HollyGolightly
Jan 5 2005, 7:30 pm
Ok...so maybe Im just in a crappy mood but today I have seen ALL of the things that bug the shit out of me when Im on the train. You might agree or disagree but just had to vent
1. There are four seats and I am sitting in one. You come and sitt either A. directly across from me or B. right next to me. Why? This really ticks me off when there is no one else on the train, yet you have decided to sitt on my lap.
2. Eating. I know this sounds stupid (and yes I have done this before) but its more than eating...its like inhaling! It drives me nuts. I once had a man sitting directly across from me finish three of those Royals and two large fries within my 20 minute ride. Again...I know it sounds horrible...but its a problem with me.
3. Blowing your nose obnoxiously. Again...open to interpretation...but I had a man pull out a hanky and then lean towards me and blow his nose like an elephant. Sexy? Um...no.
4. I group the last set together as they might irritate me or make me laugh...depending on what mood Im in...making out (Im talking hot and heavy), drinking beer/drunks spilling beer everywhere (this is usually the last train of the night), when people play with their ringers of their cell phones the entire train ride, and last but not least when the schools get out and you have suddenly found yourself back in your highschool gym with people sitting on the floor EVERYWHERE, flirting, throwing things, and yelling to their friends that happen to be five cars back.
I realzie me making this list may make me the biggest *itch on TT...but like I said Im in a really crappy mood.
interplanetjanet
Jan 5 2005, 7:37 pm
Making that list hardly makes you the biggest bitch on TT. Just a bit of a grumpy one today.

One of my major pet peeves is the selfish person who sits on a crowded train (or worse yet, bus, where there's not as much freedom of movement) on the outermost seat to ensure that they get the bench to themselves longer than anyone else, because very few will bother to try to get past them.
Kings Town
Jan 5 2005, 7:47 pm
Yes, but they are the easiest to get revenge with and annoy... just tell 'em you wanna sit in that gaping space next to them
interplanetjanet
Jan 5 2005, 7:50 pm
True, so true. It's also fun to annoy the starers by staring longer and the que-jumpers by jumping in front of them.
acockreland2balls
Jan 5 2005, 9:15 pm
i think you have quite normal MVV/DB grievances ...unfortunately, you have to fight what you consider anti-social behaviour with anti-social behaviour in munich ...albeit in passsive mode so that you don't cause a scuffle or get arrested !
examples ...? well, it's easy for me to say as i can be a pig of a man when i wish to be ... so a bit of espostulating or falling asleep with weird snoring usually normally clears the immediate vacinity unless you have some seriously w++kered dude who's too far gone to notice or even care. sometimes the only resort for a bit of peace and quiet is to move :-)
i commute for over 2 hours a day (round trip) and all i want to do is have a bit of 'freiraum' to read and chill and may be chat to a work colleague or random on the same sbahn ..however, i quite often stand to avoid a. flu victims b. konflikt c. to keep my karma :-)
jiveman
Jan 6 2005, 11:09 am
QUOTE (acockreland2balls @ Jan 5 2005, 09:15 PM)
i commute for over 2 hours a day (round trip) and all i want to do is have a bit of 'freiraum' to read and chill and may be chat to a work colleague or random on the same sbahn ..however, i quite often stand to avoid a. flu victims b. konflikt c. to keep my karma :-)
I Know exactly what you mean...i travel allot to, to work and back, and usually, the U-bahn is pretty empty when i go to work (it's about 5:00 in the morning...) i allways pick one empty four-seater and put my bag next to me. and always, and i do mean allways, someone chooses not to seat in the many other four-seaters that are empty, but just where i put my bag. i swear to god, at that moment i can kill than man...
but on the other hand, look on the bright side...i've just been to berlin, and the
U-Bahn there is absolutelt horrific, ithe zugs there are far smaller than the ones here, far dirtier (graffiti everywhere), and you can't get a ride without some annoying type breaking into song in for a handout...and he won't shutup until he's given something...
compared to that, munich's mvg and the
MVV are still heaven...
Carm
Jan 6 2005, 12:04 pm
My peeve with the Ubahn, Sbahn and bus, is how everyone stands infront of the doors on the platform, not allowing you to get out, and then they try to push in. That pisses me off, now I just push through with elbows high.
On the street car, I have the peeve of all the school kids with their rucksacks full of books, and they never take them off their back, they run up and down the aisles and knock you in the head.
But I know that thing were there is nobody else in the car, and someone sits right beside you, usually with bad breathe too (I am super sensitive to that ), so I now get up and move! And then sit in the middle of the seat, so nobody can join me.
Carm
Jan 6 2005, 12:05 pm
@N33- I don't think you are a bitch! You just need to vent once in a while, we all do!
