Cottaging - does this still really happen?

strange topic i know, but after a large debate over lunch with colleagues, i can not believe this thing still happens or that with all the diseases flying around anybody would consider it. i was told it still happens in Scheidplatz. maybe i just being my normal naive self (i do remember asking what pole dancing was once) but isn't this all just a modern myth, surely the police would have stamped down on any such customs.

yours
bemused of gräfelfing.

I heard that Kolumbusplatz U-Bahn was a big cottage - is it still true?
This was a few years ago...

OK, stupid American here -

What's "cottaging"?

So what's cottage cheese then? Eeeewwww!!! [img]http://dream.impact.free.fr/Images/Smiley/disgusted.gif[/img]

See in Canada this means something else entirely...like having a nice home on a lake somewhere.

What is it in this context?

More like Fraunhofer U-Bahn I'd say. Definitely a lot of "action" there!

explanation called for :-)

cottaging

noun {U} UK SLANG

sexual activity in a public toilet between men who are not involved in a lasting relationship with each other

Kinda like "I want your sex".

"Cottaging" in the States is what the Rockefellers used to do in Newport, R.I. during the summer and what wealthy New Yorkers do in the Hamptons each summer now.

50,000 saddo fcukin bayern fans were hanging around the urinals last night lookin for a bit of the action.

still at least it's better than doing a mexican wave.

That is funny...

From www.sentex.net/~tntcomm/ontario.htm

I'd say google it but you might not want to do that at work.
Now obviously it isn't my thing (not being a gay male) but yes they do still exist. The amount of risk is a personal choice, as it is with any sexual contact, whether safe sex is practised or not is up to those involved. Yes there are also establishments in this city which have "dark rooms" which serve the same purpose. As does a particular sauna. Apparently. Such establishments are easily found but do not admit women as a rule.
And there is frankly no difference between that and a hetero swingers' club.
None at all.
Horses for courses.

See that is what I meant...very different meaning in the Great White North. Now I shall never think of it the same...

yeah, scheidplatz toilets is a good place to meet up, then some sneak into the bordering luitpoldpark for some privacy. bf & i used to jog through there and have seen many o' used condoms and "suspcious" couples.

I used to work at a public park that was featured in a gay magazine as a popular spot for this. There were regulars, actually, and their usual reason for meeting there was so their wives wouldn't find out.

actually, thinking about it, we probably shouldn't be posting the locations, really...
might be used for unscrupulous purposes by nasty homophobes or something

Great...exactly where we are moving in 4 days

so they do exist, or is it myth. are the dodgyy couples realy dody or only you think they are.? oh well horses for courses. where the hell did the name come from?

Is that why cottage industries are so popular?

well, we hadn't caught any inflagrati, you know, but when you see two guys come out of the bushes, then you just assume. but during the day, the park is great for familes, playing soccer, etc. we often jogged right around dusk. once we lost our frisbee and went hunting for it, and found a condom graveyard.

otherwise you never hear of any trouble. it's a nice park.

@ Blimeygirl

What?? Your moving to the Scheidplatz toilets??

I am in Kolumbusplatz when I am in Munich and never noticed anything like that.

a german mate of mine's cousin is a local copper and told me that he'd basically been up to Scheidplatz bogs and caught a group of men standing around in a circle with their tackle poised .. so apparently it does go on and the police do drop in there now and again ..

@turnip

We thought the rent was a good price!

as long as it was the rent, and not the rent boys who were a good price.

good to se every body else is bemused with presumptions, stories from third parties etc. i shall reamin bemused and never hang around kolumbusplazt after sunset

Some pretty sensible replies so I shan't add my senf.

It happens in EVERY city to a certain extent.

For those of you who speak that bastardised Western English from over the Atlantic, I believe the North American name is "tearooms".

Where you get crumpet?

Gideon ..the English language has produced some really class terminology in this area over the years like gloryholing, teabagging, wolfbagging, roman showers, creampies and so on but this place still is cutting edge: Profanisaurus

Go to Feldmochinger See and up in the treelines above the FKK platz, you will find lots of action going on. Same is true along the Isar north of Englisher Garten. There is also a parkplatz in Garching and near Chiemsee. Just look up sex treffen or parkplatz sex and find all the places you want.
References courtesy of Lilo Wanders show.

