Formula One 2009 season (F1 motor racing)

@pas

I imagine that Flavio stands a good chance of winning his blackmail case. Blackmail usually works better when the person you are blackmailing is guilty of something.

Appart from the young bumper car driver probably wouldn't find it too hard to show he was threatened into making his little bit of high speed parking.

But then apparently taking leather across your arse whilst being talked to in German in a dungeon is in now way at all possibly anything to do with Nazi rollplay. So all is possible with these people.

What does this do for the 08 season? Remember who was leading the race at the time of the crash? Felipe. He lost the WDC by a testicle's hair, if he had finished that race ahead of Lewis (which bar crash or failure he would of) he would now be WDC. If they scrap the race results for that particular race, then Lewis loses his WDC and it will go to Felipe, if they, as I fear, only drop Alonso's position promoting Rosberg to 1st, then Lewis remains WDC. Hugely unfair in my opinion. I now pronounce Felipe to be 2008 World Champion.

You can't predict what would really have happened though.

It does make you wonder how often this sort of things goes on. With Spygate it because clear they were caught when others were/at it. I wonder how many other little incidents there are still around.

But still, if you're German you're allowed to ram a competitor off the road to win a world title. I wonder what the telemetary showed on that one?

how about stopping the car just before the finish line during the qualifying and spoling someone's speed lap. Been there, seen that.

I know it can't be predicted what would happen, but this is a very unique case. I think the only fair option would be to have that result scrapped from the 2008 season.

Loads I reckon, I was reading up on this recently, and little sneaky cheats are very commonplace...these biguns aren't though


You Brits always harp on about that Schumacher / Hill incident...they're not even in the same ball park in terms of seriousness, let alone intent.

You're kidding , right? To take a competitor out when you would lose otherwise. How can that not be in the same ballpark?

But then we also have Prost and Senna and their clear taking out of each other.

It's hardly unprecedented in regards to a crash being on purpose. What does seem unusual is this one is a case where somebody was told to crash as a team tactic. Maybe worth going through Briatore's back catalog and seeing if there were any other cases.

Oh wait , here's one.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfby7GaMXmo[/media]

It's not in the same ballpark as that could easily be a racing incident occurring in the heat of the moment, that shit happens all the time. A pre-meditated team choreographed crash, which could have caused serious injury or death to driver(s), spectators & track officials is certainly not in the same ball park. I would question what planet you are on if it weren't for the fact that you are posting on TT, which I know is based on planet earth.

So you think it's beyond the bounds of possibility , totally not possible at all, no way whatsoever that these was a tactic that said , if you're in trouble make sure you take Hill out. No way, just not possible.

Again. Look at who the team leader was. Is it totally beyond the bounds of possibility that it could have never been used before as a tactic?

I never said that it was out of the bounds of possibility, but you are just speculating that that may be the case. To me, not speculating about the maybes, that Schumi / Hill incident looks like 1 of 100 similar motor racing incidents which occur all the time.

It's interesting that Damon Hill didn't exactly put much effort into not running into the side of Schumacher's car, otherwise we would have seen a locked wheel, these cars were ohne ABS

Well I consider it highly unlikely it's a one off. Really , in the middle of a season where they really had no chance and were only trying to save a little face magically at the point where Alonso was in a position to gain a lot from the crash they amazingly came up with this tactic.

These guys use computer simulations which are showing you pretty accuratly what is likely to happen and are planning strategies way in advance for all the races. You have to suspect it's been used before and they know exactly when to pull a fast one. I think it would be well worth looking at all past crashes where he was team leader.

I don't disagree with you that it doesn't happen, but remember, it's only cheating when you get caught.

Timmeh, Felipe Massa finished the race in 13th place do to a fuck up in the pit lane. Are you saying that fuck up wouldn't have happened if the crash and safety car hadn't happened and he'd therefore have won the race?

I would say that the pit mistake probably wouldn't happen, as he was under pressure to get out in front of all the other teams who all pitted under the safety car, under normal circumstances that most likely wouldn't have happened. Pure speculation of course.

Flavio with his 28 year old lingerie model bride on honeymoon last year: