hello...
i will be moving to munich in a few weeks from san francisco. just wanted to see if there are any interesting places, like art or small music spaces to go to. anything like the Prenzlauerberg or Kreutzberg districts in Berlin? (sorry if i misspelled those, still working on my german )
thanks...
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There's not much of cultural interest in Munich compared to Berlin. There's quite alot of stuff going on around the University though. Glockenbach is considered an 'artsy' neighbourhood, but good luck on finding anything but a few second rate galleries...
Don't quite know what you mean. Sorry, I'm ignorant. But what about Kandinsky (Lenbachhaus) - he did live in Munich after all. And the blues scene here - check Peter Krause's website. Jazz at Unterfahrt. Live music at Café Beethoven. The art scene was traditionally Schwabing and the esoteric scene Haidhausen. "Eine Welt-Haus" in the Schwanthalerstraße has multi-cultural events - i.e. African and Indonesian. Does that help?
The Hide Out has great live blues with an open jam session on Thursday nights
Twisted Bavarian hosts the Absolute Beginers Poetry Slam Gong Show Open Mic with poetry, music, comedy & magic. The 3rd Sunday of the month.
Twisted Bavarian hosts the Absolute Beginers Poetry Slam Gong Show Open Mic with poetry, music, comedy & magic. The 3rd Sunday of the month.
thanks for all the suggestions guys...
but i guess what i meant is, well for the lack of a better word, you know, more like indie music scene, or some good rock'n'roll, and i don't mean maroon 5 or something like that (sorry to the fans of the band)...you know, local bands, not just indie, i mean i am using it as general category, also glam, post-punk. and also local small art scene or fashion shows. there's got to be a design school in munich?? there is a lot of that in san francisco and berin, and although i am aware that munich is a bit more conservative, still there is got to be something besides main stream music and pretzels
but i guess what i meant is, well for the lack of a better word, you know, more like indie music scene, or some good rock'n'roll, and i don't mean maroon 5 or something like that (sorry to the fans of the band)...you know, local bands, not just indie, i mean i am using it as general category, also glam, post-punk. and also local small art scene or fashion shows. there's got to be a design school in munich?? there is a lot of that in san francisco and berin, and although i am aware that munich is a bit more conservative, still there is got to be something besides main stream music and pretzels
You would think so, wouldn't you?
No, of course there is indie and punk music in Munich. What there isn't, however, is a part of town which is particularly known for it, or for being arty at all really. As someone said before, Glockenbachviertel is as alternative as it gets in Munich. Which isn't very alternative at all really. Munich has more expensive and cheaper areas. Other than that, one part of town is much the same as the next IMHO
No, of course there is indie and punk music in Munich. What there isn't, however, is a part of town which is particularly known for it, or for being arty at all really. As someone said before, Glockenbachviertel is as alternative as it gets in Munich. Which isn't very alternative at all really. Munich has more expensive and cheaper areas. Other than that, one part of town is much the same as the next IMHO
As a long time resident of the Lower Haight, I can tell you that there is nothing even close to what you are looking for in Munich. Let me rephrase, Munich feels pretty much like the Marina District or Nob Hill - highly wealthy and gentrified.
Learn to love the train ride to Cologne or Berlin if you really want an indie scene.
Learn to love the train ride to Cologne or Berlin if you really want an indie scene.
Why come to Munich to look for what you have where you are? Surely you want to discover a new place, otherwise it's not worth moving. Munich gives you cheap access to the rest of Europe and you can explore all the different cultures. What more do you want?
Glockenbach (Hello again Worm! ) possibly Haidhausen.
Domackgstrassse (SP) in the north of the city near U-Bahn Alte Heide.
Sadly: as in all cities, the divide between cool funky neighbourhood and overpriced pretentious neighbourhood full of tourist wankers gets blurred.
(I've been living in Glockenbach 12 years so am a wee bit bitter )
Domackgstrassse (SP) in the north of the city near U-Bahn Alte Heide.
Sadly: as in all cities, the divide between cool funky neighbourhood and overpriced pretentious neighbourhood full of tourist wankers gets blurred.
