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The Mac Worship Thread

Because PCs are, like, totally lame, dudes

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Johnny English
Bullshit!!!, Almost every Apple product put out in the last 2years has overheating issues..
Here's a quick google search that found 39,100 posts about "Macbook Pro Overheating", that were posted with-in the last year.
Even if 3 quarters of those could be disregarded, that's still over 9500 users complaining about Macs overheating. It might be a small %
of the overall Userbase but that's still a large enough number to indicate a general design flaw.
Oh boy that is just comedy gold. Must rate as the lamest piece of "evidence" yet.

Obviously I just amended for my own version randomly using "Dell Laptop Overheat" (DK's search used the word "overheat" actually so the poor bugger can't even quote himself accurately). Also amended
to only produce results from the past 12 months:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=off

Bingo. 97,500 results. Thus making Dell exactly 2.49 times more liable to overheat. FACT.

* Just to clarify I am taking the piss - I do not consider the results anything other than utter cock. Although DK does actually talk more cock than a cartload of hens.
Johnny English
Just for fun you can also try with "Sony Laptop overheat" or "HP Laptop overheat". The boy is off his trolley and on a mental mission to nowhere.
ian
Oh no! I just got 30,800 hits from "my bum overheat" What can I do about it? Is it going to blow?
Johnny English
If you search "Dark Knight is being a knob" you only get 67,900 results so I reckon google is busted.
Darkknight
ALL Electronic devices overheat at some point or another. My point is that Apple gear is not immune to these problems.
Apple products are not the super, greatest thing in the computer world since the Mouse as the fan boys think they are.

Including iPods I suppose?
You were saying...
BBC NEWS | Business | Apple admits iPod Nano 'overheat'
ipod overheat - Mac Forums
macosxhints.com - Cooling an overheating iPod

and constant upgrading of graphics cards, drivers etc, yet you persist in claiming black is white.
Now who's being a bullshit spouting "mentalist." Even if it were true, atleast with a Non Apple computer you have a wide choice
of Graphics cards to upgrade to.. With Macbooks you have what 3 choices depending on macbook model. All either under
powered, over priced or both. On the Desktop side a good graphics card costs 200% more than the same hardware for a
non apple Computer. And in order to even use any upgrade or add-in VGA card you must pony up the 3k+ USD/EUR
and buy a Mac Pro. Only then do you get the chance to pay even more money for something standard PC users pay
a hell of a lot less for..

But hey, don't just take my word for it, have a look at the apple store yourself. The best upgrade card you can get for the Mac pro
(The only Mac that takes add-on cards) is the Nvidia GT120/512MB for 150 USD (Single Card Option) which is a BIOS reflashed
version of the 9500GT. This card is over a year old, and sells for an avg. price of $50-$60, New.. The only difference between
the MAC and PC version of this card is the BIOS, and a $90-$100 mark-up in price.

You fanboys can keep your POS Apple Gear. I'll Build my own Computer for less costs that will run circles around anything
Apple has on the market. I'll even install OSX on it just to piss you people off.. You don't have to spend all the extra money
on Apple gear just to run OSX. Instead, just give it to me
Chocky
I searched 'Darkknight is an ultra maroon' and got 130 hits.
On the subject of MP3 players, how about the total pile of bumfuckery that is the Zune (made by Microsoft).
I luuurve my Macbook, because it does what a computer is supposed to.
RS500Guy
...I'll Build my own Computer for less costs that will run circles around anything Apple has on the market. I'll even install OSX on it just to piss you people off.. You don't have to spend all the extra money on Apple gear just to run OSX...
My Mac Pro has a pair of 45nm Nehalem-based Xeon 5500 processors (that's 8 cores if you're counting) and 16GB of 1,066-MHz DDR3 ECC memory.

Start building, then running. I like circles.

Oh, and when OS X 10.6 hits the shelves (for $29 BTW) the system will see major parallel processing and memory management improvements with the move to a 100% 64-bit OS paired and tuned to the Apple hardware.
Johnny English
"Darkknight is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing"

JE. 2009.
horseshoe7
Darkknight's just killing his credibility by continuing to argue so stubbornly. If he were to save face, he could just say:

Yes, OSX is a slick OS, but I'm a veteran Windows user and it suits my needs perfectly.

Instead, he brings up very weak points. Excellent hardware means nothing if the OS doesn't know what to do with it, for example.

