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German fossil unveiled as Darwin's missing link

47m year old lemur disproves what the Bible says

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At a news conference in the American Museum of Natural History in New York, presented by the city's mayor. Scientists today unveiled a 47 million year old German fossil which they believe is Darwin's 'Missing Link' between apes and man. The fossil was dug up 25 years ago in the Messel Pit crater 35 kms south east of Frankurt am Main by an amateur fossil hunter.

She was kept on a German collector's wall for over 20 years with no one realising her importance and has been being studied in secret for two years by a team in Norway led by Professor Jorn Hurum, of Norway's National History Museum.

Today 1ft 9inch tall Ida was unveiled to the world.

Or is she just another Lemur monkey? Not everyone is so delighted with the claim.
Mapleleafdude
Ida has been a member on TT for a while so this is nothing new.
The Local
The Local: Skeleton found in Germany believed to be 'missing link'

Ida had suffered a badly broken wrist and that this might have been her undoing.

The theory is that while drinking from the Messel lake she was overcome by carbon dioxide fumes and fell in.
eurovol
Ida'no, looks pretty cool.
jennieerin73
Sure this isn't a hoax?
Figman1
If you wants to think that this could be your mom' then be it, but I know where I come from!!! GOD!!
clickety6
The theory is that while drinking from the Messel lake she was overcome by carbon dioxide fumes and fell in.
Could be true.
I know I've often been overcome by the fumes from the Großer Woog although I wasn't trying to drink the water...
dolfan
Im certain it isnt my mother, my mom is far younger.
horseshoe7
From the Scientists hail stunning fossil (BBC News)

The beautifully preserved remains of a 47-million-year-old, lemur-like creature have been unveiled in the US. The preservation is so good, it is possible to see the outline of its fur and even traces of its last meal. The fossil, nicknamed Ida, is claimed to be a "missing link" between today's higher primates - monkeys, apes and humans - and more distant relatives. But some independent experts, awaiting an opportunity to see the new fossil, are sceptical of the claim. And they have been critical of the hype surrounding the presentation of Ida.
It's a boring wednesday, so why not try to stir up the religious folk who think the world began 4000 years ago, and start to shift around in their seats when forced to confront such cognitive dissonance like events such as these.

How do people with faith deal with such stories? Dismiss them? Incorporate them into a working theory? Accept that God's 7 days of creation weren't explicitly "days" as we have come to know them?

I'm interested. I used to go to church but I just found too many inconsistencies to carry on with it, despite some of the moral teachings being good.

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llees
The way I understand it, one explanation is that God liberally sprinkles these fossils around as a test of faith - if you believe in the fossils you fail as a Christian, and when the Rapture comes you'll be left staring dolefully up at all the airborne Chosen Ones along with the rest of the sinners.
xargon
If you wants to think that this could be your mom' then be it,
This has to be the stupidest comment I have heard in a while now. Please do not breed.
Hazza
Yep - llees got it in one.

God apparently doesn't like sceptics...
James_Runner
Makes me wonder how many other treasures of science, archaeology, art and literature (e.g., manuscripts) are in private hands and unknown to scholars or the general public.
Keydeck
We're not allowed use that word anymore, Hazza. It's "Americans".
parnell
The way I understand it, one explanation is that God liberally sprinkles these fossils around as a test of faith - if you believe in the fossils you fail as a Christian, and when the Rapture comes you'll be left staring dolefully up at all the airborne Chosen Ones along with the rest of the sinners.
not Catholics :
Evolution and the Roman Catholic Church (Wikipedia)

In fact, the International Theological Commission in a July 2004 statement endorsed by Cardinal Ratzinger, then president of the Commission and head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, now Pope Benedict XVI, includes this paragraph:
According to the widely accepted scientific account, the universe erupted 15 billion years ago in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' and has been expanding and cooling ever since. Later there gradually emerged the conditions necessary for the formation of atoms, still later the condensation of galaxies and stars, and about 10 billion years later the formation of planets. In our own solar system and on earth (formed about 4.5 billion years ago), the conditions have been favorable to the emergence of life. While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life is to be explained, there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5 - 4 billion years ago. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution.[10]
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