(I've been living in Glockenbach 12 years so am a wee bit bitter )
What more do I want? Well, that was kind of the point of my original posting, you know about music and art scene. That would be nice to see! Just wondering if there is anything like it in Munich. What? Experience cultures in europe?? Access to other places for cheap?? I didn't know! No, that's not at all part of the reason i am going. I wasn't born in US so the cultures and experiences part i kind of get, thanks. And i'm not trying to transplant the cultural vibe of san francisco, just wanted to get the feel for the city and it's dynamics...
Just to give you more a feel of the Glockenbach:
It's an old working class area of Munich so it meant (until recently) that the rents were low-ish. This attracted in a lot of creative people doing stuff with music and theatre, spaces for art venisages etc too. This is in contrast to the jointly administered Gärtnerplatzviertel which from it conception had a very bourgeois feel.
Locally there a VERY large lesbian and gay community and that certainly is a big influence.
Just of the top of my head:
Kitchen and Registratur. Kind of alternaveish clubs in old council buildings no longer used. Some good acts and a different feel to more regular clubs If you keep your ear to the fround there are other one off unofficial parties happening locally.
2nd hand and new record specialist stores on Auen, Fraunhofer, Jahn and Colluseum Strasse
Altenative cinema / theatre on Fraunhoferstrasse. Arena cinema on Hans Sachs Strasse plays a slightly less commerical programme.
Bars like Die Bank and Excess on Jahn Strasse I forget the name of have changing DJs in playing their music and at Die Bank there are also arty things going on.
That's just the things that come immediately to mind within a 5 minute walk of my house.
The PROBLEM however is that here there is a vibrant commuity created and suddenly that gets attractive to those with money. There has been a massive influx of those with money into the area over the last few years, properties have become more expensive. The old Munich working class seems to be dying out or moving away meaning sadly an end to many of those tiny little boozy pubs where I leart my German. In their place and replacing old fashioned "mom and pop" stores are exclusive restaurants and bistros and shops selling expensive faashions and "lifestyle" accesoires.
I mentioned the Domackstrasse above, a DJ friend of mine has a studio out there.
But that might well be closed down as the drains are busted and the city is fighting with the federal government about who is responsible. Together with the 2 clubs I mentioned about and the the club complex at Ostbahnhof it is an example of how spaces are being used in Munich right now. As buildings are no longer needed for their primary purpose they are given a few years of life as "entertainment" venues.
But this is a short term thing. There is no investment made and sooner or later they close for major re-development as prime real estate.
The city IS planning a new cultural facility with bars and clubs etc in the far north of Munich but it will be artificcially created and not so accesable (even from the northern side of the city) without a MASSIVE improvement in public transport at night.
Oh and worth a mention is the Feierwork complex near Heimerannplatz.
It's an old working class area of Munich so it meant (until recently) that the rents were low-ish. This attracted in a lot of creative people doing stuff with music and theatre, spaces for art venisages etc too. This is in contrast to the jointly administered Gärtnerplatzviertel which from it conception had a very bourgeois feel.
Locally there a VERY large lesbian and gay community and that certainly is a big influence.
Just of the top of my head:
Kitchen and Registratur. Kind of alternaveish clubs in old council buildings no longer used. Some good acts and a different feel to more regular clubs If you keep your ear to the fround there are other one off unofficial parties happening locally.
2nd hand and new record specialist stores on Auen, Fraunhofer, Jahn and Colluseum Strasse
Altenative cinema / theatre on Fraunhoferstrasse. Arena cinema on Hans Sachs Strasse plays a slightly less commerical programme.
Bars like Die Bank and Excess on Jahn Strasse I forget the name of have changing DJs in playing their music and at Die Bank there are also arty things going on.
have changing DJs in playing their music and at Die Bank there are also arty things going on.That's just the things that come immediately to mind within a 5 minute walk of my house.
The PROBLEM however is that here there is a vibrant commuity created and suddenly that gets attractive to those with money. There has been a massive influx of those with money into the area over the last few years, properties have become more expensive. The old Munich working class seems to be dying out or moving away meaning sadly an end to many of those tiny little boozy pubs where I leart my German. In their place and replacing old fashioned "mom and pop" stores are exclusive restaurants and bistros and shops selling expensive faashions and "lifestyle" accesoires.