Michael Hutchence once sang (in the INXS song "Shine like it does") "if you're looking, you will find it".
Well he's bloody right in this case.
eurovol, Treffpunkt Parkplatz tends to be more heterosexual than homosexual so more aligned to the UK term "dogging" (like I know, I don't even have a car. Or a dog for that matter).

@eurovol: the Garching parkplatz (if I'm thinking of the same spot): I always wondered who the hell would want to park there...

ok i do now believe that this world is stranger than it was 24 hours ago. can somebody close this thread, it saddens my belief in human nature. rammel rammel rammel.
oh yes, we discussed this again today at lunch. i've now officialy been outed as a missionary-position-only-while-wearing-socks old fart.

Didn't George Michael get caught doing it a few years back?

I can well believe cottaging is rife at Kolumbusplatz. I once popped down Kolumbusplatz U-Bahn toilets for a quick piss only to be confronted by some bloke standing at the urinal having a wank. I'm not talking a subtle little tug, I mean a real armbreaker.

I went outside and pissed in the bushes.

By the way, what's white and slides down a public toilet door?

George Michael's latest release

???

Why does it sadden your belief in human nature?

Cottaging is not my cup of tea but it is one way in which some people choose to have sex.
It is also one of the only ways for some men to have the sex they want.

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in reply, i'm not judging, it just seems so degrading, i'm not saying evil or anything, but you've got to admit to go all through the dangers of being arrested, contracting a pretty nasty cold, and everything, just for 0.5 seconds of orgasm. seems kind of sad to me.

Men go cottaging to have sex with other men for a number of reasons.

Mostly I'd wager, these men DON'T identify as "gay". There is a catagory in sexual health work for them: Men who have sex with men. (MSM)
Sometimes single men but totally outside of the gay scene but going cottaging to satisfy their sexual urges.
VERY often, ostensibly heterosexual men with wives and children. This explains the fact that many of the cottages have their
businest periods during the rush hour. MSM going into the cottage for a quick one before getting the U-Bahn home to perfect family home.

Sometimes the men who cottage are too young, too "old" or too "ugly" to find sexual partners on the gay scene.

In smaller towns and country areas where there is no gay scene it might be the only way to find other men for sex.

And sometimes (but I suspect a minority) of those involved in cottaging do it for the pure fun, adventure, the thrill of having sex with strangers in a public place.

These issues apply to a certain extent to sex in public parks too but there are probably more men who DO identify as gay having sex in public parks than going cottaging. Sex in public parks is seen as more socially acceptable amongst gay men than cottaging.

It's not my thing, but the fact is, it happens.

AFAIK, all men's toilets on the U-bahn contain condom vending machines.
I personally think that the "outreach" work on sexual health issues has to be improved in this area.

Also education amongst the men doing these activities to leave the place clean behind themselves.
There's been a big crackdown on a childrens playground in central Munich that was beig used VERY LATE AT NIGHT for men to have sex.
"Dual use" might have been possible, but not when the bloody selfish men in there at night are leaving used condoms lying around where children will be playing next day.

Incidently Klappe (Flap) is the German slang for a cottage cos of the way the door always go open and closed.

thats how we got into the conversation at work, we were joking about my dark side as a macho hetro married man... anyone for a blow job?

I think we've only met the once so I couldn't possibly be so forward!

But seriously , your colleagues do seem to have an understanding of the situation.

Many places have been named and I'm not going to name any more or comment on the truth or otherwise of those named. Except Scheidplatz. Pretty dangerous after dark to go cottaging or cruising in the park.

... mmm but now i'm wondering how they knew all about this as they're all straight ...

Show this be modded to "Services Offered", "Private Services Offered" or "Items for free"?

...or so they claim.

Some people do have an insight into "hidden worlds" even though they are not part of them.

It is interesting how many things go on in society in kind of sub-cultures and stuff that people just don't know about.

What's wrong with having sex in a park, field or on the beach?

Now, as for having sex in the toilettes. EEEWWWWW!!!

Taken from the Viz Profanisaurus:


Somewhat fitting to this thread.