Topsy
Jan 6 2005, 12:08 pm
The thing that annoys me the most is that people don't stand up when old ladies (or similar) get on the S-Bahn. Or the other day the escalator wasn't working in the station and this old lady was struggling down the steps clinging on to the bannister, and this youth was stood leaning against the bannister, fag in hand, with no intention of getting out of the way.
I just tell them to get up, budge or whatever, and they do, usually - not like in UK where you'd probably get punched for telling them off.
Bridget Jones
Jan 6 2005, 12:09 pm
QUOTE (Nicole33 @ Jan 5 2005, 07:30 PM)
3. Blowing your nose obnoxiously. Again...open to interpretation...but I had a man pull out a hanky and then lean towards me and blow his nose like an elephant. Sexy? Um...no.
Germans are very big on blowing their noses like elephants in public. I actually knew I guy who did it as a nervous habit ... he'd pull this snotty, used paper hanky out of his pocket and have a major blow into it every couple of minutes. It was pretty disgusting, and a major turn-off.
willy
Jan 6 2005, 12:51 pm
Women who apply make-up on the train/bus ... I'm not implying touching up the lips here/there, but starting from square one ... eye lasing curling and all.
Oh yeah, Japanese women are serious victims of this crime ...
Why can't these violating women be born beautiful???
I dont actually find any of the transport here bad, London is much worse for wierdos and annoyances.
Keydeck
Jan 6 2005, 2:00 pm
Here's my original take on the general subject.
Passenger impoliteness on the Munich U-BahnQUOTE
In my humble opinion, Munich has a wonderful public transport system. You’ve got U-Bahns, S-Bahns, Trams & Buses aplenty. It’s efficient, clean, relatively cheap and basically it gets the job done with little or no fuss. If only I could say something similar for the herds of muppets using it every day. Specifically I’m talking about the people on the
U-Bahn and what happens when the train pulls into one of the busier stations like
Hauptbahnhof,
Karlsplatz or
Marienplatz. I am trying to be fair about this and so I’ve grouped the different types of muppet together so that they are not all tarred with the same brush (or ultimately when the day of reckoning comes, beaten with the same bat!).
1. "Hebeldepp(in)" This is the guy or girl who has a compulsion to be standing directly in front of the doors pressing the levers to open before the train has even pulled into the station. They seem to be terrified of two possibilities. One, that the train might leave the station again before they have a chance to get out or two, that God forbid someone might actually get out of the train before them. Quite often this person is also a „Rotwilddepp(in)“ but we’ll get to that later.
Dangeross
Jan 6 2005, 2:06 pm
The thing that used to annoy me so much is when someone (Usually a mumbling old lady) would walk down the whole length of the carrage slaming all of the windows shut. This is especially bad in the summer when its like 35 degrees and everyone is sweating their asses off.
Guess it doesn't so much nowadays with the newer air conditioned trains.
Topsy
Jan 6 2005, 2:20 pm
@ dangeross - you know those draughts can play havoc with your arthritis.
I can see from your profile you're still just a slip of a lad, you won't know about these things yet, but the day will come...
Inflatablewoman
Jan 6 2005, 2:24 pm
QUOTE (Nicole33 @ Jan 5 2005, 07:30 PM)
You should never ride on the
S-Bahn with me. I am guilty of all of those, and worse. One drunken night, inbetween Michealibad and Quiddiestr on the U5, I urinated in the little flip flop rubbish bin. I was bursting and a little drunk. It has a whole in the bottom and wee ran up and down the middle of the carriage. So if your wondering why the carriage flooring is sticky when you get on. Now you know, you're probably walking in wee.
HollyGolightly
Jan 6 2005, 4:05 pm
@ IW
really? I mean...really??

ewwwwwwwww!
Schotte
Jan 6 2005, 4:09 pm
"1. Hebeldepp"
Guilty. occassionally.
But have you noticed when you do this how it seems to annoy people and they make a real effort to squeeze out before you?
HollyGolightly
Jan 6 2005, 6:13 pm
. "Rotwilddepp(in)"
Like a deer caught in the headlights of an oncoming car these morons have a tendency to just stop directly in front of you. Usually they’ve just either stepped onto or off of the train and then they simply stop to have a look around, presumably before deciding which direction they need to go. Of course they are completely oblivious to the fact that there are people behind them trying to get past. This particular brand of muppet will also be often spotted at either end of an escalator doing exactly the same thing.
5. "Kontrolledepp(in)"
This one is reserved exclusively for the drivers. While they normally do their job properly and with some level of cop on, there are a few who seem to sit in their little compartments feeling like small Gods. They see someone sprinting down the stairs to get to the train and seem to go out of their way to close the doors just before the person makes it. The efficiency of the
U-Bahn system will not break down by just hanging on for a couple of seconds
These are actually my personal favorites of yours...Especially #5. I have had this happen to me twice. The second time I actaully had my hand on the little button for approx. ten seconds before the guy decided to leave me in the dust. Hahahahahaha...I could hear the evil laughter echoing through Solln
LeBronJames
Jan 6 2005, 6:14 pm
I'm a good boy, stand up all the time,
Inflatablewoman
Jan 6 2005, 9:21 pm
QUOTE (Nicole33 @ Jan 6 2005, 04:05 PM)
@ IW
really? I mean...really??

