Plane Girl
Feb 21 2005, 12:49 pm
Hey guys! As most of u already know i run a new in town group spereate from Toytown and am now thinking of having a once a month newbie meetup for Toytown.
It was an idea that Tuesday drinks would be a good night, however for some people they dont like to drink on week days. Should I try theis on Tuesday and see the result or should i try to make it like the second sat night of every month. What do you all think?
SleeplessInMunich
Feb 21 2005, 12:55 pm
A Saturday night definitely. My first TT event was a few weeks ago, at the drinks/meet-up in Gunther Murphys and that went down really well.
I wouldn't have gone if it had been a Tuesday because I just have to get up too early the next morning.
simpleboy
Feb 21 2005, 3:21 pm
Hi There,
I am a newbie and definately would like to make a few friends. If there is an event on Saturday (Especially drinking..), count me in.
Regards,
Simpleboy.
Ravski
Feb 21 2005, 3:24 pm
I am not sure what difference it makes weather your new or not. Am I assuming the existing TTers bite.
Plane Girl
Feb 21 2005, 4:59 pm
Existing TT'ers know that they don't bite, but newbies don't know that. If a meetup has a title which explictly states 'for newbies' then they will feel reassured and more inclined to attend
Jeeves
Feb 21 2005, 5:04 pm
Interesting logic, Plane Girl. But then they'll only get to know other newbies and still think that older members bite...
Katrina
Feb 21 2005, 5:04 pm
Tuesdays had an almost sacred status because of the
Tuesday drinks at a local bar or beer garden (and yeah I know about the
Neuhausen Night Out hijack). If you wanted to use Tuesdays, you might want to create a sort of "Stammtisch/Meet & Greet/Welcoming Committee" sign on a separate (but nearby) table instead and do this, say, once a month? Otherwise Saturdays may suit better? Just my ideas (from an oldie).
pootle
Feb 21 2005, 5:13 pm
Ahh as an old hack its good to go meet some newbies, get old and miserable and talk about what its like in my old days. Dont really care where and when that happens, can turn up old and smelly anywhere...
;p
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Plane Girl
Feb 21 2005, 5:14 pm
the newbies night out isnt designed for ONLY newbies to come... its a night where they know their will be several other new people there as well as exisiting TTers as why it would be a night for everyone to come out...but with a before hand knowledge that their will be in increase of new people.
I know it was rough for me to go to the first one cause i didnt know anyone and thwy were all exsisting TTers that knew one another and spent the whole night talking to themselves...
nilpferd
Feb 21 2005, 5:16 pm
QUOTE
talking to themselves
first sign of madness that is
Jeeves
Feb 21 2005, 5:17 pm
Fair enough, I was just being unnecessarily pedantic

The funny thing is that we really do bite.
Actually I think it's a very good idea, and also at a weekend because that's not just when people can go out seriously but also when new kids in town have holes in their calendars.
Plane Girl
Feb 21 2005, 5:19 pm
great thanks for your opinions.. have now decided to make it on a weekend...now alls i have to decide on is when! cheers guys!
Plane Girl
Feb 21 2005, 5:19 pm