In their place and replacing old fashioned "mom and pop" stores are exclusive restaurants and bistros and shops selling expensive faashions and "lifestyle" accesoires.I mentioned the Domackstrasse above, a DJ friend of mine has a studio out there.
But that might well be closed down as the drains are busted and the city is fighting with the federal government about who is responsible. Together with the 2 clubs I mentioned about and the the club complex at Ostbahnhof it is an example of how spaces are being used in Munich right now. As buildings are no longer needed for their primary purpose they are given a few years of life as "entertainment" venues.
But this is a short term thing. There is no investment made and sooner or later they close for major re-development as prime real estate.
The city IS planning a new cultural facility with bars and clubs etc in the far north of Munich but it will be artificcially created and not so accesable (even from the northern side of the city) without a MASSIVE improvement in public transport at night.
Oh and worth a mention is the Feierwork complex near Heimerannplatz.
I live in the north and I can't wait for Kunstpark Nord. Although being centered around the new arena, it may not be what I hope for. As for public transport to it, the U6 goes right to its front doors. The first places are suppose to start opening this year with the rest being completed in time for WC 2006.
Kunstpark Nord will be good BUT they are going to need to run the U6 all night on a 15 minute headway to allow people to get home. Might possibly be OK if they turn the north-south main night bus (I forget the new number) into every 15 minutes.
Sorry to tell you this Katya but for the type of scene you're looking for, you can pretty much forget about it in Munich. Here the minute someplace opens and is a little bit different and successful, it translates as being "trendy" and is soon thereafter overrun by all the schicki-micki douchebags. Try Berlin instead. Unfortunately there is no equivalent of Kreuzberg or Penzlauer Berg in Munich.
Katya,
I know it's been a few months but I thought I would follow up on this a little bit. While there is no artsy/alternative district as such in Munich, there are some bars and clubs which may fit the mold for the types of places that I think you're looking for. Check out the following places:
Atomic Cafe
Feirwerk
Substanz
Pulverturm
Backstage
Cheers!
I know it's been a few months but I thought I would follow up on this a little bit. While there is no artsy/alternative district as such in Munich, there are some bars and clubs which may fit the mold for the types of places that I think you're looking for. Check out the following places:
Atomic Cafe
Feirwerk
Substanz
Pulverturm
Backstage
Cheers!
Westend seems to be pretty arty - local art exhibitions, poetry comps (ie at Stragula) etc. I guess for events just check out local event magazines like In Muenchen.
Schwabing 80798
Hi Katja!
In many senses Munich and the surrounding areas are leading the German Indie scene. Such bands as Slut, Notwist, Console and Sportfreunde Stiller are all products of the local scene. There is a recording studio about a half hour outside of Munich called Uphon Studio run by Mario Thaler, this studio has had Blur, Radiohead, Björk to name a few as guests. Local Music Manager Marc Liebscher is one of the top names in the Indie industry in Germany.
As for radio, the local music station M94.5 plays some of the best indie music I have heard………period. They also strongly support the local music scene with frequent interviews and spotlights of local bands.
As for the night life, there is already a posting with several indie clubs. Just to re-iterate.
Substanz - one of the centers of the local music scene and my personal favourite. Also international acts. Substanz has one quirk...All live music has to be finish by 10 PM. Nevertheless, quality of music is always top notch. http://www.substanz-muenchen.de/
Prager Frühling - Throw back from the 70's. Really cool local as well as international music. As it is a former strip joint, the stage is small and has a pole in the middle. Somewhat of a scene bar. http://www.popclub.info/
Atomic - Some people would argue the middle point of the Munich scene. All up and coming international bands go through here. Some local music, but not a lot. Some people consider it a little snobish and there is always a line to get in. http://www.atomic.de/
Backstage - Probably the largest indie club in Munich. With a hall and a club. In the summer there is a festival called "Free and Easy". Lots and lots of local bands on inside and outside stages. There is also an outside movie theatre that plays independent films. A little hard to get to, but worth it. http://www.backstage089.de/
Feierwerk - Three clubs. One for larger international acts (hansa 39), one for local and smaller international acts (orangehouse) and a cafe for artsy kind of music. Every Saturday Orangehouse has local live acts and the local DJs from M94.5 take over afterwards. Once again...a little more difficult to get to, but worth it. http://www.feierwerk.de/
Summer festivals are also a large part of the local culture. Two of Germany’s top indie oriented festivals are in or around munich.
