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Race and dating

Your thoughts on the elephant in the room

Smilin' Eyes **
how much experience? but again, what if people have a relevant opinion (whether that's pro-interracial dating or against) but just haven't had the opportunity to date people of other races?
flint24
If they're going to close their minds to the subject and cry "Racism thread" when I'm trying to have a serious talk about race and dating then I don't wanna hear it. If they use their brains and open their minds to the many different experiences in race and dating, then let's hear it.
Pas
Quality. So on a discussion about the possibility of people being closed minded the original poster only wants the opinion of those who fall into his narrow demographics and , it seems, agree with him. Quality.

I'm reminded of the great Ali-G. Is it cos I is black?

Or it's somebody just taking the piss.
Owain Glyndwr
I'd appreciate it if only people with experience in dating outside their race post on my thread. Sorry to be so blunt.
sorry but you don't get to dictate you can or can't post. sorry to be so blunt.

Besides, the viewpoints of people who haven't are just as valid.
Owain Glyndwr
If they use their brains and open their minds to the many different experiences in race and dating, then let's hear it.
perhaps you could use your brain and open your mind too. People have different experiences than you. Listen. You may learn something.
TaniMew
Has anyone here ever read 'Namesake' (it was turned into a film recently but the film doesn't touch upon the interracial relationship the main character goes through very much). Basically it's a second-generation Indian guy dating an all-American New England girl, and there are a few passages and plotlines in there about the tension and mystery inherent in the two very different parenting styles and ideas of family that they both grew up with.

He marvels at how liberal her parents are with her, the lack of coercion and other things (don't have the book on me I'm afraid), and when a family member of his dies and he is performing the necessary rituals which she tries to join in, somehow he feels that as intrusive and blocks her out of it...

The marvelling at how she was raised really mirrored my thoughts on how my European boyfriend was raised. The parents seemingly did less, they were allowed out with no curfews (we were teenagers when we started dating), they weren't forced to study or pressured into anything, yet all the kids were hardworking, honest, not shooting up or being vandals. My boyfriend and I have had many fights because he sees my dad as overcontrolling, and treating me like a kid - and I agree to an extent and soemtimes resented the hell out of my dad for it, I feel that my boyfriend doesn't understand the Asian style of parenting and don't always appreciate him judging my dad and my culture.

Sort of a 'no one can pick on my sister except me' thing.
flint24
Quality. So on a discussion about the possibility of people being closed minded the original poster only wants the opinion of those who fall into his narrow demographics and , it seems, agree with him. Quality.

I'm reminded of the great Ali-G. Is it cos I is black?

Or it's somebody just taking the piss.
I'm entitled to my opinion too, and my opinion is that I'd like to see people with actual experience in the subject matter to post. Call it closed minded if you want. And Ali-G sucks Otherwise you've got a whole bunch of know-it-all's crapping up the topic.

sorry but you don't get to dictate you can or can't post. sorry to be so blunt.

Besides, the viewpoints of people who haven't are just as valid.
Nobody is saying you can't post here, I'm just saying I don't want you to post here. By all means do whatever you like, but first learn how to read and interpret!
Lavender Rain
Things have gotten WAY better in terms of opportunities, jobs, social harmony, respect and things like that amongst the races, but this thread was always about race and dating. Some people, whenever they hear someone talk about race, have an agenda and they keep repeating this mantra that "it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist" without ever shutting up for a moment and listening what's being said. After all, they know everything. All I presented to people out there were facts that this article presented, and raised some interesting questions from those facts. The agenda people turned this subject into all kinds of mess never actually answering my original questions, which was actually meant to weed out the people that didn't belong in this thread, i.e. people who don't regularly date outside their race. If some people would have actually read what I said first, perhaps they would have just moved on to another thread.
Weed out people who don't belong on the thread? Why initiate a thread topic and then think it should be exclusive to a certain group of people? On TT threads are open to anyone who wants to read them and comment. Furthermore, just because an individual is not involved in an interracial relationship doesn't mean they wouldn't have any thoughts to convey about this topic.

Now back to the "the elephant in the room" bit. This for me was one of the most disconcerting aspects of this thread. You narrow-mindedly assumed with interracial dating there is "an elephant in the room" which basically means people may have a problem with interracial dating and people are pretending there isn't one. Some ignorant and bigot people may still have, like I mentioned about my experience in downtown Chicago walking with my husband. However, interracial dating is for the most part a noncontentious issue, at least not here on TT as indicated by the responses on this thread. Your supposition there is "an elephant in the room" I believe is based on your own outdated views of racism and attitudes that have fortunately changes over the last century.
Pas
But LR. It's proven. He said so.