ewwwwwwwww!
Could I ever lie to you? [img]http://www.keithball.net/img/smileys/bootyshake.gif[/img]
HollyGolightly
Jan 7 2005, 12:03 am

thats the face I made when I read your post

thats what they make alley ways and trees for
MadGolfer
Jan 7 2005, 12:22 am
My Turn.
a) I am a big Guy, and what really pisses me off is on the newish trams you have Four seats on the Left and 2 Big Seats on the Right, 99 times out of ten you get a two stone dwarf sat in them.

On the planes, you get the two stone dawfs having to put there seat back when your knees are under your Chin already and just as the are dishing up the grub and drinks, so you cannot get your tray down.
Thats My Bit.
Happy New Year.
AquaticMeringue
Jan 7 2005, 10:05 am
QUOTE (Inflatablewoman @ Jan 6 2005, 02:24 PM)
One drunken night, inbetween Michealibad and Quiddiestr on the U5, I urinated in the little flip flop rubbish bin. I was bursting and a little drunk. It has a whole in the bottom and wee ran up and down the middle of the carriage. So if your wondering why the carriage flooring is sticky when you get on. Now you know, you're probably walking in wee.
That's pretty grim.
Some months back, AquaticMeringuette told me that me that a very ill-looking girl sat down opposite her on the S-Bahn, and suggested that she might want to move. So AquaticMeringuette moved to the next set of seats over, and a few seconds later the girl pulled open the little flop-flop rubbish bin and filled it with vomit. Apparently she remained on the
S-Bahn for several more stops (as did the bloke next to her who sat there obliviously), so presumably there wasn't a hole in the bottom of that one.
Either way, I don't envy the person who has to clean those bins. I've only ever thrown up once on the U-Bahn, but I was so drunk I don't remember it (and I got carried off at the next stop anyway). I'm pretty sure I didn't use the bin though.
Colin
Jan 12 2005, 2:34 pm
Hi,
hmmm... I find it really strange when foreigner complaining.
If you really don't like to live in Germany then go back to the States
were u get u massive trains were the passenger can read your mind,
do not disturb u and let you have your 'Freiraum'.
I don't travel to the States and expect that THEY change the life
for me to make me feel comfortable in ALL SITUATIONS.
Cheers, Colin.
anabi
Jan 12 2005, 2:47 pm
As to the folks getting seriously hot 'n heavy... on one hand I'm glad folks are in love/lust whatever and are into each other and don't mind some PDA...
But then there are times those folks with the sloppy, loud kisses can be a little much... it's almost like they're showing off. I mean if you're that horny either you should have stayed in bed and F'd or wait a few minutes until you get home and get it on!
I've thought next time I see folks doing that I'll assume they want the public to see them getting it on and pull out my camera phone and start the video recorder (maybe tell them okay let's see some good action!)... that ought to be interesting!
More tea, Vicar?
Jan 12 2005, 3:40 pm
@Anabi
Totally agree. Love is good, its our friend. But sucking faces should remain strictly a private pastime. Maybe its a Catholic cultural thing? In places like Spain and Italy people get quite hot with each other around town becuase they can't do it at home where the folks might catch 'em.
A German lass tried to snog me in a cable car in Hintertux last year with loads of Russians looking on. I was absolutely mortified and went home.
Luap
Feb 11 2005, 11:51 am
Haha, even though this is old I have to add mine (which was previously already noted).
People barging into the fucking train before I, or anyone else can get off. It's like they have a phobia of not getting in the train first in order to get a seat (what would that phobia be called).
Happened to me the other day, I was waiting to get off the
S-Bahn, door's open, 4 fucking idiots barge in the door at once, not only stopping every one else from getting out but also getting in eachothers way.
I laughed inside and barged right through the middle of them with force, knocking them all back outside and into complaining mood, one of them kinda shoved back at me with his hips (?? wtf?) and that made me laugh. One of them said "MAI BURSCHE!", so I gave him lip about letting other people off first and them being scared of not getting a seat at all.
Fuckers.
grtho
Feb 11 2005, 12:05 pm
Those EVIL EVIL EVIL grannies who will SPRINT down the platform to get the train and violently HACK their way through the crowd but the minute they are on board demand a seat.
The STUPID YUPPIE WANKERS who think it's OK to wander roung Hbf in the rush hour with an OPEN cup of hot coffee.