@nipferd... yes i thought that was stange too BUT
Eric the Hamster
Feb 21 2005, 5:28 pm
I think most (when working normal offfice ours) people prefer to go out for drinks on weekends arther than mid week. I think newbies nights are a good idea but i have noticed on a couple of outings the newbies and regulars were not mingling much.
I think its also difficult as you have different type of newbies, some are new to munich, some have been here years and are just new to TT and sometimes they want different things (Like being called new to TT rather than newbies - just a comment i heard once).
It is hard with the numbers now going out to some Toytown events to make newbies welcome, for us to notice a newbie wanting to say hello for the first time and for them to distinguish who TT are or to inturrupt conversation to say hello. So a newbie or new to Toytown night with a few regulars is a def a good thing.
one other thing, do these meets always have to involve going to a bar? How about a newbie meet for food, i think less people have problems doing this mid week.
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 5:34 pm
I agree, I think dinner meets with 15 people max would be nice, as you really get to know people... then go to a bar later to meet the crowd
CAVEAT: like Eric says, sometimes we've really made an effort with newbies who didn't even ask us where we come from... i.e. no effort whatsoever. Would be really annoying to go to dinner, pay for it, and be bored silly trying to force conversation with some morose, anti-social being who joined TT thinking it's a trainspotting club...
But I'm only ranting, 99.9% join to meet people and appreciate that we all have to try hard at first.
Anyway, you just got my PM PlaneGirl... you wanted a name for it which makes it clear both newbies and old farts are welcome... I would call it "monthly social to welcome new members" or something like that...
Showem
Feb 21 2005, 5:35 pm
Although I agree always meeting in a bar tends to get a bit same-ish, it has one great advantage of being able to mingle. That way you can meet many people, not just those sitting near you.
As for there being separate groups of those who know each other and those who don't, here is one area where the GEA does things well at their Stammtisch. They have someone who is there specifically to welcome newcomers, talk to them a bit and then introduce them to a few others. If someone (Plane Girl?) plus a few others were willing to greet newbies rather than just hang out with their pals (not saying you do that, just as an active welcoming act), new people would be made to feel much more welcome.
Plane Girl
Feb 21 2005, 5:43 pm
I agree with you all!! So after this one I think it would be nice to start maybe at like lets say 6:30 for dinner than go out for drinks! Great ideas!
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 5:47 pm
yep. And maybe attach a standard info to the top of your thread, like the one I wrote for TT Tuesday which EditorBob has now added permanently... giving people tips on who we are, who "suits us", how to meet, and tips 'n' tricks. Like I always say newbies should PM someone who is going to an event, and ask to meet them or have their mobile number. Worked well for me.
I agree with Showem, one reason I support the Twisted Bavarian (and also the Arc, around the bar) is because it is fairly quiet and spacious, and easy to mingle. But if people want to have a more deep-and-meaningful meet-up, dinner is good.
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 5:48 pm
When do you progress from being a newbie? There should be an intermediate stage for newbies that have made total arses of themselves.
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 5:49 pm
well apparently all TT members are virgins, so it has nothing to do with "That" kind of experience
(but seriously, I think there's a rule like you've posted 100 times)... for social events, a "newbie" is just someone who is coming out with us for the first time or so, and is new to us so needs to be welcomed and encouraged (as opposed to old farts, who are allowed to be ridiculed and abused at will!)

EDIT:
QUOTE
There should be an intermediate stage for newbies that have made total arses of themselves.
er... I'm afraid you have already deserved your honorary "old fart" membership, after your antics...
Eric the Hamster
Feb 21 2005, 5:50 pm
when you have passed the initiation!

- when you know (and get on with)

enough people to mingle on your own!
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 5:51 pm
Can I just not remember initiation or have I actually not been to one?

Was Burns night initiation or a self-initiation
Eric the Hamster
Feb 21 2005, 5:54 pm
Was joking about initiation (don't want to scare newbies), i know you don't remember it but how about you moonying on the u-bahn station on the way to the club on one of your first nights?
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 5:54 pm
I still don't believe this happened!
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 5:55 pm
that was the "antics" I was talking about, go get 'im, Eric!

BUT... seeing as you didn't do it properly last time, you're expected to go the Full Monty on the hamster's birthday...
*runs home to collect crowd barriers and smelling salts to support younger TT wenches in their moment of lust*
Eric the Hamster
Feb 21 2005, 5:57 pm
QUOTE (Schotte @ Feb 21 2005, 05:54 PM)
I still don't believe this happened!
how much of the night do you remember?
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 5:58 pm
actually a fair bit of that night.
EDIT: actually not much.
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 5:58 pm
EDIT: how much of ANY night do you think he remembers?!
*suspects a large amount of selective amnesia is being employed...*
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 6:00 pm
QUOTE (JB @ Feb 21 2005, 05:58 PM)
*suspects a large amount of selective amnesia is being employed...*
its obviously not that selective if im worrying about why i would want to forget something... (does this sentence make sense?)
Jimbo
Feb 21 2005, 6:01 pm
QUOTE
When do you progress from being a newbie?
When you have 3 Lions' mobile number.
You're a veteran like me when you have BOTH his mobiles and his home number.
EDIT: Oh, and as for new member meetings - good idea. My first TT event was a
curry night, but I was lucky enough to have met Magoo beforehand, and so I could walk in with somebody else and so not feel an utter plank. Personally I think it's a good idea - it would be a bit easier to be introduced to the TT group if you already knew one or two other people - it's a big group these days and it can be quite intimidating I should think - some people, however, are perfectly fine just heading out - especially if they have a contact name. Foxy came along to a group meeting all on her own, but knew to look for me and had my number...the rest, as they say, is history...
gideon
Feb 21 2005, 6:04 pm
erm, if they are all newbies how will they recognise each other? at least with oldies there is a familiar face or you hear a couple of people gabbing away in enlivened english.
i have 3lions work number, home number, mobile number and know his ski size, what am i then?
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 6:06 pm
will spag bol without onions be rubbish? i can't be bothered going back to the shop.
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 6:06 pm
@ Gideon: a whore.
@ schotte: depends. If cooking for lady, go shopping. If cooking for self, go to McD's

