attention to. (just not you)
Some of our cultures correlate almost exclusively with the race of the people who comprise it. You have to deal with that fact.
If you believe the only difference between a black american and a white american is skin color, again, I have to ask you if you're high.
On second thought--no, you're not high, you just haven't got the first fucking clue what you're on about.
So you're not actually talking about race anymore, you're talking about CULTURE. You can obviously not see the difference. The only thing that seperates a Black man and a white man before you add a different culture is the colour of his skin. Or are you suggesting that perhaps one race is smarter than another, or one has a greater propensity towards violence? Because if you are, then you're the racist...
Maybe you really SHOULD get out more... or live somewhere before you speak on things you clearly know nothing about. I can only speak about what happens in the U.S. But if Europe is a worthy topic, then so is the U.S. Each place has a similar number of people, and BOTH ARE HOME TO MANY, MANY DIFFERENT CULTURES.
One of the most amazing things about the United States is how diverse it is. I hear Germans all the time going on about how immigrants should assimilate to German culture or go back home. Luckily for us, you are more than welcome to come to the U.S. and retain all the beautiful, unique facets of your culture. There is no cookie-cutter mold for American culture, which is why we have managed to export so much of our film, television and music to the world. The differences in our people are so wide-spread that they are almost unendless, and obviously the rest of the world finds it interesting enough to pay attention to. (just not you)
Some of our cultures correlate almost exclusively with the race of the people who comprise it. You have to deal with that fact.
If you believe the only difference between a black american and a white american is skin color, again, I have to ask you if you're high.
On second thought--no, you're not high, you just haven't got the first fucking clue what you're on about.
Women on the other hand are more inclined to date within their own race, with black American women being the least likely to date outside their race.
So what is the point you're trying to make exactly? Look, I am certainly not arguing against the point that there are people out there who will deny themselves the chance to date a person of a different race because they are misinformed or indeed racist, but what exactly is it that you are raging against? Racism in general, or some kind of perception that the white propaganda machine is working overtime.
Hazza, I'm not the one who created the cultural differences between whites and blacks in America and neither is anyone in my or even my mother's generation, and you damn well know it.
I am about as much of a racist as the next person. Which means that yes--I, like most people, harbor unfair prejudices against others. I, unlike many people, am aware of it and try to gain new experiences to combat it. You're not the only one here who "gets along with people of many cultures"--do you think I do nothing but hang around Berlin with people of the exact same racial, social, and economic background as me? Get real.
If I'm not mistaken you are the one who brought up culture and race being mutually exclusive, and I meant only to refute that opinion.
I am about as much of a racist as the next person. Which means that yes--I, like most people, harbor unfair prejudices against others. I, unlike many people, am aware of it and try to gain new experiences to combat it. You're not the only one here who "gets along with people of many cultures"--do you think I do nothing but hang around Berlin with people of the exact same racial, social, and economic background as me? Get real.
If I'm not mistaken you are the one who brought up culture and race being mutually exclusive, and I meant only to refute that opinion.
So then the answer has nothing whatsoever to do with race and everything to do with the fact that people see different races as different cultures.
And the reason that most prefer to date "white" outside their own races (cultures) is that in the US, white people make up the majority and so the most visible group. So an Asian can recognise white culture more than, say, black culture and is therefore going to prefer to date someone from a culture he recognises better - so white as opposed to black.
There, we have the answer. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture.
The End...
And the reason that most prefer to date "white" outside their own races (cultures) is that in the US, white people make up the majority and so the most visible group. So an Asian can recognise white culture more than, say, black culture and is therefore going to prefer to date someone from a culture he recognises better - so white as opposed to black.
There, we have the answer. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture.
The End...
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