Yeti
Feb 11 2005, 12:08 pm
Scenario: Only one seat free in the whole
MVV system and some guy has his bag on it.
You ask them to move it, politely and they look at you as if you have just insulted their family back through 7 generations.
Once I thanked a guy really loud about 4 times after this which put me in a good mood for the day.
Showem
Feb 11 2005, 12:31 pm
When there's a bag on the seat, I usually ask in German, "May I sit here?" with a certain tone that says "I'm sitting here whether you like it or not buddy, so I suggest you move your bag before I crush it." Always works.
Yeti
Feb 11 2005, 12:36 pm
Well the question is of course purely rhetorical as I'm usually already in landing on the seat mode. Maybe I'm just annoyed by the "good lord, somebody want's to sit on my bag's seat" look.
boomtown_rat
Feb 11 2005, 12:36 pm
why is it a common thing in many countries that (most) buses have rows of two seats - all facing forwards, but U Bahns have four seats facing each other. Never understood that really
Showem
Feb 11 2005, 12:39 pm
Buses here have groups of 4 too. Don't know what you're on about.
Malcolm Spudbury
Feb 11 2005, 12:49 pm
@boomtown_rat: it's so the
U-Bahn carriage can be used in both directions without all the passengers sitting with their backs to the direction of travel.
boomtown_rat
Feb 11 2005, 12:56 pm
good point Malc
boomtown_rat
Feb 11 2005, 12:57 pm
QUOTE (showem @ Feb 11 2005, 12:39 PM)
Buses here have groups of 4 too. Don't know what you're on about.
only about one set per bus though isn't it.
mrhay
Feb 11 2005, 1:01 pm
Question.
Why do the S Bahns honk their horns when entering a station in the tunnel? Its bloody annoying.
grtho
Feb 11 2005, 1:07 pm
MrHay
Becasue of the re-introduction of central door closing prompted by the platform staff in the cabins to get the dwell time in the
S-Bahn tunnel down to 30 seconds to support the increase in frequency.
The horn is used to warn platform staff that the next train is coming in.
Railway regulations specify the sound at which horns have to be used.
It sounds loud yes but it is not dangerous for your health.
DB are looking for alternatives.
Propellor Head
Feb 11 2005, 1:26 pm
See above for 50-plus good reasons why I commute by car.
grtho
Feb 11 2005, 1:44 pm
See yesterday's Süddeutschezeitung or the thread on here as to why Munich City Council might be banning car journeys or introducing (hopefully) hefty road use charges real soon!
Propellor Head
Feb 11 2005, 1:52 pm
In this case, I think working from home is the way forward.
Marty
Feb 11 2005, 4:37 pm
QUOTE (grtho @ Feb 11 2005, 01:07 PM)
The horn is used to warn platform staff that the next train is coming in.
Railway regulations specify the sound at which horns have to be used.
It sounds loud yes but it is not dangerous for your health.
DB are looking for alternatives.
I've heard on the radio today that they will stop it, because too many have complained about it.
grtho
Feb 11 2005, 4:48 pm
Yes Marty, maybe a light or something in the despatchers cabin pronpted by the train approaching the station, fairly easy to wire up.
The regulations that make the horns so loud are there so train horns are effective about warning of danger, not passing an admin message.
HollyGolightly
Mar 4 2005, 11:07 am
So again...I have to pull this thread up. It has been the worst week for Sbahns I think everyone here can agree. I have two questions
1. Is it just my train that decided it would not work in cold weather...or did everyone else in Munich deal with the same crap all week?
2. They knew that this city gets cold when they made them...WHY DO THEY STOP RUNNING??? I lived in Chicago for two years and while the trains there pretty bad they never just STOPPED RUNNING.
Sorry its been a bad week for this. Getting stuck places always sucks.
Speaking of U-Bahns...
Does anyone know what was going on at the
Hauptbahnhof this morning?
There were loads of police decending on the station this morning (not sure who they were after) and the U-Bahn security guards were cordoning off parts of the platforms and checking IDs of people coming down the escalator (presumably trying to catch whoever they were after).
HollyGolightly
Mar 4 2005, 11:35 am
Not sure...but I have had that happen to me on a train once pretty late at night...checking everyones IDs...very creepy
Darkknight
Mar 4 2005, 12:53 pm
Nope.. ALL S-bahns have been f--kedup for the last 2 weeks, in one way or another. Saw a story in the paper about how it took some people
3hrs to get from erding to Donnersbergerbruke... (Normally takes 45min)
yomama
Mar 8 2005, 2:26 am
Normally it doesn't have -17°C this time of the year. Actually such temperatures are the exception for the whole of winter.
Darkknight
Mar 8 2005, 10:15 am
And whos fault is it that MVV/DB bought brand new trains (Spending many Millions of Eur) who breakdown at the first sight of snow/cold weather...
Not to mention the NEW signaling system that also does this..
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