Theatron - Lasts for an entire months with a large variety of music, but heavily in the independent direction. It takes place in Olympic Park. http://www.theatron.de/
Puch Festival - takes place about 45 minutes outside of munich on a farm (kind of like Woodstock). Always the up and coming of the german scene. No famous names. Very gemütlich, as the Germans say. Normally about 10,000 people show up. Get there early for a good place and bring a sleeping bag. http://www.puch-openair.de/
Well enough of my ramblings, I think Munich has an excellent and unique indie scene that I would put against almost any in the world (and I am originally from Athens, Ga.). As for where to live Glockenbach and Schlachthofviertel are the more alternative and indie areas. Schlachtforviertiel is walking distance to Substanz, Südstadt and Valentin Stüberl...all indie/artsy pubs. Hope this helps…..
Rock on.
Michael
www.thescovilles.com
In many senses Munich and the surrounding areas are leading the German Indie scene. Such bands as Slut, Notwist, Console and Sportfreunde Stiller are all products of the local scene. There is a recording studio about a half hour outside of Munich called Uphon Studio run by Mario Thaler, this studio has had Blur, Radiohead, Björk to name a few as guests. Local Music Manager Marc Liebscher is one of the top names in the Indie industry in Germany.
As for radio, the local music station M94.5 plays some of the best indie music I have heard………period. They also strongly support the local music scene with frequent interviews and spotlights of local bands.
As for the night life, there is already a posting with several indie clubs. Just to re-iterate.
Substanz - one of the centers of the local music scene and my personal favourite. Also international acts. Substanz has one quirk...All live music has to be finish by 10 PM. Nevertheless, quality of music is always top notch. http://www.substanz-muenchen.de/
Prager Frühling - Throw back from the 70's. Really cool local as well as international music. As it is a former strip joint, the stage is small and has a pole in the middle. Somewhat of a scene bar. http://www.popclub.info/
Atomic - Some people would argue the middle point of the Munich scene. All up and coming international bands go through here. Some local music, but not a lot. Some people consider it a little snobish and there is always a line to get in. http://www.atomic.de/
Backstage - Probably the largest indie club in Munich. With a hall and a club. In the summer there is a festival called "Free and Easy". Lots and lots of local bands on inside and outside stages. There is also an outside movie theatre that plays independent films. A little hard to get to, but worth it. http://www.backstage089.de/
Feierwerk - Three clubs. One for larger international acts (hansa 39), one for local and smaller international acts (orangehouse) and a cafe for artsy kind of music. Every Saturday Orangehouse has local live acts and the local DJs from M94.5 take over afterwards. Once again...a little more difficult to get to, but worth it. http://www.feierwerk.de/
Summer festivals are also a large part of the local culture. Two of Germany’s top indie oriented festivals are in or around munich.
Theatron - Lasts for an entire months with a large variety of music, but heavily in the independent direction. It takes place in Olympic Park. http://www.theatron.de/
Puch Festival - takes place about 45 minutes outside of munich on a farm (kind of like Woodstock). Always the up and coming of the german scene. No famous names. Very gemütlich, as the Germans say. Normally about 10,000 people show up. Get there early for a good place and bring a sleeping bag. http://www.puch-openair.de/
Well enough of my ramblings, I think Munich has an excellent and unique indie scene that I would put against almost any in the world (and I am originally from Athens, Ga.). As for where to live Glockenbach and Schlachthofviertel are the more alternative and indie areas. Schlachtforviertiel is walking distance to Substanz, Südstadt and Valentin Stüberl...all indie/artsy pubs. Hope this helps…..
Rock on.
Michael
www.thescovilles.com
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