Can I turn this into a religious thread as well;-)
flint24
Weed out people who don't belong on the thread? Why initiate a thread topic and then think it should be exclusive to a certain group of people? On TT threads are open to anyone who wants to read them and comment. Furthermore, just because an individual is not involved in an interracial relationship doesn't mean they wouldn't have any thoughts to convey about this topic.

Now back to the "the elephant in the room" bit. This for me was one of the most disconcerting aspects of this thread. You narrow-mindedly assumed with interracial dating there is "an elephant in the room" which basically means people may have a problem with interracial dating and people are pretending there isn't one. Some ignorant and bigot people may still have, like I mentioned about my experience in downtown Chicago walking with my husband. However, interracial dating is for the most part a noncontentious issue, at least not here on TT as indicated by the responses on this thread. Your supposition there is "an elephant in the room" I believe is based on your own outdated views of racism and attitudes that have fortunately changes over the last century.
I've already talked about this issue. I'm not going to write it again. If you still think this is a non issue, just read what I said below please.

It really was the wrong topic for the wrong crowd. Since the first person that mentioned there is no issue with race and dating, I had a feeling that this was the possibly the wrong place to speak about this.

Funny I never hear black or brown people saying this is a country wide non issue, or even a world wide non issue, like some people here have.

Funny I usually hear black or brown or Asian people, who regularly date outside their race, map and outline the world and even a country in terms of what's "safe" for us and what's not, in regards to interracial dating.

Funny I more times than not hear stories of US servicemen in Korea or Bulgaria or Poland or the Philippines, black and brown servicemen, tell me even the whore houses regularly close their doors to them, telling them "bring back a white man."

Non issue my ass!!

I guess they were all just ignorant trolls?

Things have gotten WAY better in terms of opportunities, jobs, social harmony, respect and things like that amongst the races, but this thread was always about race and dating. Some people, whenever they hear someone talk about race, have an agenda and they keep repeating this mantra that "it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist" without ever shutting up for a moment and listening what's being said. After all, they know everything. All I presented to people out there were facts that this article presented, and raised some interesting questions from those facts. The agenda people turned this subject into all kinds of mess never actually answering my original questions, which was actually meant to weed out the people that didn't belong in this thread, i.e. people who don't regularly date outside their race. If some people would have actually read what I said first, perhaps they would have just moved on to another thread.
Pas
Hazza mate. Still think this one's not a WUM?
Smilin' Eyes **
I'm sure others think race is an issue (whether for themselves or their family or friends etc) but there are others like me who think it's no issue at all. I said I think there's no elephant in the room, as did others, but I meant that for me there is no elephant - not that there is no elephant for others. OK enough about elephants... My point is, I am open to the ''many different experiences'' people have etc. and maybe it's seemed to you like that wasn't the case. You may have misunderstood others in the same way.
It seems you only want input from people who think there is an elephant (great we're back to this...) That makes for one seriously biased thread and will only confirm your belief about the existence of said elephant. The majority opinion seems to be that race is not an issue for TTers. Why not be happy with that? That's a good thing isn't it?
Lavender Rain
I've already talked about this issue. I'm not going to write it again. If you still think this is a non issue, just read what I said below please.
I recall from your first thread you said you wanted to discuss this issue from a scientific perspective do you have any data to back up what you said about this? Furthermore, there has been nothing, absolutely nothing, you or anyone else, for that matter, has shared that was "scientific".
flint24
I'm sure others think race is an issue (whether for themselves or their family or friends etc) but there are others like me who think it's no issue at all. I said I think there's no elephant in the room, as did others, but I meant that for me there is no elephant - not that there is no elephant for others. OK enough about elephants... My point is, I am open to the ''many different experiences'' people have etc. and maybe it's seemed to you like that wasn't the case. You may have misunderstood others in the same way.
It seems you only want input from people who think there is an elephant (great we're back to this...) That makes for one seriously biased thread and will only confirm your belief about the existence of said elephant. The majority opinion seems to be that race is not an issue for TTers. Why not be happy with that? That's a good thing isn't it?
Stop putting words in my mouth and stop trying to spread this idea that I only want to hear a certain "side."

I don't know how many times I have to say it, I'm interested in people with experience in the subject matter!!
Owain Glyndwr
flint is not looking for debate or opinions. He is only looking for confirmation of this own views.
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