oh and @ Gideon and jimbo, are you supposed to be warning all the TT girls that 3 lions has a spare Handy for anti-wench security?!
Ravski
Feb 21 2005, 6:08 pm
It is an interesting concept to initiate new people beforehand. Its like starting a college or job etc, its about welcoming newbies and making them comfortable.
When I started a new job here I was welcomed by several people who recently started and those who have been here a while. I liked the blend of both.
When I attended my first Toytown event I just started to speak to whoever and it was great. The existing TTers were more than happy to speak to me.
@PlaneGirl : Its a good idea but it would not make any difference if I attended a newbie event or not. Somestime you have to chuck yourselves in the deep end and swim. We are not babies and should be able to handle ourselves. Especially with the support of existing TTers:)
Jimbo
Feb 21 2005, 6:08 pm
QUOTE
i have 3lions work number, home number, mobile number and know his ski size, what am i then?
Gay?
gideon
Feb 21 2005, 6:08 pm
QUOTE (JB @ Feb 21 2005, 06:06 PM)
phew and there was me worried that i was a slag.
and jimbo i said SKI size, not what you were thinking you chav.
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 6:10 pm
dont make me start a poll people.
should i go to the shop for onions or not!!!???

oh f*&^% ive forgotten the sauce anyway.
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 6:11 pm
yes. Or if you forgot the sauce, like I said, Ronald is ready and waiting... sound slike a safer option
but before you do, please explain to Ravski how much he has misundersttod TT to say this
QUOTE
We are not babies and should be able to handle ourselves
my theory... we've mastered the "handling" bit...but the rest...
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 6:12 pm
i can't handle myself. i can't. and your not bloody answering my PM!!!
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 6:14 pm
You want me to answer it publicly?!
Schotte
Feb 21 2005, 6:15 pm
your BSing me and I refuse to rise to it.
din dins for me. laters.
Jeeves
Feb 21 2005, 6:15 pm
Another 2c from me:
"newbies" are all different just like real people are. Some prefer curries, some a barbecue (okay, maybe not in February), some a games evening, some a day trip, some just getting rat-arsed. So if we're talking a regular event then drinkies at a bar seems to be the lowest common denominator and provide the best chance for people to mingle. It doesn't stop anyone going to any other event first if they like.
Jimbo
Feb 21 2005, 6:22 pm
Jeeves, as usual, has sage comments - I would say drinks at a bar that does do food if you're so inclined...
JoolyBooly
Feb 21 2005, 6:26 pm
and barbies in summer, as long as VDB isn't in charge of the directions..
Blimeygirl
Feb 21 2005, 7:17 pm
Tip from me...not sure what I qualify as (best get on scrounging up 3 Lion's number):
Drinks at a bar/pub/whatever is fine as long as the place is quiet-ish. As an example a 'newbie' came along to Kilian's on Friday...which is a good fun place with a good crowd (okay maybe not on that particular Friday

) but trying to even introduce ourselves was near impossible. Many a 'Sorry?' and a 'What?' across the table...it is hard to get to know someone and make them feel welcome in that case...it was a bit frustrating.
Obviously most places play music...and that is great...but there are places which are more conducive to a general meet-up chatty event. A restaurant is hard for mingling but does take some of the pressure off while you stuff your face
I think a night for people who know they are going to be meeting other new people is a good idea. Gives them an opportunity to get to know some new people as well as people who have already been posting a while and might have similar interests.
captpopular
Feb 23 2005, 5:08 pm
I'm also new here, just moved into my room last tuesday and I would like to meet some people. This thread seemed to be a good place to post an introduction of sorts so here goes.
My name is tom, I'm from providence, ri and i am here until august doing an internship with siemens.
lg
hiya CaptP. welcome. FYI there's an official
Introduce Yourself to TT Thread.
arshoo
Feb 23 2005, 5:35 pm
hi this seems like a good thread, a nice opportunity to meet up with all ye. as for myself, my name is Raj, i am presently working with siemens shall be here for a loooong time i think.
ciao
PS - any TT'rs up for squash? would like to start playing the game here. any recos about the place, charges etc?
Jaybird
Feb 23 2005, 11:36 pm
I'm also relatively new to Munich, been here a few months. My name is Jay and I come from Madison, Wisconsin...home of the BADGERS

I'm here in Munich until I get tired of this place and then I'm going to drag my lady back to states, where there decent jobs to be found. However in the meantime, I look forward to meeting some Toytowners and drinking lots of Augustieners.
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