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Salvia Divinorum, a powerful legal hallucinogen

Naturally occurring plant that grows in Mexico

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Bipa
I've just heard about this stuff, and it seems to be getting popular in Canada, where it is legal. I suppose it will eventually get on the banned drugs list, but for now it is being openly and legally sold in corner stores. Has it hit Germany yet?

Salvia: Freaky, legal

QUOTE (Toronto Sun Newspaper @ Sep 14 2008)
Salvia divinorum is a naturally occurring plant grown in the Sierra Mazateca region of Mexico. Mazatec natives have used the plant for centuries in ritual healing ceremonies and vision quests but it's now heading north and into the hands of people looking for a legal high.

Most users light the leaves in a glass pipe and inhale the smoke, producing a high that lasts for up to 20 minutes, generally including strong hallucinations.

"There's so little information out there about salvia," Dr. Kavita Babu, a professor in medical toxicology at Brown University in Providence, R.I., told the Sunday Sun.

Babu is one of the authors of a study released earlier this year on salvia seeking to raise physician awareness of the drug.

"Gram for gram, it's one of the most powerful naturally occurring hallucinogens out there," Babu said.

Her biggest concern is that there is no knowledge of the long-term effects of salvia use.

"We have a lot to learn about salvia and what concerns me is that something we know so little about is unregulated," Babu warns.

"Even though there may be no documented fatalities or injuries, it may be going unnoticed."

And because it is legal, salvia's popularity is growing.
MonksTown
It is quite popular in the UK, I have heard.
Less widely available than illegal drugs though.
lilplatinum
Unless miracles in cross breeding plants have occured, my memories from my college days inform me that this stuff is crap.
Pirulero
Ditto...up there with banana skins...
Corcaigh
Salvia divinorum (Wikipedia)
RocketGirl
uh-uh. this stuff is proper crazy. i think it's sold in different strengths, i'm not sure, been a long time. but it's a full on trip if smoked, although lasting less time. be very very careful with it..
lilplatinum
Maybe someone laced yours with a real drug, i've never heard any stories that weren't from 'this guy my friend knows' about this crap working.
Pirulero
Ditto...up there with banana skins...
thefirelane
QUOTE (lilplatinum @ Sep 17 2008, 12:09 pm) *
Maybe someone laced yours with a real drug, i've never heard any stories that weren't from 'this guy my friend knows' about this crap working.

Nope, I saw a report on CNN, it's actually one of the strongest natural hallucinogens known, and it's now sold in 100x concentration. It has become a bit of an Internet sensation lately, since the highs last about 5 minutes, and so does a Youtube clip... marrying the two in perfect comedic harmony.
lilplatinum
Fox and several other mainstream media places reported that kids were huffing 'fermented feces' to get high, it didn't make it true.
thefirelane
Agreed, the report didn't make it true... know what would have? Videos of kids doing it, doctors discussing the effects, websites selling the stuff for consumption, and the be-all-end-all of information... wikipedia saying it is so.
Owain Glyndwr
this stuff is illegal here in Germany.
worm
I bought some as a teenager and didnt get anything at all off it, apart from a tickly cough
marie-claire
Salvia - isn't that sage? I have plenty of it in my garden this year.
lilplatinum
QUOTE (thefirelane @ Sep 17 2008, 1:02 pm) *
Agreed, the report didn't make it true... know what would have? Videos of kids doing it, doctors discussing the effects, websites selling the stuff for consumption, and the be-all-end-all of information... wikipedia saying it is so.

Yes but I have Anecdotal evidence, obviously highest form of credibility, damnit!

I guess concentrated high enough the stuff must do something, but the dozen or so people i've known who tried it all reported nothing from it other than the effects of the pot they mixed it with. Shame if we were doing it wrong, it wasn't tasty consuming peytoe plants... Ahhh college..
don_riina
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this stuff is illegal here in Germany.

Everything is bloody illegal in Germany; mowing your lawn, washing your car, putting down wooden decking in the garden without informing the council so they can tax you for it...the list goes on. Anything with any vague link to the word "hallucinogen" is BOUND to get stopped.
Owain Glyndwr
QUOTE (marie-claire @ Sep 17 2008, 1:26 pm) *
Salvia - isn't that sage? I have plenty of it in my garden this year.

salvia is the genus which also includes sage. salvia divinorum is not sage, though.
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