Types of modems sent to Alice DSL users

Thinking of getting internet with Alice-Dsl, but cant seem to find any information on the site about which model modem they send users. Anyone know? Is it also true that you need to pay an extra 30 euros to get one that is wireless capable?

I currently own a Fritz-Box 7050, and am wondering if I will be able to use that instead of the modem Alice sends. Or at the very least plug it into the new modem so i can piggyback the wireless off that?

Thanks for any replies!

Hi,

Yes, you have to pay €30 extra for a wireless modem. They send a Alice IAD 5130 modem for free but charge you €20 for the network card so you will need to tell then that you don't want this if you want to save €20. I've had the service (telephone and DSL) for about a month now and am a pretty heavy user as I work from home and so far everything has been fine. The connection speed is about 6MB, which is slower than the advertised 16Mb but still fast enough. The connection has dropped about 3 times in the last month but this may be due to Net Cologne installing fibre optic cables in the area as they were messing around in the cellar. I've only had to call the Alice Support twice and had no problems getting through or having my issue resolved so I would recommend Alice to anyone who doesn't want to sign-up for a 2 year contract.

I'm not too sure about using a Fritz box but the PC and telephone plug into the Alice router and then this plugs into the telephone socket in the wall so you can check whether this will work in your current setup. It's also worth noting that they use cross-over cables to connect the PC to the router rather than the 'normal' network cables. I'm not sure if this is the case with all routers here in DE or just with the router Alice provided. I bought a couple of cheap network cables in the UK before coming here and couldn't work out why I was having problems until I checked the cable that Alice provided and found out it's a cross-over cable.

depends on where you live and what u order...u might get a true ISDN or the NGN one (everything is over DSL connected incl. telephone). if it's ISDN one there u'd need ISDN telephone hardware...well usually people already got their house on ISDN. If this is a new installation and u arent changing providers, then u might have ordered the NGN one, it means all over one IAD box...and it sucks, cause u cant replace it with other hardware (mainly cause the box sucks hehe)...if u did order ISDN, then u'd only get a DSL Modem from Siemens, the famous C2-I-01 Modem.

No dependencies whatsoever - the Fritzbox 7050 will work (very!) fine on any Hansanet/Alice ADSL connection. If you already have it then there is no need for any additional hardware. You just need to programme it with your username (usually your phone number) and your password provided by Alice.

nope, i forgot what was it, but with the NGN conn, u cant replace the IAD, cause it's already configured for your conn line and using other HW wont work...if it wasnt so, then no one would complain bout it on the forums, which i am also a member of, for example onlinekosten.de

For a good overview (in German) of the types of line provided by Alice, see this post on IP-Phone-Forum, which also gives some tips to try and work out in advance what flavour of line you'll get.

Basically

• if you get the Alice line with a real landline then you can easily use any modem/router (I have this and currently run a Fritz 7170 on it)
• if you get one of the other Alice lines (with phone over VOIP) then you can theoretically use any modem/router, but without the super secret settings and username/password for the VOIP (and second DSL connection used for VOIP) then you won't be able to correctly configure it to make/receive phone calls using the Alice network (and Alice prices) - normal DSL for the internet or VOIP from other providers is however no problem, so if you're on one of the decoupled Alice options (without phone line e..g Alice Light) then this means that it's no problem to use the 7050.
  Unfortunately, no-one has yet worked out how to work out the username/password for Alice VOIP without making an irreversible hardware modification to the kit supplied by Alice (which strictly speaking remains their property), and Alice seems to actively try and block this by changing their settings, even if you do get it to work. The best option in this case if you really need some feature of your own modem/router is to stick it behind the hardware supplied by Alice (i.e. use the Alice hardware as a modem and your hardware as a router/WLAN access point connected to the Alice hardware via a LAN port).
  In the case of the 7050 this would mean plugging the phone/ISDN wire from the 7050 into the phone/ISDN socket on the Alice hardware and a LAN cable from LAN A on the 7050 to the LAN socket in the Alice modem and then configuring the 7050 to use Internet over LAN A (note that this means that you then only have one LAN port for your internal network) and you will also possibly need to configure PPPoE so that the 7050 knows how to get the modem to connect.
• if you're on a resale line (unlikely) then you actually still have a T-com landline, although you pay T-com prices for anything going over this, and phone services from Alice run over VOIP and so are subject to the same problems.

So, as YL6 said, the 7050 will work on an Alice line, but, as Silvestre tried to say, you may have problems with the telephony part.

Is that what he tried to say?

not entirely correct, the problem is more on the connection socket and furthermore to alice network area haha but i think most people understand what he meant, other than our Lad here

Maybe we should run a poll...