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Race and dating

Your thoughts on the elephant in the room

keepingtime
keepingtime, the fact that the USA abandoned slavery later than most other developed nations and within living memory still had Jim Crow segregation laws sits ill with your repeated attempts to suggest it is far more advanced than anywhere else on race. Canada and the UK for instance would both have better claims to laurels in the fight against racism.
My repeated attempts? I never suggested this and where have I repeated this suggestion. I just claimed that from a personal stand point that if my father's family stayed in their homeland that my father would probably not have made the advance in his life that he did. I just agreed that it was probably because of their move to the US that the family was able to advance.

I am sure that if my family lived in the in Canada or UK they might have had similar experiences. I never said that their life would have been different if it were only for the US, but the fact they were not in their homeland. In fact, I have family who did move to Canada and made similar strides in their lives, but no one posted this for me to comment upon. So, therefore I guess I did not make a similar comment. And my mother's family held dual citizenship with Canada and the US since her father grew up there and his father worked there and lived in both Canada and the US. They helped build the Canadian Pacific railroad.

My main point is that they as a family have overcome prejudices and that it is not easy to be biracial, but there are things in everyones life which they have to overcome and go forward.
Steven192
Just recently, I asked my British husband if Clive was British...oh no, he says, He's Welsh.

That's like asking about an American and saying, no, he's Texan. Isn't that a whole nutter story there?
So what if the answer was "No he's an Alaskan". Would that happen?
Punchbear
Oh, I am sorry to offend your high English. I was not aware I was writing to you, sir editor. Are you flint24, also? If you do not like my comments please do not read them. I was not commenting to your postings here on this thread.
Again, try English...
don_riina
to belittle race in dating and to say it's a non issue is not only naive but it shows your lack of world view,
I reckon I probably speak for quite alot of blokes when I say that if I am looking at a woman, I see hot, or not hot. I quite honestly don't see race. I see a hot black woman, and I think "mmm! hot!". I don't think "black", although I might say to a mate "check out that seriously smoking hot black bird over there", so he knows which one I am talking about.
Yeah, yeah, somebody can moan that dating should be about more than looks, but not only is that for another thread, it is horseshit. Dating is about attraction, which is down to looks. Personality? That might follow later, looks is the first thing. Fact.

So for me, race really is a complete non-issue when it comes to dating. I mean, if we wanna talk about being a bigot, then I'll put my hands up and say that I am well "racist", if that's the right word, towards Germans. I hate the krouts. Bastards. However, I've been with a krout bird for nigh on 16 years now, so when it comes to dating, I can very honestly, and demonstrably say that national or racial boundaries are not even of slight interest to me.
Bell the cat
My repeated attempts? I never suggested this and where have I repeated this suggestion.
you referred to America's 'highly developed sense of race' as if the USA was somehow better than everywhere else. If that is not what you meant then I am afraid that you expressed yourself so poorly that that is what came across.
Bell the cat
@don riina

same for me, but with blokes
flint24
I reckon I probably speak for quite alot of blokes when I say that if I am looking at a woman, I see hot, or not hot. I quite honestly don't see race. I see a hot black woman, and I think "mmm! hot!". I don't think "black", although I might say to a mate "check out that seriously smoking hot black bird over there", so he knows which one I am talking about.
Yeah, yeah, somebody can moan that dating should be about more than looks, but not only is that for another thread, it is horseshit. Dating is about attraction, which is down to looks. Personality? That might follow later, looks is the first thing. Fact.

So for me, race really is a complete non-issue when it comes to dating. I mean, if we wanna talk about being a bigot, then I'll put my hands up and say that I am well "racist", if that's the right word, towards Germans. I hate the krouts. Bastards. However, I've been with a krout bird for nigh on 16 years now, so when it comes to dating, I can very honestly, and demonstrably say that national or racial boundaries are not even of slight interest to me.
Read my OP, specifically the part about men statistically not having a problem with dating outside their race. It's the women that do.
Owain Glyndwr
and the point has already been made that for every (straight) man that dates outside his race there must be a woman who dates outside here race. And you still haven't been able to agree on a proper definition of race, so the whole argument becomes silly.
Hazza
Read my OP, specifically the part about men statistically not having a problem with dating outside their race. It's the women that do.
Unless you're mainly talking about gay relationships, if a man is prepared to date outside his race, then a woman must too...

EDIT: What OG said...
chocolatemouse
men don't care about race as much because they look at a potential partner for the short term, how hot, how good in bed etc. women think long term, will he make a good husband/father and that brings into play all the other factors mentioned such as earning ability, education level, values and so on. how the woman evaluates the criteria is often influenced by her upbringing and the stereotypes she was exposed to which brings in flints arguments about race or culture being an issue when dating.
leeza
eh? When were Italians ever 'segregated'? Certainly weren't in Britain as far as I know. Several friends of mine had either ma or pa italian (a large nuber of italians came to edinburgh in the early 20th century) and I do not remember that ever being an issue at all. What was an issue, probably more even that interracial marriages was the sectarian divide.
The segregation of Italians was pretty prolific in the early 20th century. My brother's father was Italian and endured quite a lot of prejudice during the 50s and 60s. But I guess it was a US phenomenon. And at the time, an Italian marrying a WASP (as my mother and brother's father did) was considered "inter-racial" although of course that isn't really the right term. But that is what the mindset was back then, at least in the States.

My kids have been called Mischlinge more times than I can count ... to the degree that we have agreed to only speak English sotto voce outside of the house to avoid trouble.
Dude, if that is true, you are seriously doing something wrong, or live in a far-right overpopulated ghetto. Your prejudice against Germans is so extreme as to be laughable.
keepingtime
you referred to America's 'highly developed sense of race' as if the USA was somehow better than everywhere else. If that is not what you meant then I am afraid that you expressed yourself so poorly that that is what came across.
I was merely quoting flint24 from the post above mine. I did not make the statement. I am sorry, but when I clicked on the the quote when I was typing my response to flint24 the correct quote would not appear. So, again I was commenting about the quote "highly developed sense of race" which was made by flint 24. Do you understand? If not I can not explain this further since you do not understand.

Whomever said that physical attraction is first and personality second is correct.
flint24
men don't care about race as much because they look at a potential partner for the short term, how hot, how good in bed etc. women think long term, will he make a good husband/father and that brings into play all the other factors mentioned such as earning ability, education level, values and so on. how the woman evaluates the criteria is often influenced by her upbringing and the stereotypes she was exposed to which brings in flints arguments about race or culture being an issue when dating.
Thank you.

OG and Hazza read the article and pay attention to what she said. All these other proxy arguments you guys want to start are kinda irrelevant.
Owain Glyndwr
All the article says is that women are a bunch of whores who define every attribute of a potential mate in dollars and cents, whether it be height or race and are willing to trade one for the other.

It doesn't say HOW they arrived at the dollars and cents, though.

Class journalism.

(ps. i noticed you jumped on the race issue and not the height issue. Aren't you as concerned about the discrimination that short people endure every day? And it is not like they can change their height either, is it?)
Owain Glyndwr
height traded for $$$$$$$?

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maybe if we talk about this, the discrimination will eventually stop!
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