Riding illegally on Deutsche Bahn (Schwarzfahren) - Germany

I bought a 'Dauer-Spezial' for the wrong date

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noratx
Hey!

I managed to do a bad thing.
I bought a "Dauer spezial" ticket for today, but the indended day to go is tomorrow, and DB don't give back money or change dauer spezial tickets (at leat not according to the DB service line).

My only excuse is "It was early in the morning and i was tired"...

I am not actually thinking of doing it, I will buy a new ticket tomorrow morning, BUT...
I would just like to know, what would I face if I were to enter the train with my ticket that had reserved seats for today?

I guess it wouldn't be as nice as on the U-bahn.. "40 euro fine and you can continue to your destination"?
If it were, I would actually gain from committing this illegal act.

So, do any of you know what could happend?

(And Again, No, I will not schwarzfahren. I just want to know what I would face IF i were to do it!)
robinson100
Don´t know what sort of fine you would face, but you would get one hell of a bashing from the TT crowd!!
noratx
Heh, I would get on hell of bashing from my own conscience too. Even if I decided not to "DO IT!" I would freak out and be too scared and buy the ticket anyway.
I mean, I have been cought one time on the u-bahn, just because of stress (I forgot to cancel the ticket before entering the train). I didn't realise untill it was too late (I am usually travelling tith a monthly ticket, but as I had been on vacation and only one day left of the month, I had a München XXL prepared), when struggeling to find the monthly ticket, I realiesd it and damn, I was affraid like a kid beeing caught by mom with the hand in the cookie jar.

So, no risk of being bashed by either the TT crowd or DB.. I just wanted to know what would happend IF i were to to it.
Small Town Boy
The €40 penalty only applies to the MVV region. Since you are allowed to buy tickets on long-distance trains, you would simply pay the full fare. I'm not sure if there is a surcharge for buying on board.
miwild
... you are allowed to buy tickets on long-distance trains ...
Only on ICE/IC/EC trains ...

Fahrkarten und Gültigkeit
BadDoggie
The standard DB fine is the highest fare for that particular train's endpoints, so if it was travelling from Rome to Hamburg, that's the route you'd be stuck paying for. Plus a fine for not having bought a ticket.

woof.
Hazza
They don't actually fine you on long distance DB trains, they make you buy a ticket, which is a few € more expensive than buying at the station. They won't charge you for the train's end-points, but ask you where you're travelling to and sell you the relevant ticket.

If you refuse to pay, then they call the cops who will escort you off the train at the next stop. Don't know what happens to you after that, because that's as far as I've observed.
noratx
Thank you for your answers. =)
Atleast I know now what I could have faced if I were to get on the train without a proper ticket.
I just wish that I had checked one more time before I confirmed on the machine.. well well, 31 euro lost, 59 more to pay tomorrow, But at least I get to see my friends and family again.. it was allmost half a year since the last time. =/
Gorgo
The standard DB fine is the highest fare for that particular train's endpoints, so if it was travelling from Rome to Hamburg, that's the route you'd be stuck paying for. Plus a fine for not having bought a ticket.
where did you get that from? You can simply buy a regular ticket for any route you want from the conductor in every IC/ICE/EC, that's perfectly ok. They even accept credit card. There is a small surcharge though (2 Eur I think).

It's different for the Regionalbahn (RB), they changed that last year I think, if you can't show a ticket it's 40 Euros now (+ ticket ?).
SquirrelKate
I don't understand why there can't be a conductor on the S Bahn. I wouldn't mind paying a small surcharge if I was able to buy a ticket on train. I often have to travel "Schwarz" because the ticket machine has been vandalised at the station. I know they say you're meant to jump out at the next station but *waves hand infront of face* I'm not stupid.
BadDoggie
They don't actually fine you on long distance DB trains
I read the question as "What could they do?" rather than "What would they probably do?" and gave the worst case scenario.
where did you get that from? You can simply buy a regular ticket for any route you want from the conductor
If there's a conductor. Which there may not be. Without announcement DB removed conductors and on-board purchases from many sub-200km trains, something I only found out about as I arrived in Regensburg. Where did I get my info from? DB, natch. I actually went and asked someone what the maximum penalties were.
I don't understand why there can't be a conductor on the S Bahn.
What the fuck for? Paying out additional annual salaries for some mooks to sit in each and every bloody S-Bahn in case someone got to the station too late to buy a ticket and can't wait another 10-30 minutes for the next one?

woof.
Bell the cat
The standard DB fine is the highest fare for that particular train's endpoints, so if it was travelling from Rome to Hamburg, that's the route you'd be stuck paying for. Plus a fine for not having bought a ticket.

woof.
this is correct. As far as DB is concerned you would have no valid ticket and the guard would have to issue you with a ticket on the train. The rules are that this ticket has to be full fair plus the appropriate small markup for a guard-issued ticket.

You will ALWAYS be controlled for this so it is in your best interest to buy a new ticket before boarding the train.
Bell the cat
i should add that even on short-distance RB trains that do not have guards they do regulaly do spot checks. Really not worth chancing it.
Allershausen
I don't understand why there can't be a conductor on the S Bahn. I wouldn't mind paying a small surcharge if I was able to buy a ticket on train. I often have to travel "Schwarz" because the ticket machine has been vandalised at the station. I know they say you're meant to jump out at the next station but *waves hand infront of face* I'm not stupid.
I can't help thinking that putting machines on the S-Bahn trains would be better, same as the Munich buses. Less likely to be vandalised and the other passengers might be able to help out with change.
I recently accidently got on one of the Arriva regional trains from Freising without a ticket and was able to buy one on the train. I sought the guy out though, I didn't wait for him to catch me.
(In case you're wondering how I got on accidently without a ticket, I have a permanent weekend ticket like this, this was a Tuesday and I'm so used to just getting on the trains I clean forgot it was a weekday! )
812am
I try to look at it as a contest. It's a fun game that I play where I ride with no ticket and try to avoid checkers. I've managed to see them coming often and just get off the train.
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