There is a fundamental difference in user paradigm, who chooses the PC and who chooses the mac. Personally, if you yourself are not the most technically able person in the world, buy a Mac. Fewer headaches, less to know. It just works, works reliably and applications are integrated better with one another.

Macs tend to just run more efficiently / smoothly because the OS was designed to run on a very well defined hardware spec. Windows is designed to run on lego - meaning any hardware combination.

Whatever. Darkknight, stick with your Windows love just because your psyche demands you be counter-culture. I've been a windows user since Windows 3.1. It didn't take long for me to prefer my Mac.
Johnny English
He keeps wittering on about price. The price of a graphics card. The price of a comparable laptop. Adverts focused on price.

My Macbook Pro cost about €3,000 inc taxes (we get the VAT back) with warranty, bag, and extra gubbins 3 years ago and it is still going strong. Even if I threw it in the bin now, it would have cost about €70 a month nett to the company. I spent more than that on Google adwords this morning. Plus it is tax deductible so costs me about €30 a month in my pocket.

If I had purchased a Dell, even for half the price, I would only have saved maybe €30 a month. Compared to other company costs (staff, rent, rates, taxes etc) a Mac laptop is cheap as chips, especially considering it is the #1 tool that actually keeps me working all day long.

If everything was purely about price we would all drive Skodas.
Krieg
Darkknight's just killing his credibility by continuing to argue so stubbornly.
In a matter of hours he went from saying he is a super expert because of his zillion of experience to make a fool of himself showing clearly he has no idea how filenames are handled in a unix-like system. And like always he just changed the subject and pretended nothing happened.

If you do not know something simple like that you probably do not know how file systems work, or more complicated stuff.

I know only real experienced users will see how funny/ridiculous that is and most of the TTers will not realize it, but at least it made me smile.

Probably the 28 years of experience DK has has been as a marketing guy or someone not really THAT technical but with some knowledge from the advanced user point of view and he likes to pretend he is a big boy.

Personally, if you yourself are not the most technically able person in the world, buy a Mac. Fewer headaches, less to know. It just works, works reliably and applications are integrated better with one another.
The cool thing is that advance users can as well enjoy a Mac because at the end of the day it is just a unix system, if you want you can just go to the command line or install tons of software from the open source community.
Darkknight
On the subject of MP3 players, how about the total pile of bumfuckery that is the Zune
You say that as if the ipod and zune are the only MP3 players on the market. They arn't and there are ones out
there which are much better and cheaper than both the ipod and the Zune.

My Mac Pro has a pair of 45nm Nehalem-based Xeon 5500 processors (that's 8 cores if you're counting) and 16GB of 1,066-MHz DDR3 ECC memory.
Start building, then running. I like circles. Oh, and when OS X 10.6 hits the shelves (for $29 BTW) the system will see major parallel processing and memory management improvements
Already have priced out a computer based on the 2x2.6Ghz mac pro. Same CPU, Same Memory, Same Graphics card, Same HD's.
For 2x2.26, and 16GB Ram and everything else standard, Apple Wants $3799. My system costs $3000 and that includes a $29 copy of Snow leopard.
So right there there's a savings of $800. All my systems parts are guaranteed for 2-5yrs (Some Lifetime). You will require An extra Apple Care to extend your basic
1yr guarantee which brings your price up to $4,048. Now my savings are $1048.. Go ahead, checkout the apple stores prices and compare the hardware
you get with a Mac Pro to the same hardware from you can buy at any other online Computer parts company.

Bottom Line: you just paid $1048 extra for nothing more than a name and logo.

Yes, OSX is a slick OS, but I'm a veteran Windows user and it suits my needs perfectly.
OSX is a slick OS, as I have said before. What you people fail to understand is that YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY OVER PRICED APPLE HARDWARE TO US IT. This is not an OSX/Windows Debate. This is a Cost/Performance/Hardware debate.

it would have cost about €70 a month nett to the company.
That's your situation. How many other people have their company fund their laptop purchase. Not everybody is in your situation.
Owain Glyndwr
well, duh, of course a computer you build yourself will be cheaper than one off the shelf. you don't need to be a rocket surgeon to figure than one out.
don_riina
This thread is as gay as people arguing about whether you should use vb or c# for fiddling about with .net gubbins. Should you pump out the db logic to a stored procedure or stick it in a class. Should you masturbate with your left or right hand.
All about personal preference really.
leeza
Frankly, I prefer the left, as it obviously gives superior performance. And it is a bit out of the mainstream, which is cool. And it just works.
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